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KoolAid

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Oct 25, 2017
6,676
Hulu with Live TV is getting another price hike, but the subscription will now include Disney Plus and ESPN Plus at no additional cost.

Beginning December 21st, Hulu with Live TV's monthly subscription cost will jump from its current price of $65 per month to $70 per month for its ad-supported tier. Its ad-free live TV package, meanwhile, will jump from $71 per month to $76 per month when the change goes into effect. The new pricing will apply to both new subscribers and those already paying for the service.

www.theverge.com

Hulu with Live TV is raising its price to $70 but will include the Disney Bundle

Disney Plus and ESPN Plus will now be included in the sub.
 

platocplx

2020 Member Elect
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Oct 30, 2017
36,072
combine internet and a few streaming services pretty much back to cable prices or worse. Pretty nuts.
 

smurfx

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,578
it isn't really giving you anything as you are paying for disney/espn.

combine internet and a few streaming services pretty much back to cable prices or worse. Pretty nuts.
its much worse as you can at least get deals with your cable provider if they also provide your internet.
 

Radd Redd

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Oct 27, 2017
7,999
Damn even with the price jump I'm still paying less with a tv streaming service and fios.
 

Mewzard

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Feb 4, 2018
3,443
I currently pay $72.99 for Hulu with Disney Plus, so it'll actually be a few dollars cheaper for me with this change.
 

Radd Redd

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Oct 27, 2017
7,999
At least we still don't have to pay for set top boxes per month like you do with cable. That's how they get you.
 
Oct 28, 2017
27,088
What's so great about Hulu live? Am I getting more than what I would get with regular Hulu and some rabbit ears* on the TV? I legit don't know



*I'm getting close to 70 OTA channels currently.
 

J-Wood

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Oct 25, 2017
5,749
Sucked when it happened to YouTube TV and sucks here too. I don't know why anyone thought internet TV would be the future though. The TV providers? Owned by the same companies that own the channels themselves. We are really thought they would allow things like Hulu and YTTV to offer them cheaper? Nah, they just took a minute to squeeze the internet tv companies to raise the price. Same reason you see the "tv disputes" with Viacom and YTTV recently, etc. We were fools.
 

Dali

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Oct 27, 2017
6,184
I did the free trial about a year or two ago. My parents use my Hulu account but since they live in another state I got a warning saying something like I needed to pick a zip code. So basically for that week I let them have it and couldn't use Hulu.

I'd like to consolidate since this is about the same price as YouTube tv that I'm paying for now, but that's not going to work because of the aforementioned problem.

For the record YouTube tv has the same limitation last time I tried it when my parents had it. Sharing is allowed, but only within the home viewing area/market. So after visiting then going back to my home it stops allowing you to use it after a couple of months unless you access it from an IP within the home area.
 

Sunster

The Fallen
Oct 5, 2018
10,011
we've come full circle.


Cable be like
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Dr. Rank

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Oct 25, 2017
164
Sucks that's it's basically a wash now. The only advantage is that I can subscribe for a few months (basically football season) then cancel.
 

TitanicFall

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Nov 12, 2017
8,264
All these streaming live TV services have virtually eliminated any price advantage they had over traditional cable after only 3-4 years. Only thing you gain is a more slick interface.
 

GoldenEye 007

Roll Tide, Y'all!
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Oct 25, 2017
13,833
Texas
The value in streaming at this point is non-live services. Can have a few of those and it be really cheap. Now of course, you'll still get screwed by your internet provider because they will raise their prices for having only internet and no cable added, but if you have some restraint, it can work.

Edit: Hell you could set a budget of $20-25 a month and find 3-4 services to cover a lot of variety with non-live/sports stuff.
 

Noisy Ninj4

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Oct 25, 2017
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The value in streaming at this point is non-live services. Can have a few of those and it be really cheap. Now of course, you'll still get screwed by your internet provider because they will raise their prices for having only internet and no cable added, but if you have some restraint, it can work.

Edit: Hell you could set a budget of $20-25 a month and find 3-4 services to cover a lot of variety with non-live/sports stuff.
This is basically what I do. Couldn't really give a shit about live tv, so I just stream whatever is interesting in a given month.
 

blame space

Resettlement Advisor
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Oct 25, 2017
15,420
at that point just go back to cable. i pay like $50 for cable and internet every month and then just do random months of services. so i don't miss local sports or watching events.
 

rjinaz

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Oct 25, 2017
28,392
Phoenix
The value in streaming at this point is non-live services. Can have a few of those and it be really cheap. Now of course, you'll still get screwed by your internet provider because they will raise their prices for having only internet and no cable added, but if you have some restraint, it can work.

Edit: Hell you could set a budget of $20-25 a month and find 3-4 services to cover a lot of variety with non-live/sports stuff.
Without sports and cable news there is literally zero reason for me to have cable. Others probably disagree but I'm fine with the sports games becoming streaming exclusive, it's the only way I can watch them without dropping $70 for cable.

Paramount, and Amazon both provide US football games for example. Paramount offers the local CBS station live as well. It's basically just football and basketball I miss out on for not having cable. I can usually find a good deal with MLB with some promotion or another and watch all the games on my xbox.
 

Tbm24

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Oct 25, 2017
16,235
Dang, I have Hulu live for F1 and some shows my wife watches. It was already expensive, not looking forward to this.
 

milkyway

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May 17, 2018
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Idk even with the high prices for these packages it still seems like unless you're getting a limited time deal, no cable is still better. Maybe it just depends on the area but getting my grandma on YouTube TV and porting her landline saved her $100/month.
 

I KILL PXLS

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Oct 25, 2017
11,525
Kind of blows since I already have Disney+ and Hulu Live separately and have zero interest in ESPN. I guess I'll be kind of paying twice for Disney+ now.

Same price basically as the far superior YouTube TV. That's nuts.
Genuinely curious why you think it's superior. I looked in to YouTube TV years ago when trying to decide which one to go with but ended up going with Hulu Live.
 

Axis

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Dec 9, 2017
186
I did the free trial about a year or two ago. My parents use my Hulu account but since they live in another state I got a warning saying something like I needed to pick a zip code. So basically for that week I let them have it and couldn't use Hulu.

I'd like to consolidate since this is about the same price as YouTube tv that I'm paying for now, but that's not going to work because of the aforementioned problem.

For the record YouTube tv has the same limitation last time I tried it when my parents had it. Sharing is allowed, but only within the home viewing area/market. So after visiting then going back to my home it stops allowing you to use it after a couple of months unless you access it from an IP within the home area.

I've been using my uncle's YouTube TV account for well over a year now and we both live in different states.

What it does after a few months is ask you if the area you're in right now is your new home area or are you there temporarily. I select that I'm here temporarily and the only thing that changes is that it gives me the local channels for where I'm at.

Everything else works exactly the same; DVR, library, etc.

Anytime that I feel like going back to his local channels, I just ask him to login on my account and it switches me back for another few months.

It also helps to make a family account and then add their own email to it, so they can have their own unique settings like we do.
 

rjinaz

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
28,392
Phoenix
Kind of blows since I already have Disney+ and Hulu Live separately and have zero interest in ESPN. I guess I'll be kind of paying twice for Disney+ now.


Genuinely curious why you think it's superior. I looked in to YouTube TV years ago when trying to decide which one to go with but ended up going with Hulu Live.
I couldn't figure out ESPN unless I was doing it wrong. It basically seemed to be just select shows and a few sports games that I would never watch. You don't get access to the actual ESPN channel. But I am prepared to admit I could be wrong and just gave up without figuring it out.
 

rjinaz

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Oct 25, 2017
28,392
Phoenix
People watch regular tv?
You'd be surprised. Basically a lot of folks that grew up with cable where it's just the norm for them and have always had it.

Anecdotally, maybe 25% of the people I know have cable and it's mostly older folks.

Heavy sports fans tend to have cable or satellite.

Before Disney and Paramount in the US, cable was basically required if you had kids lol. Now you can just pop on a Nick Jr show or Disney show.
 
Oct 27, 2017
21,518
And I'll continue to not pay for this type of shit. I don't watch near enough TV to justify stupid prices like this.
I'll continue with what I get OTA for live TV and just go without the rest.
 

Darknight

"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
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Oct 25, 2017
22,805
76 dollars a month holy shit

I think some people don't understand what this is. For $76, you get:

Hulu w/o Ads
Hulu Live TV
Disney+
ESPN+

If you want to save $5, you can get Hulu with ads. Hulu w/o ads is $12.99, Disney+ is $7.99, and ESPN+ is $6.99. That's $28 in streaming service before the Live TV is factored in which would be $48. That's cheaper than cable/satellite and cheaper than other similar services like YouTube TV. It's not just straight up live TV service.

How about we get a chance to try it first.

Nah, because people in their heads think 200 channels divided by 60 means it should cost them 30 cents a channel. A markup would make it a $1 a channel. They'll balk when they're paying $5 to $10 per channel depending on what the channel is. People have unrealistic expectations just like expecting a $13 service was going to offer everything and replace $60 to $100 services and then are suddenly surprised when multiple services comes out to add up to the same cost. Multiple streaming services is essentially a la carte where you can pick the content provider based on the content they offer and is essentially a channel and people complain constantly about it.
 

Radd Redd

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Oct 27, 2017
7,999
You'd be surprised. Basically a lot of folks that grew up with cable where it's just the norm for them and have always had it.

Anecdotally, maybe 25% of the people I know have cable and it's mostly older folks.

Heavy sports fans tend to have cable or satellite.

Before Disney and Paramount in the US, cable was basically required if you had kids lol. Now you can just pop on a Nick Jr show or Disney show.
It's mostly sports fan and old folks I bet. I have it for sports.
 
May 14, 2021
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Kind of blows since I already have Disney+ and Hulu Live separately and have zero interest in ESPN. I guess I'll be kind of paying twice for Disney+ now.


Genuinely curious why you think it's superior. I looked in to YouTube TV years ago when trying to decide which one to go with but ended up going with Hulu Live.
Locals, RedZone, unlimited recordings, and a bunch of other reasons I'm currently forgetting that ended up being extra fees on Hulu. I also hate the tv interface on Hulu.
 

iceblade

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Oct 25, 2017
4,213
Why can't we just get true a la carte pricing?

One reason is because most network owners (ie Viacom/CBS, Disney, etc) want to bundle the big channels they have, with the smaller channels that don't get nearly as many viewers. If the channels were offered a la carte, then those smaller channels would die off. ESPN is one such example. Not everyone wants or needs ESPN, but if you want something like The History Channel or A&E, it is better for Disney if that is forced to be bundled with those channels, and typically the TV provider will either drop all the channels (dispute), not offer them (which pushes you to other competitors that do) or pass the costs onto you.

It is more complicated and nuanced than that,. but that's one reason.

i remember paying like $30-$35 for PSTV. what the hell happened to this market?

Streaming was always going to wind up this way. Netflix (streaming) is a good example here. Really great when it first started, but once people started to realize just how much money there is to make in there, the cost of rights acquisitions started to go up, and the market became more and more fragmented and expensive. You've also had things like retransmission fees come into play (TV providers having to pay local channels to [re]broadcast their feeds), and all of that has made things a lot more expensive as costs have been passed to the consumer.

It also doesn't help that you've had internet providers (Comcast and AT&T for example) also trying to jump in to content production by buying up studios. That let them make money from charging others to carry their content. They've also been in the position of being able to cap your internet to push you to either pay more for your data, or preferably, subscribe to their TV services which wind up being about as expensive with a bundle as the internet service + a couple of streaming services.
 
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Giolon

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
3,080
Though I'm a bit incensed they're forcing these services on me to justify a price increase, I'll save like $2/mo b/c I do have Disney+ but I won't have the option to cancel to save money while there's no content I'm interested in.

I still prefer Hulu TV to Cable because I can watch everything, even live TV, anywhere, any time.

Comcast (when I left about 3 years ago) only offered a limited selection of channels live if you were outside your home network.

AT&T's U-Verse TV (around the same time) was an absolute fucking joke and had even fewer live streaming channels. You couldn't even stream DVR recordings. They had to be watched on the physical box they were recorded on like it was 2008.
 

Shedinja

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Nov 30, 2017
1,815
i remember paying like $30-$35 for PSTV. what the hell happened to this market?
Same thing for DirecTV Stream, which now starts at $70. These streaming cable services used to be really cheap just a few years ago. YouTube TV launched at $35 but is now $65. I think Sling is the only one left with packages starting in the $30 range.
 
Oct 27, 2017
45,044
Seattle
I get enough live sports through ESPN+, peacock, paramount and prime that I don't feel I miss out on much. Live is not worth what Hulu and YouTube is charging