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gcwy

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Oct 27, 2017
8,685
Houston, TX
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City was set 16 years in the past when it was released in 2002, it's depiction of an 80s Miami feeling like a bygone era, a world away. But it's now been 16 years since the release of Vice City.

I had this horrifying thought while explaining the concept of "music that existed before you were born" to my kids the other day. I'd remembered some of my favourite "old" music is from Vice City's Emotion soundtrack, then went pale as I did the math.

Horror soon gave way to daydreaming, though, as I wondered what a "retro" GTA set in the year 2002 might actually look (and more importantly sound) like. I know GTA 3 was released only a year earlier in 2001, but it's hardly a time capsule of the turn of millennium; it's off-brand soundtrack and character design wasn't as interested in representing the times as they were looking like a Michael Mann movie.

You've got a nation still raw and wounded from the events of 9/11, with all the horrors that day would set in motion only just starting to gather steam, yet there was still also a touch of the last days of summer about it, as the West drained its last reserves of turn-of-the-millennium optimism before settling into the dark timeline we're currently living through.

Revisiting those days, reflected in GTA's trademark TV and radio ads, billboards and mission themes, would be fascinating, especially since it's a time period so ripe for parody. Imagine all the frosted tips! Brick phones! Shiny jeans! Boot cuts! Nu metal! It was such an earnest time. There was terror but there was also still hope. We all thought the environment could be saved, that Nazis had been defeated in 1945, that the worst that could happen in an election were some hanging chads, that the internet was a force for good.

Some 2000's soundtrack suggestions and more: https://kotaku.com/a-retro-grand-theft-auto-would-now-be-set-in-the-year-2-1828670848

Would you play a GTA set 16 years ago from now? I would. I was very young in those days, it was a different era for me than for many people here.

But why did the 80s feel so long ago back in the 2000s than the 2000s do now?
 

Android 18

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Jun 26, 2018
154
The difference I feel is that the 80s are remembered fondly, and some of the music and style still hold a special place for people today. As someone who graduated high school in the early 2000s, our era sucked. The music doesn't hold a special place in my heart, and it just feels like an embarrassing period.
 

neilyadig

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Nov 13, 2017
588
The difference I feel is that the 80s are remembered fondly, and some of the music and style still hold a special place for people today. As someone who graduated high school in the early 2000s, our era sucked. The music doesn't hold a special place in my heart, and it just feels like an embarrassing period.
I think some people who's 80s is your 00s, felt the same way.
 

8bit

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Oct 27, 2017
5,390
San Andreas was what, 2003? I think that would scratch such an itch.
 
Jul 17, 2018
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"You know, I wondered what a retro GTA would be like and I wrote an article about it"

Kotaku always brings the hard-hitting journalism.
 

Shark

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Oct 28, 2017
8,126
Raleigh, NC
2002 isn't distinct and a lot of the post-9/11 themes and satire is super prevalent in GTA IV which was lampooning a Bush-era America already.
 

Barrylocke

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Oct 25, 2017
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But why did the 80s feel so long ago back in the 2000s than the 2000s do now?
One reason I've heard for the 80s and early 90s feeling drastically different to the 2000s vs those times and now is because the accessibility of the internet and other technologies created a major paradigm shift for people with access.
 

Cranster

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Oct 25, 2017
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The soundtrack would encompass Avril Lavinge, Puddle of Mudd, Creed, Britney Spears and Nickelback...
The 2000's sucked hard for music.
 

UsoEwin

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Jul 14, 2018
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It feel like societal changes from the 80's to the 00's were a lot greater than the 00's to the 10's
 

SolidSnakex

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Oct 25, 2017
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The soundtrack would encompass Avril Lavinge, Puddle of Mudd, Creed, Britney Spears and Nickelback...
The 2000's sucked hard for music.

Just did a search for the Billboard top 20 for 2002


Yeah...no thanks.
 

TheAvatar

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Nov 4, 2017
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a lot of 2000s in terms of style and music was kinda plain and boring? idk i wouldn't really be interested.
 

Erevador

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is the era that I mentally associate with this guy:
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Dreamboum

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Oct 28, 2017
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video games were good in that era, other than that it's just more of the same. not even post-9/11 has over to this day
 

Anth0ny

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Oct 25, 2017
47,004
yup

my go to "horrifying realization of time passing by" is the time between 80s and vice city < time between vice city and now

2002 GTA would be absolute booty, and that's like peak nostalgia years for me. 80s miami vice aesthetic and 90s straight outta compton aesthetic shit on ANYTHING they can think of from the early 2000s.

I'd much rather they did 70s, or 80s again, or 90s again.
 

Shroki

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Oct 27, 2017
5,911
yup

my go to "horrifying realization of time passing by" is the time between 80s and vice city < time between vice city and now

2002 GTA would be absolute booty, and that's like peak nostalgia years for me. 80s miami vice aesthetic and 90s straight outta compton aesthetic shit on ANYTHING they can think of from the early 2000s.

I'd much rather they did 70s, or 80s again, or 90s again.

It's moot anyway. GTA has moved on from movie homage and parody.

GTA VI is very likely to be the third straight contemporary setting.
 

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Dr. Mario

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Oct 27, 2017
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Fake horror is when you realize a game is closer to its retro stylings than the current day.

Real horror is when a guy who has kids writes about music before he was born and it's the eighties.

Though looking at his pictures and everything he seems to be the same age as me, so maybe it was just confusingly worded
 

larrybud

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Oct 25, 2017
716
that would be fucking awesome. they could play around with a ton of cultural stuff, which of course is right in their wheelhouse.
 

Patison

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Oct 27, 2017
575
We can argue, we can call each other names but I'm sure we can all agree on one thing:

Every game needs Sk8er Boi in the soundtrack.
 

Batatina

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Oct 25, 2017
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Edinburgh, UK
I think the 00 and the 10s merge together a bit in terms of culture. The 90s would be the more meaningful retro representation as it has a firmly different feel. Maybe it's because that's when I was a kid...
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Fake horror is when you realize a game is closer to its retro stylings than the current day.

Real horror is when a guy who has kids writes about music before he was born and it's the eighties.

Though looking at his pictures and everything he seems to be the same age as me, so maybe it was just confusingly worded
What? You do realise how long ago the 80's were right? It's entirely feasible to have kids and not be born in the 80's
 

sfortunato

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Oct 25, 2017
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Italy
The difference I feel is that the 80s are remembered fondly, and some of the music and style still hold a special place for people today. As someone who graduated high school in the early 2000s, our era sucked. The music doesn't hold a special place in my heart, and it just feels like an embarrassing period.

For people that graduated high school in 2013-2015, early 2000s are a source of great nostalgia.
 

Aurc

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Oct 28, 2017
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The difference I feel is that the 80s are remembered fondly, and some of the music and style still hold a special place for people today. As someone who graduated high school in the early 2000s, our era sucked. The music doesn't hold a special place in my heart, and it just feels like an embarrassing period.
Yup.

Everyone wants another GTA set in the 80s, even if they weren't even alive back then. Nobody really wants an early 2000s GTA, and I was a kid during that period.