That 'ruled by pharma' stuff is the kind of thing that is always shared by a (former) hippie friend of mine who was once a staunch liberal feminist and is now a true Q disciple who worships MAGA.
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That 'ruled by pharma' stuff is the kind of thing that is always shared by a (former) hippie friend of mine who was once a staunch liberal feminist and is now a true Q disciple who worships MAGA.
Hard one really. No idea how they got into this situation. Are they outspoken antivaxxers? Was he vaxxed? On time or both shots? We're they just mistrusting the emergency use of the vaccine?
But no matter what, if he is intubated since four weeks, he is on his way out and I would have done anything for my wife when she was on the edge of dying. The wife is in a situation where every little chance is giving her hope, no matter how ridiculous. This is about medical Ivermectin, not horse dewormer. If costs are covered, the hospital made sure it can't get sued and the man is on his last breaths anyway, the harm isn't really big, and no matter what happens, there is at least another clinical result that's showing how his condition went under the medication.
But no matter what, if he is intubated since four weeks, he is on his way out and I would have done anything for my wife when she was on the edge of dying. The wife is in a situation where every little chance is giving her hope, no matter how ridiculous. This is about medical Ivermectin, not horse dewormer. If costs are covered, the hospital made sure it can't get sued and the man is on his last breaths anyway, the harm isn't really big, and no matter what happens, there is at least another clinical result that's showing how his condition went under the medication.
That's ridiculous. Their little nonprofit is also ridiculous and despite having the typical warnings (educational use only, not a substitute for medical advice, etc) really tries to come off as legit.
covid19criticalcare.com
Dangerous shit. They even have a peer-reviewed meta-analysis of ivermectin that concludes it has a statistically significant impact on long-term covid effects.
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FLCCC is The Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance: Dedicated to COVID prevention & treatment, empowering individuals for better health.
covid19criticalcare.com
Dangerous shit. They even have a peer-reviewed meta-analysis of ivermectin that concludes it has a statistically significant impact on long-term covid effects.
It's just frustrating because that kind of stuff is how we get armchair experts in the first place. If the system to give people credentials doesn't work what's the point of the system? I want to trust what experts have to say, not make my own decision with even less information than them…
Wait. Wait. Wait.
So, the pharmaceutical industry regulates what is taught in medical school. They set the standards on the most effective treatments individuals should receive for various conditions and diseases?
Question for you, because I'm just a dumb person that trusts my doctor who prescribed me my medication for my issues, is there a better way to treat my ADHD and manic bipolar issues as opposed to the medications I'm using? Also, I see a dermatologist who's treating me for a skin problem that could lead to cancer. Is the prescription he's giving me legit or should I consider the medication and treatment "quackery" and depend on a prayer circle and some herbs? Maybe a few crystals or essential oils?
Do you realize that what you wrote is dangerous and the exact type of logic that anti-vax people use to justify not getting vaccinated? I'm watching my state get eviscerated by Delta variant and you're saying that modern medicine is a type of quackery? What!?
I agree. Just saying that's what the judge is actually ordering.
So if I'm understanding this correctly, the plaintiff was an anti-vaxxer, found a doctor to sign off on the non-animal version of ivermectin, then got a judge to sign off on the doctor signing off.
If that's the case, I'm not really sure what can be done in the short term besides the hospital having the patient sign tons of waivers and the medical board looking into this Wagshul quack. I wonder what kind of legal precedents there are for this scenario, it doesn't seem like the judge would be able to make a real medical determination of the benefits/risks involved.
If that's the case, I'm not really sure what can be done in the short term besides the hospital having the patient sign tons of waivers and the medical board looking into this Wagshul quack. I wonder what kind of legal precedents there are for this scenario, it doesn't seem like the judge would be able to make a real medical determination of the benefits/risks involved.
I made a huge post discussing how these fools operate. They are tied to America's Frontline Dr.'s (looney tunes right wing group).That's ridiculous. Their little nonprofit is also ridiculous and despite having the typical warnings (educational use only, not a substitute for medical advice, etc) really tries to come off as legit.
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FLCCC is The Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance: Dedicated to COVID prevention & treatment, empowering individuals for better health.
Dangerous shit. They even have a peer-reviewed meta-analysis of ivermectin that concludes it has a statistically significant impact on long-term covid effects.
Need some Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin? America's Frontline Doctors Online got you covered.
Ya'll know how popular Moo Juice is. Clamoring for Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin, some turn to a pro-Trump telemedicine website https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/ivermectin-demand-drives-trump-telemedicine-website-rcna1791
www.resetera.com
I made a huge post discussing how these fools operate. They are tied to America's Frontline Dr.'s (looney tunes right wing group).
Need some Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin? America's Frontline Doctors Online got you covered.
Ya'll know how popular Moo Juice is. Clamoring for Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin, some turn to a pro-Trump telemedicine website https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/ivermectin-demand-drives-trump-telemedicine-website-rcna1791
I'll definitely check that out, I find this stuff almost as fascinating as it is horrifying. All these groups they hide behind to peddle complete nonsense.
Guarantee that the same dipshits whining about kids eating detergent pods years back are the ones eating deworming paste now.
The real issue is Judges have too much power in our current system….
The judicial branch needs to be limited
The judicial branch needs to be limited
Honestly, that's where I see this going.
Anti-vaxxers/maskers have been updating their conspiracy theories to now blame doctors when unvaccinated patients die of COVID-19. It's worrisome because I fear this will lead to (more) violence against medical officials.
For fuck's sakes, healthcare workers don't grow on trees. If you chase them all out of the profession, no one will be able to get treatment when they need it!
I used to think this until I had a session that fixed a long standing joint issue for me.
This is a point that is lost on a lot of people, especially in hospital practice where many don't understand the role of pharmacy. Any medication ordered to be given in the hospital, with certain exception, must be reviewed and approved by a pharmacist. Even if crazy worm medicine doctor ordered ivermectin, I could refuse this order on grounds that it is unsafe and clinically inappropriate. If I sign off on the order and the patient goes on to be harmed, or to die, or really anything happens, I am liable to lawsuit and could have my license taken away depending on the findings.
I don't get it. Can't the judge say if that treatment is needed, then the patient has to be under that Outside doctors care…why does the hospital have to deal with this shit.
Legally say to discharge this fool and give him the dumbass drugs to take at home, since I'm assuming this quack doctor just does outpatient
Legally say to discharge this fool and give him the dumbass drugs to take at home, since I'm assuming this quack doctor just does outpatient
Courts mucking around in dr's business is not a new thing. See: Schiavo, Terry for a much bigger fiasco
To add to this, the nurse doesn't have to administer any medication they're don't feel comfortable with (for the most part)
So you need a quack doctor themselves to administer the medication and a quack pharmacist to dispense it
Just keeps getting crazier. No if he does they will say, it's because they didn't give it to him sooner and if he lives, more people will do this.
I don't live in Ohio but I know West Chester… because they have an Ikea.
Yeah. I have a few friends from West Chester. They've dealing with their anti-mask Trump-supporter family members for over a year now.
Well technically it isn't him who has asked for this treatment is it?
Nope, judges have immunity for judicial acts, no matter how stupid:
Stump v. Sparkman - Wikipedia
It's not enough for these people to take up all our medical resources, they have to find more ways to burden society with their bullshit.
I just had to take my daughter to the ER (for something not related to COVID) and was told there was a 6 hour wait and that I should drive to another area hospital. Fuck these antivax shitheads to hell and back.
I just had to take my daughter to the ER (for something not related to COVID) and was told there was a 6 hour wait and that I should drive to another area hospital. Fuck these antivax shitheads to hell and back.
How can a random quack doctor dictate how an ICU treats its patient? Just bizarre.
I would (rightfully) lose my license in UK if I tried something like this.
I would (rightfully) lose my license in UK if I tried something like this.
They should allow people to try putting a bullet through their skull, it could work at getting rid of the virus. Seriously, people are too god damn stupid.
UPDATE
Judge denies request for West Chester Hospital to treat COVID-19 patient with Ivermectin
A Butler County judge has denied a preliminary injunction request that would have ordered West Chester hospital to treat a COVID-19 patient with Ivermectin, despite a CDC warning against it.
www.wlwt.com
Update to the case. Judge ruled in favor of the hospital.
Can she have Dr. Fred come and administer it since he's the one who prescribed it? That way the hospital isn't liable.
From the article... "The Smiths received a prescription for Ivermectin from Dr. Fred Wagshul, a pulmonologist out of Centerville. Wagshul said in a courtroom Thursday that he knew little about the patient at the time he wrote a prescription for Ivermectin."Judge denies request for West Chester Hospital to treat COVID-19 patient with Ivermectin
A Butler County judge has denied a preliminary injunction request that would have ordered West Chester hospital to treat a COVID-19 patient with Ivermectin, despite a CDC warning against it.
Update to the case. Judge ruled in favor of the hospital.
This dic/doc should have his license removed.
Take two prayer warriors on facebook and some essential oils and call me in the morning.
Don't trust the BiG Ph$$$rmA! /s
In this news article, Judge Oster said that if Ivermectin is still to be used, it would have to be at a hospital where Dr Fred Wagshul could do it himself.
from linked article said:
