[Insider Gaming] Despite its reception, CoD: Vanguard seems to have sold 30 million copies.
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people expected COD to sell bad? because of bad reception of hardcore gamer bubbles? 2024 and we didnt learn anything
I can't tell you the amount of times I've heard Vanguard was a flop. Era is notoriously bad for predictions and expectations of game sales/MAU, especially with the most popular titles in existence (CoD, Fortnite, Roblox, anything mobile). Which has always been weird.
It depends what you mean by flop. Even Activision, as the article says, were disappointed in the sales and I distinctly remember it dropping in price way faster than any recent CoD game.
It just signifies how amazing CoD sells that the disappointment can easily sell 30m.
CoD
EAFC(Fifa)
Nba 2K
Are games that will always sell no matter how people feel about them. They are a culture unto themselves.
EAFC(Fifa)
Nba 2K
Are games that will always sell no matter how people feel about them. They are a culture unto themselves.
Right, but that's the thing: ABK saying it didn't meet their expectations (because they're freakin' ABK) =/= what the average enthusiast like you or me considers a "flop." That wasn't the connotation being used at large.
Decent single player, fucking awful MP.
I'm done with Sledgehammer and IW COD's. Just awful feeling MP.
The year of the Gulf is upon us.
I'm done with Sledgehammer and IW COD's. Just awful feeling MP.
The year of the Gulf is upon us.
Not weird when you consider
1. Sledgehammer has to immediately turn around and start working on MWIII with just 2 years of development.
2. Treyarch(zombies)had to turn around and do Modern Warfare Zombies in less than 2 years and have their own full zombies experience the year after that
Doesn't really matter how well it sold Vanguard was made a a filler to give Infinity Ward a 3rd year of development on MWII(which they wasted but definitely needed as there were internal issues)
Sledgehammer then got turned around and sacrificed again to give Treyarch a 4th year for that game.
However unlike Infinity Ward Sledgehammer actually communicates and takes feedback which is why MWIII is doing better player numbers year that MWII was.
As an enthusiast forum it's a bit popular to shit on those games and that probably clouds judgement. We can talk about some visual novel game and the overwhelming majority of gamers wouldn't even give that a try for free.
CoD doesn't flop, I understood that after Infinite Warfare still outsold BF1 despite the massive amount of pre-launch negativity
Also not surprised CoD just continues to do well, since the games always come with enough content and modes to justify the price, and the arcade shooter market is bone dry otherwise
Also not surprised CoD just continues to do well, since the games always come with enough content and modes to justify the price, and the arcade shooter market is bone dry otherwise
I realized there is a massive population of people whose hobby is simply CoD. They aren't gamers in a broad sense but CoD players. They just like their one game and that's okay, even if we shouldn't reward such mediocrity.
I've had more fun with the older setting COD campaigns than the modern ones. The best modern one to me was Advanced Warfare, but then they jumped the shark with the space stuff which everyone here seemed to love but I just couldn't finish it.
Despite the hate on the game (non warranted), this game has the best COD MP since black ops 4. It's a shame people don't play this much anymore
I do miss being able to fill every up every attachment slot on the weapons to make some proper monstrosities. Apart from a few items that have small benefits and no downsides, I feel like the 5 limit in the new MW games is pretty arbitrary.
Yep and I believe both COD Mobile and Warzone played a part in that. You basically now have COD all year around and every you go and which ever price from free to play all the way to $70 bucks.
Elden Ring probably had a higher average unit price vs Vanguard tho
It was better than all 3 new MW games but still sucked.
I wish they'd give up on this stupid new engine they're forcing all the studios to use and let Treyarch make another game in the Cold War engine, which felt much better, especially in multiplayer.
Also, the future movement CoDs were all better than the modern day stuff. I know it was unpopular at the time but I liked it. Similarly I wish they'd drop the stupid $20 bundles and just charge me for DLC. At least with the map packs, the maps were often great and zombies actually had a budget
I wish they'd give up on this stupid new engine they're forcing all the studios to use and let Treyarch make another game in the Cold War engine, which felt much better, especially in multiplayer.
Also, the future movement CoDs were all better than the modern day stuff. I know it was unpopular at the time but I liked it. Similarly I wish they'd drop the stupid $20 bundles and just charge me for DLC. At least with the map packs, the maps were often great and zombies actually had a budget
It's this. Like you may see some say "this year's COD is awful" but COD stays COD because nothing else plays like it at a fundamental level. The only thing that ever has is Titanfall... because you know, there's a big reason why.
I've seen it theorized the only reason annualized premium COD games are a thing, rather than making COD a seasonal client like Fortnite, is due to the cosmetics issue. Fortnite prints money because players want those skins. COD is big on cosmetics but not in the same league.
So the money is in releasing a full priced game every year and encouraging most players to drop the previous one. If COD could support Fortnite levels of MTX we'd probably have already seen it go client based.
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They've only ever both gone on sale at most for $30, and Vanguard was $70, so I don't think this is true and CoD usually isn't on sale for long.
Call of Duty: Vanguard costs just $39 at Warmart in Black Friday sales
Warmart+ subscribers can get Call of Duty: Vanguard on the cheap during Black Friday sales, the cheapest price yet at $39.
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Yeah but it was like $39 at black friday weeks after release. Elden Ring was $60 only for a looong time iirc. We will never know tho.
Thought it was one of the worst games, but COD has always sold well, it was the best selling game of 2022. The game had less revenue and less engagement that prior COD by fair amount which is why it was considered disappointing to the markets at the time. E.g.
Generally, Think COD is one of the safest purchases to get. It's a full package mostly releasing yearly, with campaign, MP etc. that not a single other game competes with.
Generally, Think COD is one of the safest purchases to get. It's a full package mostly releasing yearly, with campaign, MP etc. that not a single other game competes with.
Csnt freaking wait, Cold War was one of my favorite recent CODs and that was rushed and had a major portion of dev time during early Covid...
90s seems like one of the absolute best settings for a military game atm
Hopefully Gulf War keeps the post launch story going and it doesn't get abandoned like Vanguard or cut entirely like MWII and MWIII
We could be in for an amazing year if the extra time did the trick and they didn't have any set backs like the last few games.
Unless it's Infinite Warfare, the most interesting setting and best campaign since the original MW2. Goddamn shame.
It's silly that a game can sell taht many copies and still underperform. Obviously it would have cost a lot because they basically just threw bodies at the problem to get a game out to plug their sales hole but 30 million copies is going to be one of if not the biggest selling titles in any given year, and if a game doesn't do well seling that many, then the entire industry needs to be reconsidered. Feels like a colossal money laundering operatiojn
COD cares about more than units sold. It's about player engagement and getting folks to buy the season pass, mtxs etc.
I mean WWII sold amazingly and Activision fired their managment because the active users went off a cliff