Does it even work against Limitless (as in, in a fight where there is no Mahoraga helping him)
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Jujutsu Kaisen I Manga OT I Twenty Finger Death Punch
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Does it even work against Limitless (as in, in a fight where there is no Mahoraga helping him)
Yeah, because of the strategy used.
With the initial clash, Sukuna does an open domain like again Makora.
and he used the arrow there as well so clearly after the initial domain when Gojo's domain collapsed then the arrow strat was in play.
Limitless is no longer in play because Gojo's domain collapsed and we're talking about before Gojo regen his CT.
Maybe, but Sukuna more than likely wasn't going to use it since he thought he was overwhelmingly winning with just his regular dismantle and cleave from MS. And by the time he would have realized he needed it he was locked out of using it.
It was pointed out to me recently that Lightning's translation (which is the most accurate we have) has Gojo saying this:
Which pretty firmly implies Gojo thinks that Sukuna couldn't beat him without 10 shadows, although it still would've been close (and the first half of the fight was very close. It's only after Gojo read Sukuna during the domain battle that he started decisively pulling ahead)
I think the part about him "holding back" was Sukuna saving his reincarnation for the partial refresh after the Gojo fight. Especially if Sukuna could combine the Heian era form with 10 shadows.
Which pretty firmly implies Gojo thinks that Sukuna couldn't beat him without 10 shadows, although it still would've been close (and the first half of the fight was very close. It's only after Gojo read Sukuna during the domain battle that he started decisively pulling ahead)
I think the part about him "holding back" was Sukuna saving his reincarnation for the partial refresh after the Gojo fight. Especially if Sukuna could combine the Heian era form with 10 shadows.
I guess you can chalk it up to cockiness but then again I think that Sukuna's strategy was already put in place way before.
It doesn't really make sense to use a strategy that was so risky when really MS + oven flame was such a sure fire hit AND he knew that the whole team of jobbers was gonna rush afterward.
Literally in the case he goes for that, the battle is over super quickly and he has his full bag to dismantle every opp.
"But what if he wasn't sure his domain was stronger or something?"
He knew from the moment go that his domain was going for the large area, it's extremely unlikely that any opponent would have gone for a similar open domain. so regardless Sukuna had to have known that whatever happens and whoever was the opponent he would win the 1st domain clash easily because of how unorthodox that was.
I'm saying in general, not that specific fight
All this shit with the domain rules and what not is going over my head lol, especially with the Gojo fight being ages ago
I'm just basically asking does any of this give any merit to Gojo's weird claim he probably would've lost even without 10S
It was pointed out to me recently that Lightning's translation (which is the most accurate we have) has Gojo saying this:
Which pretty firmly implies Gojo thinks that Sukuna couldn't beat him without 10 shadows, although it still would've been close (and the first half of the fight was very close. It's only after Gojo read Sukuna during the domain battle that he started decisively pulling ahead)
I think the part about him "holding back" was Sukuna saving his reincarnation for the partial refresh after the Gojo fight. Especially if Sukuna could combine the Heian era form with 10 shadows.
I see, interesting...
I think Sukuna wanted to learn the world cut because Limitless is a probably regardless of the generation and having reliable way to bypass it is useful.
Right the lightning translation sounds like he needed the ten shadows to win
Right the lightning translation sounds like he needed the ten shadows to win
I kinda think it does because of this specific oven flame thing.
It's basically a huge AOE flame inside the domain that crushed Jogo the volcano curse.
In a no hold barred fight between Gojo and Heian Sukuna,
both do Domain and when basically when Gojo domain crumble, Sukuna throw the arrow and GG.
Since Gojo's domain is toast, he doesn't have Limitless so he cannot dodge the domain wide arrow.
From everything we've been told in this story, this is the scenario of how Gojo loses that fight.
Without 10S, Sukuna doesn't really have any other alternative to bypass Limitless anyway.
I'd argue Sukuna's cockiness is inherent to the battle since he didn't even think he was taking damage from UV until after he lost his domain. Sukuna wouldn't use Furnace until after it was too late since he is always going to be trying to prove a point with this fight. (That he's overwhelmingly superior)
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Adn that's where I show my preferences,
cocky villains are overdone because it's always the same shit with them, they could win but they prefer playing with their food so much they end up dead and look stupid.
Doesn't even make sense!
What do you do when you're high level in a RPG and you encounter mooks?
You nuke them with the flashiest display possible, what are they gonna do anyway?
You're the strongest so it doesn't matter that they know the depth of your bag or not.
A quick display of overwhelming superiority is especially important considering that everyone knew that the fight was on tv after all.
Sorcerers are people. I don't know how this even makes sense as a generalized statement. This just kinda seems like a handwave for an overdone antagonist archetype
that makes even less sense,
what is more selfish than a big bully harassing weaker people with their big stick?
reminder that the culling games take place like a week or ten days after Shibuya and is all the span of a few days I think. The month timeskip is after that. Totally would make sense that Todo is still recovering and hasn't figured out how to regain access to boogie woogie yet. Also says that he was training with Okkotsu during that month to experiment with the technique.
biggest death flag in history
i feel the same. sure, it's a convenient way to get sukuna out of sticky scnearios, but it also shows his mastery over jujutsu that he's able to swiftly change the conditions of his technique. Gojo was able to do it too.
i don't mind the explanation for Todo being kept a secret lol
True considering Sukuna used Domain Expansion on a frikken FingerBearer, and cubed Himiko.
But part of Sukunas character and it has been mentioned many times. He enjoys the fight....if he thinks you can entertain him he will get as much out of the meal as he can.
During Gojo and Jogo he outright expressed that he was enjoying the fighting.
People he doesn't think are worth the time he wastes easily Yorusu he clapped without even thinking, Granite Cannon guy he walked right through.
During the Kashimo afterlife Sukuna even explained that there are so many flavors of human he would love to experience the variety, many times we've seen him try get rid of people he thinks aren't worth the hassle quickly while playing with those he thinks will be fun.
Sukuna has no real end goal like most villains....he is literally here just to have fun killing sorcerers.
hmm, bad take, the writing level of this inudstry isnt below or above any other industry, the complaints are always there no matter what you watch/read
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Sukuna getting his ass beat only to call Uraume, so they have their own Boogie Woogie tag team battle. Fire and Ice baby.
Sukuna hasn't exactly been losing in hand to hand combat.
And now it's just Yuji and Todo?
When the narrator points out that Sukuna might be in CT burnout I was thinking so what?
Dis ninja ain't losing hand to hand vs Yuji and Todo?
He was losing to Yuji in hand to hand combat just before he threw up that domain though.
He would have the Ox, Bunnies, Toad, Divine dog, Elephant, Nue left I think.
Bunny Big Raga is back on the menu, I believe 100% in Gege's ability to glaze Big Su