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Dad Joke Mafia |OT| I quit mafia to be a housekeeper, now I'm a maid man.
- Thread starter MrHedin
- Start date
I think I've hit a milestone. This might be the first time anyone has had that reaction to my post count.
For the record, they would lose to French Toast.
I'm a little sad at all the conjecture (probably) not panning out because that would've been damn fun to catch scum out on. Alas, I don't think it was meant to be.
I do have another small theory from reading something Launch posted....If I can dig it up here.
I think this is going to be my last post about godfather stuff for a while because I've yammered about it a bunch and really all I'm getting at is that I don't trust the check on Randomless/Vere still. I'm not saying they're scum, but if I were to townread them, it won't have anything to do with the check. So, re-reading today while I cram ham in my mouth, with the game design stuff in mind, and one of Launchpad's posts got me to thinking:
AND WAIT A MOMENT. This is a DAD Joke Mafia game. What bigger, badder dad is there than a godFATHER.
That seals it. No way scum don't have a godfather. Absolutely not. Hedin couldn't bear the shame of making a Dad Mafia game without that role, and if that has happened, it is a travesty of the highest order.
Launchpad being left alive makes me wonder if this is a simple case of godfather scum trying to bait out an investigate to clear their name, hence why Launchpad is alive. I can go into all kinds of WIFOM about this, and why Zipped went out when they did, but my theory would at least explain Launch still being here. Launch isn't only a threat for their cop check----they're a threat for being just about our only confirmed town core player at this point. Why leave that alive without specific reason? "Well, Launch would be an obvious Zipped protect." Launch would be an obvious protect N2 following the day he got Nat killed, and more than likely couldn't be protected a 2nd night in a row due to power restrictions. I would expect Launch to be wide open for a good murder N3 without Zipped to protect, so no, I don't think Zipped needs removed first before you take out Launch (if anyone were going to say that).
AND WAIT A MOMENT. This is a DAD Joke Mafia game. What bigger, badder dad is there than a godFATHER.
That seals it. No way scum don't have a godfather. Absolutely not. Hedin couldn't bear the shame of making a Dad Mafia game without that role, and if that has happened, it is a travesty of the highest order.
oh shit, it's Don Corleon isn't it. all the scum have been film dads and the town ones have been TV dads
I don't think that's a bad theory, honestly. Though, again, scum seems to think town PRs have more shots than make sense for this game. That would be more evidence towards this being a less experienced player.
I also think that the risk of leaving me alive to do that would maybe have been too high if I was actually suspicious of the player(s) in question. I've had Stanbulance as next up after EC since yesterday, so that might not be the person we're after, either.
Day 1
Pancakes was looking for a lot of approval on the bojack/EC vote but when it came to voting out LP, Pancakes was there and did not budge at all despite it being almost deadlocked until Launch broke it up. Puts forth EC is probably the best vote and sits it on despite it being a very close ED. Also barely any reaction to Kopite reveaing that he was a vig.
VA switches to EC without much fanfare then promptly leaves. Easy to latch onto a place without looking suspect?
Captain wasn't really here at EoD, not much to analyze.
Anex was also at EoD D1 but didn't feel content to move.
www.resetera.com
Randomless/Vere is at EoD says he will stay on Zipped but switch to LP if there is a risk of a tie. Seems a bit odd that he wouldn't take the free bus credit like Nat did on LP since he was there at ED. Makes me feel slightly better about Random/Vere.
Pancakes > VA > Anex > Captain > Random in terms of how I scum read after people D1 votes.
Pancakes / VA were giving me the same vibes of looking somewhere to vote that was not LP. EC is always an easy target.
Continued in the next post.
Pancakes was looking for a lot of approval on the bojack/EC vote but when it came to voting out LP, Pancakes was there and did not budge at all despite it being almost deadlocked until Launch broke it up. Puts forth EC is probably the best vote and sits it on despite it being a very close ED. Also barely any reaction to Kopite reveaing that he was a vig.
It's the best I have right now, and lord knows I've never been afraid of having D1 votes come back to bite me in the ass. So:
Did you all hear about the chameleon that couldn't change colors? He had a reptile dysfunction.
Vote: EvilChameleon
They're a vig, right? I only say because I thought those roles could be neutral. Don't call out my terrible Mafia knowledge!
VA switches to EC without much fanfare then promptly leaves. Easy to latch onto a place without looking suspect?
Captain wasn't really here at EoD, not much to analyze.
Anex was also at EoD D1 but didn't feel content to move.
Dad Joke Mafia |OT| I quit mafia to be a housekeeper, now I'm a maid man.
I'm gonna stay on Zipped but I'll switch to LP if there's a risk of a tie.
www.resetera.com
Randomless/Vere is at EoD says he will stay on Zipped but switch to LP if there is a risk of a tie. Seems a bit odd that he wouldn't take the free bus credit like Nat did on LP since he was there at ED. Makes me feel slightly better about Random/Vere.
Pancakes > VA > Anex > Captain > Random in terms of how I scum read after people D1 votes.
Pancakes / VA were giving me the same vibes of looking somewhere to vote that was not LP. EC is always an easy target.
Continued in the next post.
Anex is trying to pocket me right in broad daylight!
All right. I'm bad at calling things out directly....bad at confrontation sometimes....but I'll try my hand here.
I can read this two different ways. Genuine town concern that we're floundering or scum trying to plant a seed of doubt in town's mind that they're in a rough spot when they aren't. I think the only way scum wins at this point is for town to panic, lose hope, and fall apart. I think we have 1 scum left:
100% Town
VA
Launch
Neki
Most Likely Town
Pancakes
Could Be Scum
CaptainNuevo
Anex
Verelios
Stantastic
*Sidenote*
I could see CaptainNuevo as town based on their option to go nuclear, but what holds me back from giving that a "town" check is that when Launchpad said this:
I hate when I goof that up....Going to repost the last part:
*Sidenote*
I could see CaptainNuevo as town based on their option to go nuclear, but what holds me back from giving that a "town" check is that when Launchpad said this:
*End Sidenote*
*Sidenote*
I could see CaptainNuevo as town based on their option to go nuclear, but what holds me back from giving that a "town" check is that when Launchpad said this:
Captain dropped it too easily and didn't make 2nd mention of it at all. No "okie dokie" or "what about...." I don't know if Captain is that gutsy to offer their head as scum, but they were vague enough that they probably could've wormed out of their offer if everyone said yes.
*End Sidenote*
I don't think it means much for your overall breakdown, but I just want to comment that I wasn't here EoD1.
Day 2
Pancakes throws Donnie a town read despite being dead and flipping town. Seems like an easy way to look like you're engaging.
Pancakes comes into the thread, shading basically all the vote getters at EoD Day 1. Lone_Prodigy, Zipped, EC, Launchpand, Random and Captain. EC and Zipped are confirmed town at this point and I highly doubt Launch is scum so that leaves Random/Captain who had one vote each. Don't really like the comment, looks like a great comment because Nat is well protected within the LP train with no scrutinity on him.
CaptainNuevo comes into the day, doesn't really react to the LP flip or the Kopite claim. Thinks LP would be replaced instead of voted. Says Launch and Monkey are the strongest town reads.
Randomless claiming the LP wagon is clean (lol)
Both Random and Pancakes discussing Nat before his inevitable flip.
Anex comment about Natiko.
Captain and Vincent's reaction to Nat's death.
Randomless' reaction to Nat's death
Pancake's reaction to Nat's death.
Captain light defend on Randomless
Pancake looking to not vote off Randomless
Captain comes in and places a vote on Pancakes
Pancakes missing that Captain voted for her.
Captain puts out that he is willing to vote out Bojack and puts Randomless as his top town read.
Pancakes keeps asking people where they would like to vote
My vote would still be on Random says Pancakes, 5 minutes later Launch posts his read on Bojack
3 minutes later, Pancakes agrees with Launch.
Asks for the okay from Launch to switch to Bojack
Captain comes in and switches votes without any fanfare
Pancakes and VA agreeing to swing to Bojack.
Anex felt like a non presence at EoD. I feel much better about how Captain played EoD, he came into the day and put out some votes and then switched to Bojack without looking for approval. My town stock of him is high after re-reading D1 and D2. Anex is playing a much more reserved game and I'm not sure if I'm to scum read him for it.
Pancakes > VA > Randomless/Vere > Anex > Captain in terms of scum reads.
The way Pancakes played D1 and D2 EoD is such a stark contrast, it is really making me doubt Pancakes being town. Both Pancakes and VA seemed content with going for the easy votes on D1/D2 for me. At this point if there was two scum left I'd consider Pancakes/Random because the way Pancakes was defending Random at EoD Day 2 seemed unnatural. Really pushed the vote for Bojack despite Random/Bojack both being good flips and Random being left means it really muddies the water for future votes (which is what is happening right now).
I read today about a botanist that was trying to cross a four leaf clover with poison ivy...
He was hoping for a rash of good luck.
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Hitting scum with LP was dumb luck but hey, I'm not complaining!
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There are currently three players that, in my opinion, have solid town vibes:
– VA: Really like the posts. Like the vibe. Good job!
– Monkey: Very active, very fun, and has good arguments. Huzzah!
– Donnie: Mostly gut feelings, but I like the vibe. There's a certain "honesty" – for lack of a better word – in his posts that I like. Looking forward to reading more from him. Bravo!RIP Donnie.
The rest is still null to me. There is a lot of talk about meta in the top posting players and my eyes are glazing over each time I read that word. These discussions are flying over my head. So I need more time to judge actions.
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RIP Donnie.
Pancakes throws Donnie a town read despite being dead and flipping town. Seems like an easy way to look like you're engaging.
Pancakes comes into the thread, shading basically all the vote getters at EoD Day 1. Lone_Prodigy, Zipped, EC, Launchpand, Random and Captain. EC and Zipped are confirmed town at this point and I highly doubt Launch is scum so that leaves Random/Captain who had one vote each. Don't really like the comment, looks like a great comment because Nat is well protected within the LP train with no scrutinity on him.
CaptainNuevo comes into the day, doesn't really react to the LP flip or the Kopite claim. Thinks LP would be replaced instead of voted. Says Launch and Monkey are the strongest town reads.
Randomless claiming the LP wagon is clean (lol)
Both Random and Pancakes discussing Nat before his inevitable flip.
Anex comment about Natiko.
Captain and Vincent's reaction to Nat's death.
Randomless' reaction to Nat's death
Pancake's reaction to Nat's death.
Captain light defend on Randomless
Pancake looking to not vote off Randomless
Captain comes in and places a vote on Pancakes
Pancakes missing that Captain voted for her.
Captain puts out that he is willing to vote out Bojack and puts Randomless as his top town read.
Pancakes keeps asking people where they would like to vote
My vote would still be on Random says Pancakes, 5 minutes later Launch posts his read on Bojack
3 minutes later, Pancakes agrees with Launch.
Asks for the okay from Launch to switch to Bojack
Captain comes in and switches votes without any fanfare
Pancakes and VA agreeing to swing to Bojack.
Anex felt like a non presence at EoD. I feel much better about how Captain played EoD, he came into the day and put out some votes and then switched to Bojack without looking for approval. My town stock of him is high after re-reading D1 and D2. Anex is playing a much more reserved game and I'm not sure if I'm to scum read him for it.
Pancakes > VA > Randomless/Vere > Anex > Captain in terms of scum reads.
The way Pancakes played D1 and D2 EoD is such a stark contrast, it is really making me doubt Pancakes being town. Both Pancakes and VA seemed content with going for the easy votes on D1/D2 for me. At this point if there was two scum left I'd consider Pancakes/Random because the way Pancakes was defending Random at EoD Day 2 seemed unnatural. Really pushed the vote for Bojack despite Random/Bojack both being good flips and Random being left means it really muddies the water for future votes (which is what is happening right now).
Hard for me to tell me without timestamps but it doesn't really change how I felt about how the end of day went. Leaving it on EC for me seems like a very safe and non committal vote.
Good observation
So, to recap what's going on here, Captain has danced around saying that part of his vanilla role PM was incorrect, that his character name did not match the flavor towards the middle end of the PM, and could not confirm that out loud, but that this flavor belonged to a Fred Flinstone vanilla role PM. When asked how much he can say about it, Captain was told he'd be modkilled if we went into any specifics, and then Captain offers to let us solve him by leveraging said stipulation.
Frankly, I wouldn't have mentioned any of this because there's a dozen different reasons why he could've gotten that in error and also it's not in the spirit of the game to use outside information, especially because it could backfire but mostly because gamerunners make mistakes and we should be fair to how they intended the game to be played…
But I can't deny its a strong likelihood Captain is just town. I just can't buy this kind of gambit from a person who hasn't played mafia in a long long while now.
I did not put the pieces together that his nuclear option involved getting modkilled. That does change my view. If he is town, then my Possibly Scum list goes down to 3. And we have 3 days left. Town has this.
No. It's your comments that seem a little too easy. Go reread the posts where I explained why I was voting EC on day 1. I stand by what I said.
Same with all the explanations I already gave about voting for Bojack and why I did it that way. I also stand by all of it.
"EC Is always an easy target", "... seemed content with going for the easy votes on D1/D2"
It seems to me you're saying a lot of trite stuff so it would be easily accepted by the others. Why is that?
I mean if you think reasoning behind your votes is trite reasoning, I'm not sure what to say. You can stand by your reasoning but I don't agree with it. I don't think any of the things I'm saying is easily accepted, I think going after you is probably the hardest wagon for town to be convinced on because you're town read by quite a lot of people.
I don't place as much weight on what happened D1 since that's a crapshoot in terms of voting and reads but your complete voting strategy shifts from D1 to D2 and your EoD play is completely different, that's why I'm harping on you for it. I don't care that you voted for EC or Bojack, I care how you voted for them.
I dont see how Captain not having played in a while really factors in here?
playing the martyr isnt some dense galaxy brain strategy, its a pretty basic ploy for someone who has a fair bit of mafia experience, which even with his absence id still firmly say is true of him.
Not just the dying part. If he's scum, the whole thing is a gambit because he never received a vanilla role PM with that flavor or whatever
you just said yourself that theres plenty of room for why he might have gotten the mixed up info?
I'd just like to take a moment and say that THIS is what a good post during this day is. Good effort on it, and seems pretty close to where I'd line it up myself (though I'd probably swap Anex and Randomless/Vere personally).
Meta-discussion in the post-game, but just want to call out that I have thoughts here we can discuss in the post-game [not relevant to the game itself right now, just meta-gaming stuff I dislike personally].
LaunchpadMcQ I'm thinking along the same lines as you right now I think, I'm leaning towards Pancakes or VA today. I highly doubt that Captain is scum here. Anex is playing extremely reserved so I can't really say if he is scum at this point. Stan/Ambulance seems town based on my read of Ambulance before he left and Vere/Randomless is mechanically clear for now at least but the way Vere has played this so far seems fine.
Re-reading Day 3 EC just kinda threw himself under the bus basically after one vote. VA placed a vote on him and I said I didn't really think he could be scum but then he pushed on Launch weirdly. I'm not sure what his play was but it was certainly different. I can't really say anyone forced the issue on him because he hung himself out to dry.
The writing was really on the wall D1 huh?
Also the bigly and barely founded pressure Natiko put on Anex upon their entering the game feels like big points in their favour, it was the kind of push that could easily spiral into a typical D1 shit kill, might have if monkey wasnt quick on the defence.
No, I'm EvilChameleon.
Also the bigly and barely founded pressure Natiko put on Anex upon their entering the game feels like big points in their favour, it was the kind of push that could easily spiral into a typical D1 shit kill, might have if monkey wasnt quick on the defence.
I still don't know if that whole thing was a fabricated SvS feud or what.
Welp, I can't deny it was definitely the safe vote. But yeah...EC was kind of asking to be voted out, and I've stopped trying to figure out why.
I'd like to re-visit this while we're all hanging out. I asked Anex if they'd be willing to target someone again tonight to prove their role if they survived being voted out:
Today
Player 1 (Vote out D4)
Player 2 (NK N4)
Player 3 (Donut death N4)
Day 5
Player 4 (Vote out D5)
Player 5 (NK N5)
Day 6
Player 6
Player 7
Player 8
Right?
Anyone else have thoughts on this? I've mad my position clear that I wish Anex had used their ability at least one other time so we could have someone else confirm it. At first I didn't want to push it if it could lead to a town death, BUT---someone check my math----regardless if Anex were to accidentally die or not, we have 3 days left still.
Today
Player 1 (Vote out D4)
Player 2 (NK N4)
Player 3 (Donut death N4)
Day 5
Player 4 (Vote out D5)
Player 5 (NK N5)
Day 6
Player 6
Player 7
Player 8
Right?
What do you have for us Stan, in the I don't like that person range?
Depends on the number of scum. With 2, we have 2 days left.
1 scum left: 7 town
D4: MV/NK->1;5
D5: MV/NK->1;3/2 (Donut Death)
D6: MV->dead either way
2 scum left: 6 town
D4:MV/NK/Donut Death->2;4(3)
D5: MV/NK->2;2
It seems like an extra person dying doesn't move the needle for Volo other than fighting over majority.
Do you mean Monkey as the other S there, or Anex?
Partly through this reread, the main bigly read i have that i feel comfortable saying before finishing is that Monkeys D1 feels bigly town to me,
i know Monkey and Nat could argue as SvS easily but that particulars of it evolving from a quick push and immediate intercept over Anex feels like a far too organic impetus for it. Unless something in Nekis play makes me walk this read back im pretty high on Neki being town via inheritance.
Between Anex being the catalyst of that exchange and how theyve describe their play about their role im also feeling more town on them as well
between those and what seems like an orgy of evidence for Launch's towniness im betting ill find scum reads more via PoE by the time im through.
Not Monkey as the other scum, but Anex. I'll go to the grave that Monkey/Neki is town.
^If that was the case, I think a monkey wrench got involved and diced it up, eventually leading to Nat backing off before he got too deep. But he did get pretty deep so I dunno. I'm still kinda leaning on letting Anex prove out their power.
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==== DAY 4 VOTES ====
Day Start
Stantastic (1 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #1,594
CaptainNuevo (1 votes)
anexanhume - #1,580
Not voting: Vincent Alexander, Neki, Stantastic, Verelios, Conditional-Pancakes, LaunchpadMcQ
Post Counts:
LaunchpadMcQ: 45 anexanhume: 30 Vincent Alexander: 24 Conditional-Pancakes: 16 Verelios: 15 Neki: 11 Stantastic: 9 CaptainNuevo: 6
Current Countdown:
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Day Start
Stantastic (1 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #1,594
CaptainNuevo (1 votes)
anexanhume - #1,580
Not voting: Vincent Alexander, Neki, Stantastic, Verelios, Conditional-Pancakes, LaunchpadMcQ
Post Counts:
LaunchpadMcQ: 45 anexanhume: 30 Vincent Alexander: 24 Conditional-Pancakes: 16 Verelios: 15 Neki: 11 Stantastic: 9 CaptainNuevo: 6
Current Countdown:
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Do you think it's worth Anex using their power tonight if they live?
I very much doubt it matters. Just being honest at a surface level, having him prove his PR means needing Anex to get to Volo in three days if we haven't won yet, or tomorrow with 1 person claiming the message (if scum have 2 players; and there will be WIFOM here). At that point, we either trust Anex or we don't and him proving his PR is a moot point. At least, it's not immediately important to me.
Is it, though? I don't agree at all. Because all the context has been deliberately omitted. To me, it seems to be closer to a manipulation attempt than an objective analysis. Just look at the part addressing the moment I voted for Bojack. It's framed in a way to make one think that I suspiciously said something and then the opposite right after without any sort of reasons. Conveniently omitting the fact that I repeated a bunch of times (like here, for just a quick example) that I would be willing to vote elsewhere if there was a better case. Because remember, most of us agreed to collaborate with people we were reading as town at that point. So when Launch (someone that I was heavily reading as town) posted this, it was indeed something I thought was interesting enough for me to consider switching if the people I mostly trusted also wanted to go in that direction.
And I've said the above a few times already. But sure, let's frame it like in Neki's posts...
I read Neki's analysis posts a few times already, and they come out to me as so strange and so potentially manipulative and malicious that if I wasn't so convinced that Monkey was town, I think I would be putting a vote on Neki right now.
I mean I'm not going to be able to grab every single post that you posted because that's going to take too long. I'm going to take the posts that seemed off to me so that's what I grabbed. I wasn't there for D1 and D2 and all of you were so if people think you're making a suspect post, I hope that they would in good faith to to the actual post and read the context of what was being said. Collabing with town even though you don't know who is scum and who is town at that point isn't a strong enough argument for me. You were highly skeptical on D1 and then on D2 you were open to voting with whoever you could find, that's why it doesn't sit right with me. What changed from D1 and D2 that made you much more trustworthy to follow VA?
You're also ignoring all the points I made about you constantly shading the D1 votes having by saying it was a scum vs scum situation or giving a weak town read to someone who had already flipped town (Donnie).
Don't scum read me because I'm scum reading you.
You're also ignoring all the points I made about you constantly shading the D1 votes having by saying it was a scum vs scum situation or giving a weak town read to someone who had already flipped town (Donnie).
Don't scum read me because I'm scum reading you.
Oh wow...
I would do the exact same if you were talking the same way exclusively about VA, for example. I'm not scum reading you because you're scum reading me, lol! I'm questioning your intent because what you write seems heavily disingenuous.
Stuff like this:
Skeptical about what? And voting with whoever I could find? What?
The very first post I made on day two had me town read VA. Come on...
And I'm sure you'll find that me trusting Launch with the events that happened during day 2 cannot be such a deep mystery.
I'm ignoring this because it doesn't make any sense to me. I read it few times and 'm not even sure what you mean by this. Shading who? Shading how? It's so strange.
And about Donnie, I've said at least twice during the first day that I had a tentative town read on them. I mean, come on...
I would do the exact same if you were talking the same way exclusively about VA, for example. I'm not scum reading you because you're scum reading me, lol! I'm questioning your intent because what you write seems heavily disingenuous.
Stuff like this:
Skeptical about what? And voting with whoever I could find? What?
The very first post I made on day two had me town read VA. Come on...
And I'm sure you'll find that me trusting Launch with the events that happened during day 2 cannot be such a deep mystery.
I'm ignoring this because it doesn't make any sense to me. I read it few times and 'm not even sure what you mean by this. Shading who? Shading how? It's so strange.
And about Donnie, I've said at least twice during the first day that I had a tentative town read on them. I mean, come on...
If you come into the thread and muse that it may have been a SvSvT vote then you're naturally shading anyone who was getting votes at the end of Day 1 And when say shading, I mean that you are putting them in a bad light so they're more likely to get scum read. That's the term I'm using when people try to make other looks more scummy / un-townlike. It means you're implying LP didn't want to vote anywhere else because they were all his teammates. I feel like you're purposely misreading what I'm saying or unknowingly being obtuse because everyone else seems to understand the angle I'm coming from.
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start - Day End
Lone_Prodigy (4 votes)
Dr. Monkey - #388 #569
Natiko - #465
Kopite - #521 #531
Donniewahlberg - #574
Dr. Monkey - #604
LaunchpadMcQ - #605
Zippedpinhead (2 votes)
Randomless - #568
Dr. Monkey - #569 #604
BoJack Horseman - #599
EvilChameleon (2 votes)
Natiko - #125 #234
LaunchpadMcQ - #129 #426
Conditional-Pancakes - #327
Vincent Alexander - #547
CaptainNuevo (1 votes)
Randomless - #88 #329
anexanhume - #429
Randomless (1 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #509
LaunchpadMcQ (1 votes)
EvilChameleon - #440
Vincent Alexander (0 votes)
LaunchpadMcQ - #511 #605
Kopite (0 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #347 #509
Vincent Alexander - #411 #547
Randomless - #459 #513
Natiko (0 votes)
Dr. Monkey - #105 #388
EvilChameleon - #128 #440
anexanhume (0 votes)
Natiko - #234 #293
Conditional-Pancakes (0 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #165 #347
BoJack Horseman - #562 #599
Dr. Monkey (0 votes)
Zippedpinhead - #114 #279
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start - Day End
Lone_Prodigy (4 votes)
Natiko - #465
Donniewahlberg - #574
Dr. Monkey - #604
LaunchpadMcQ - #605
Zippedpinhead (2 votes)
Randomless - #568
BoJack Horseman - #599
EvilChameleon (2 votes)
Conditional-Pancakes - #327
Vincent Alexander - #547
CaptainNuevo (1 votes)
anexanhume - #429
Randomless (1 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #509
LaunchpadMcQ (1 votes)
EvilChameleon - #440
Vincent Alexander (0 votes)
Kopite (0 votes)
Natiko (0 votes)
anexanhume (0 votes)
Conditional-Pancakes (0 votes)
Dr. Monkey (0 votes)
I'm scum reading VA too but he hasn't responded to my posts say that I'm purposely misinterpreting him and being malicious with my posts. When I say skeptical is that you were there at EoD on D1 and you sat on the EC vote despite it looking like the entire vote was going to be a crapshoot because no one was willing to move anywhere. Launch and Monkey ultimately decided who got voted out D1 because they were willing to move and I would give them town credit for moving to make a decisive vote. Vere/Random claims they were willing to move but if they were LP's teammate they easily could have moved onto him to get some sort of town cred so I give slight credit there. I'm skeptical of anyone who was there at EoD on D1 and that's you and Anex because you both sat on your votes when it was looking like a bad vote. That's why I'm saying you were skeptical in comparison to your D2 where you were ready to move your vote wherever.
I didn't move my vote day 1 because I wasn't convince at all that LP was scum. It's as simple as that. It seemed to me at the time that he was mostly voted out simply because of a low post count, and it wasn't something I was convinced was the right thing to do.
And here's another example of why I think what you write is so manipulative:
The context (and what I said multiple times already) clearly doesn't show I was ready to vote "wherever", yet this is the narrative you insist on pushing.
But you do you I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And here's another example of why I think what you write is so manipulative:
The context (and what I said multiple times already) clearly doesn't show I was ready to vote "wherever", yet this is the narrative you insist on pushing.
But you do you I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean compared to D1 yes. You didn't bother pinging or asking anyone if they wanted to move to EC or move to another vote, you just sat there and let the vote go on by on D1. So in comparison to your D2, your D1 was much more skeptical and reserved. I don't think that's manipulative to say at all because that's what happened. You pinged Launch, asked if he wanted to move to Bojack, you asked VA if he wanted to move to Bojack, I was just wondering why you didn't want to do that on D1 to try to save LP if you didn't think he was scum?
This is what you did at EoD on Day 1:
This is what you did at EoD on Day 2:
Pancakes, we're clearly not seeing eye to eye on this and I don't fault you for that. I hope you aren't upset at my constant prodding of your play but I want to be thorough on people who I think could be scum. Just know that out of game I'm sure you're a wonderful person so don't take any of this personally if you think I'm actively being harmful to you in game because that is not my intent. I would like other people to weigh on your thoughts and my thoughts before going any further because it seems neither of us will budge on this.
Still choosing to completely and willfully ignore context and explanations.
Don't worry, I'm not upset. I just don't agree with your reading at all.
Don't worry, I'm not upset. I just don't agree with your reading at all.
Conditional-Pancakes The day phase ends in ~10 hours. Where is your head at? You're trying to defend yourself, but you haven't given us a name to look at. If you're not scum, then who is?
Vincent Alexander I need your thoughts on what Neki and I have been saying about Pancakes this day phase. Where do you stand?
Vincent Alexander I need your thoughts on what Neki and I have been saying about Pancakes this day phase. Where do you stand?
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Stantastic (1 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #1,594
CaptainNuevo (1 votes)
anexanhume - #1,580
Not voting: Vincent Alexander, Neki, Stantastic, Verelios, Conditional-Pancakes, LaunchpadMcQ
Post Counts:
LaunchpadMcQ: 46 anexanhume: 31 Vincent Alexander: 25 Conditional-Pancakes: 20 Neki: 17 Verelios: 16 Stantastic: 9 CaptainNuevo: 6
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Day Start
Stantastic (1 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #1,594
CaptainNuevo (1 votes)
anexanhume - #1,580
Not voting: Vincent Alexander, Neki, Stantastic, Verelios, Conditional-Pancakes, LaunchpadMcQ
Post Counts:
LaunchpadMcQ: 46 anexanhume: 31 Vincent Alexander: 25 Conditional-Pancakes: 20 Neki: 17 Verelios: 16 Stantastic: 9 CaptainNuevo: 6
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I have a hard time swallowing the scum!VA pill given how much effort he's put into D2/D3/D4. Give me your case there.