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alpha

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's super impressive. There's still parts that look off and parts that look worse than the original. But it's crazy how nice it looks being made by such a smaller team.
 
Dec 11, 2017
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That's his award ceremony outfit from the end of a new hope minus the yellow jacket, I believe. Marvel resurrected it for the new Star Wars comics.
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You are 100% correct.
 

DrBo42

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Oct 25, 2017
3,760
Struggling to understand how anyone in here could think Corridor's is worse. Original is like a CG game cinematic.
 

Xun

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Oct 25, 2017
4,316
London
I like CD, but these guys always talk the big talk when it comes to creating deepfakes, and their results always look fucked up in some way.


edit: I cannot believe people are actually arguing this is better than what is in the show.
This.

It's impressive for the amount of crew working on it, but it just looks bad to me.
 

Soupman Prime

The Fallen
Nov 8, 2017
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Boston, MA
Lol what. I was gonna believe it till I watched. What we actually got wasn't great and of course noticeable but this just looked worse. Like we got PS4 graphics and this one they did was PS2.
 

Jedi2016

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Oct 27, 2017
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Looks fake still.

This one looks much better imo


See, that one just pisses me off because they're starting from the work that Disney already did, so it's already 90% of the way there. Let them try it on the original actor and see how good it looks.

There's a reason Hollywood doesn't use deepfake tech. I don't even know what it is, but there has to be one, or they'd be using it. VFX artists aren't stupid, you know.
 

PaulloDEC

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Oct 25, 2017
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Struggling to understand how anyone in here could think Corridor's is worse. Original is like a CG game cinematic.

The problem is that a lot of people are unable to think more deeply than "this one good, this one bad". Both versions have pros and cons.

There's a reason Hollywood doesn't use deepfake tech. I don't even know what it is, but there has to be one, or they'd be using it. VFX artists aren't stupid, you know.

Disney's version is in all likelihood using a similar process.
 

DrBo42

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Oct 25, 2017
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The new one looks like an in game cinematic, the old one never struck me as looking like a game.
Disney version's face barely moves. It moves like it's bad keyframe animation. On a technical level, the corridor version is entirely better. Movement of face, lighting, eyes that aren't dead. But they have a terrible actor performance and wig. It's not something you could use to replace it for the production but as a proof of concept they succeeded in making a better version.
 

squeakywheel

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Oct 29, 2017
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I dunno. Some parts Disneys looked better in more still spots. I can see the VFX dude's face here more plus his neck is too skinny which doesn't seem like the computer accounted for. I guess I can't unsee the actor from digital Luke. But yeah considering the budget, they did a great job.
 

Cats

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Oct 27, 2017
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Looks fake still.

This one looks much better imo


This one is the best, followed by the official disney one, and the corridor version in a distant third. I'm also not a big Star Wars fan nor watch this show, just killing time on a sunday night.

The wig, some general composition mistakes, and going from underacting to overacting make their scene quite a bit inferior.
Don't make the mistake of me saying it's bad though. It's super impressive what they did and I think it would have received a much better impression if they hadn't been so arrogant in their video.
 

Starphanluke

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Nov 15, 2017
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That looks 800 times worse.

The actual one didn't look particularly great, but it served its purpose. I also think people severely underestimate how much the stoic face and general portrayal were a very deliberate character choice. That's how Luke is being protrayed post-RotJ.
 

CrocodileGrin

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Oct 27, 2017
3,154
Looks more like Hamill, but also looks more fake.
I think the YouTuber Shamook's attempt is still the best, although they are limited by having to use Disney's version as the basis.


It's definitely the best attempt. One lingering issue I had with Disney's take was when I found out what the stand in actor for Luke, actor Max Lloyd-Jones looked like, as I see more of him than Hamill in the face. At least this deepfake works and is layered/merged nicely, even though the mouth movement hints at it being a fake.

The Corridor Digital deepfake on the other hand has too many pros and cons going on to the point where I prefer the Disney attempt lol
 

DrBo42

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Oct 25, 2017
3,760
That looks 800 times worse.

The actual one didn't look particularly great, but it served its purpose. I also think people severely underestimate how much the stoic face and general portrayal were a very deliberate character choice. That's how Luke is being protrayed post-RotJ.
They went for Luke in Jabba's Palace kind of demeanor. But a face is still supposed to move like a human face. Disney failed in that aspect as well as lighting. Corridor's corrects those aspects but fails to recreate the intent.
 

Valus

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Nov 21, 2017
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Why didn't they just recast Luke? Are they scared of backlash? Are fans that rabid?
 

Sinatar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why didn't they just recast Luke? Are they scared of backlash? Are fans that rabid?

Why not create a new character altogether?

Star Wars dogged reliance on nostalgia is the worst thing about it. You've got this entire universe full of aliens and pseudo magical stuff yet all they do is keep rolling out the same old shit.
 

MeBecomingI

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Oct 27, 2017
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The deepfake version is still the best. This looks good at times, but it's mostly even more jarring and messy than the original.
 

Hogendaz85

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Dec 6, 2017
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Just finished watching that and man it looked bad and maybe just me but Luke's head looked a size too big
 

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The Corridor Digital version has higher highs than any other version, but enough lower lows that overall it isn't better than the original. There are individual shots in the scene where the CD version is much better, especially with regards to lighting and expressiveness.

On a side note, I've come to the conclusion that it's so easy to come across as arrogant on the internet. I know arrogant ppl IRL, and CD comes nowhere near that.
 

PaulloDEC

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Oct 25, 2017
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On a side note, I've come to the conclusion that it's so easy to come across as arrogant on the internet. I know arrogant ppl IRL, and CD comes nowhere near that.

I think it's mainly the title that has people riled up. Normally I'm not a great lover of clickbait titles, but Corridor do incredible stuff that deserves the clicks, so I can't really fault them.
 

oatmeal

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Oct 30, 2017
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If they're going to do anything, now or in the future, with Luke as a regular or main character, then this is a no-brainer. He's a hell of a lot closer to Mark Hamill than Alden Ehrenreich is to Harrison Ford.
That doesn't even matter anymore:

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erlim

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Oct 26, 2017
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I think it's mainly the title that has people riled up. Normally I'm not a great lover of clickbait titles, but Corridor do incredible stuff that deserves the clicks, so I can't really fault them.

honestly, corridor digital does tremendous work, their deep fake was extraordinary (even Mark Hamil loved it publicly on twitter.) it's worth the click; and I hope Disney throws them a Star Wars series! They are straight up better than ILM in the realm of VFX and truly underrated as a Sam-Niko directorial team.
 

Dan Thunder

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Nov 2, 2017
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honestly, corridor digital does tremendous work, their deep fake was extraordinary (even Mark Hamil loved it publicly on twitter.) it's worth the click; and I hope Disney throws them a Star Wars series! They are straight up better than ILM in the realm of VFX and truly underrated as a Sam-Niko directorial team.
Oh come on, that's not in any way true by a long, long margin.
 

PHOENIXZERO

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Oct 29, 2017
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They did their deep fake in days without anywhere near the resources of ILM obviously it wasn't perfect but it's still more impressive.

Sebastian stan sitting by his phone waiting patiently

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Yeah, he's not only been a fan favorite to do it for a long time now, it's also been a running joke for years that Mark Hamill is his father, Mark's even joked about it. It's also not another Harrison Ford/Ingruber fan casting issue since Sebastian Stan is an actual, established actor first and foremost who happens to bare a decent resemblance to Hamill that would also be way less jarring than the casting of Alden Ehrenreich as Han in a movie and story answering the questions that no one was interested in finding the answers to.
 
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Dan Thunder

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Nov 2, 2017
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They are really really stellar directors and it's pretty inevitable they get their big break sooner than later. The bear share of comments make it seem like most consider their work tops ILM in the vfx department.
They're good for a very small studio and I love their 'VFX artists react' series but nothing they've done comes anywhere near the level of Avengers, Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean, Star Wars or any other number of their projects.

GIF quality aside, this is the stuff they were doing 15 years ago!

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eZipsis

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Oct 25, 2017
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They are really really stellar directors and it's pretty inevitable they get their big break sooner than later. The bear share of comments make it seem like most consider their work tops ILM in the vfx department.
I love Corridor Digital and have been watching them for a very long time but no, they don't top ILM.
They are very talented, but they are still a small studio. Comparing a 20 second scene they devoted all theier energy to for 2 weeks to a 20 second scene from an 8 episode tv series is just silly.
I guarantee Niko wouldn't claim to be either. He knows they are very good, but ILM is a different league.
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
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honestly, corridor digital does tremendous work, their deep fake was extraordinary (even Mark Hamil loved it publicly on twitter.) it's worth the click; and I hope Disney throws them a Star Wars series! They are straight up better than ILM in the realm of VFX and truly underrated as a Sam-Niko directorial team.

lol

what an insane thing to say
 

Vonocourt

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Oct 25, 2017
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honestly, corridor digital does tremendous work, their deep fake was extraordinary (even Mark Hamil loved it publicly on twitter.) it's worth the click; and I hope Disney throws them a Star Wars series! They are straight up better than ILM in the realm of VFX and truly underrated as a Sam-Niko directorial team.
Do you mean Lucasfilm contracts them to work on shots for a Star Wars series, or Lucasfilm has them run the VFX work of an entire series?

Because the latter is a straight up nonsense for their company based on the size and previous work.
 

spineduke

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Oct 25, 2017
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CD don't have the capacity to keep up with the massive studio giants in terms of visual prowess - what they're good at is, being resourceful and spitting something out in a relatively short time. Most of their videos are exploring a new tool or technology that they've gotten their hands on. Any scrutiny and it falls apart pretty fast.