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Mark Zuckerberg envisions a billion people in his metaverse spending hundreds of dollars each

SABO.

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I'm so confused by companies betting big on the Metaverse.

From what I've seen of so called metaverses, I would rather play GTA 5 online, Fortnite, Minecraft or even VR Chat.

Are video game companies tripping out that big corporations are making shitty versions of games that already kinda exist?
 
Rune Walsh

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But can he envision deez nuts?

Also, that HyperReality video triggered my anxiety pretty badly. There is way too much happening.
 
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PinkSpider

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In a World of people balancing food and energy bills lol (And a World which looks to be getting worse with climate change and all). Assuming he's got a few yes men analysts just nodding and taking their money.
 
Shalashaska

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I still don't understand what the purpose of the Metaverse is supposed to be. So far the only applications seem to be selling digital garbage, scraping my usage data and having virtual meetings? It's like they're only using the worst parts of the real world as inspiration for their digital one. Why am I supposed to be excited for this?
 
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Shalashaska said:
I still don't understand what the purpose of the Metaverse is supposed to be. So far the only applications seem to be selling digital garbage, scraping my usage data and having virtual meetings? It's like they're only using the worst parts of the real world as inspiration for their digital one. Why am I supposed to be excited for this?
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The purpose of it is to fill a void over "what is next." We've had phones, tablets and other screens for years. There needs to be something new and innovative to look forward to. The metaverse by way of VR and AR is that next thing. I do think it can be pretty immersive, and can see the use case for it in building connections via remote teams for work, but the use case kind of stops there. Until we have a really amazing and functional AR device (or a VR device with AR passthrough), this won't really be a big significant thing beyond enterprise use cases. He's said it will take 10 years, and he's probably right about that.
 
SwampBastard

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I don't have a huge social circle or anything, but I haven't talked to or otherwise heard from a single soul who has any interest in this whatsoever.
 
Joeyjoejoeshabadoo

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SABO. said:
I'm so confused by companies betting big on the Metaverse.

From what I've seen of so called metaverses, I would rather play GTA 5 online, Fortnite, Minecraft or even VR Chat.

Are video game companies tripping out that big corporations are making shitty versions of games that already kinda exist?
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It's why you should be concerned about the metaverse in the first place. Big corporations want your data and facebook is the biggest data dealer in town. If facebook can get you into an ecosystem where all your purchase habits, hobbies, and other interests are available on that platform then they can provide that data to corporations to make even more money from you. The metaverse future is a fucking nightmare.
 
Quample

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SABO. said:
I'm so confused by companies betting big on the Metaverse.

From what I've seen of so called metaverses, I would rather play GTA 5 online, Fortnite, Minecraft or even VR Chat.

Are video game companies tripping out that big corporations are making shitty versions of games that already kinda exist?
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Well now imagine if you had one character that could play in all of those games, and it was a character that only you had, and you "embodied" that character.

Persistent, unique identity/belongings across any game on the platform. Meta wants to create the market on their platform and take a cut.

And I think era seriously underestimates the power behind this concept (or just don't understand it), whether its Meta or some other company that perfects it, who knows.

But right now Meta is ahead of the game in the immersive tech landscape, and thats where this concept is meant to thrive, primarily because of the "embodiment" part I previously mentioned. You are your character, in a sense, that you can't be in standard gaming.
 
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I am one of the people who spend at least 1 hour per day in VR. I used to play cricket in my youth and with life, it's impossible to find people/time to actually go and play cricket for 3-4 hours. With VR and Oculus, I can play Cricket game which is almost 90% close to reality. Plus it's also my workout routine and am back to ideal weight thanks to it. We have tournaments, friends, etc in the game, and the thrill of playing in stadiums you see on TV is real. I feel that with metaverse, people will be able to do things that they wish to do without really wasting the overhead time to get to the activity and money to do the real activity. Hence, I am personally very excited about better VR technologies and a serviceable metaverse to meet my friends afterward.
 
Netherscourge

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Spending on what?

Is there a Facebook store I don't know about?

And what do VR headsets have to do with anything?
 
AlgusUnderdunk

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Huh, weird. I envision Mark Zuckerberg in a cardboard box in his underpants screaming angrily at a can of spaghettios.
 
Aiii

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I still don't understand what Metaverse actually improves upon anything that already exists.
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I mean, it's simple really. It's a place where there's zero regulation, the entire thing is controlled completely by commercial parties, you can freely track, map, and collect any data you please and there's absolutely zero incentive to make anything better for anyone except the pockets of the controlling parties.

It's like the internet, but even more commercialised. Simple. Great. Buy Meta stocks. Please. Everyone loves VR. Buy Meta Stock. Before Facebook is officially MySpace'd, please, buy stock. Give money. Buy stock. I can throw in at least ten buzzwords if it helps you buying Meta stock. Please?
 
Dust

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It's...literally...nearly 20 years old concept of Second Life...
why are they all acting like they invented fucking wheel?
 
SABO.

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Quample said:
Well now imagine if you had one character that could play in all of those games, and it was a character that only you had, and you "embodied" that character.

Persistent, unique identity/belongings across any game on the platform. Meta wants to create the market on their platform and take a cut.

And I think era seriously underestimates the power behind this concept (or just don't understand it), whether its Meta or some other company that perfects it, who knows.

But right now Meta is ahead of the game in the immersive tech landscape, and thats where this concept is meant to thrive, primarily because of the "embodiment" part I previously mentioned. You are your character, in a sense, that you can't be in standard gaming.
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Don't need to imagine it, I've experienced it in Decentraland and Sandbox. They suck.

The ultimate goal of Metaverse seems to be to make me part with my money.
 
Soap

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He can envision whatever he wants, but it is not happening any time soon. The rising inflation isn't going to limit purchases this year, and I would honestly think we will be at least a decade before any kind of spending power returns(if it returns at all at this rate).
 
RedNalgene

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I can understand wanting the same avatar in all your games. That's pretty cool. But I'm not sure I get wanting to spend social time in this virtual world. Like…am I going to want to go to a virtual bar or restaurant instead of going to one in real life? And I think it would be incredibly weird to have a work meeting using avatars instead of actual video? What if my avatar was really wacky…do I have a more "real" one? Maybe I'm just not clued into it yet and will get sucked in when it's more fully baked but right now I'm a little confused
 
squeakywheel

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I can dream too, Zuck. But I really hope there aren't a billion people with cash to burn (suckers) giving more money to one if the most immoral people around. I hope this meta dream turns into a nightmare and scares people away.
 
SilentSoldier

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I saw a commercial for Mets that was trying to make targeted ads seem like a good thing and I couldn't roll my eyes hard enough.
 
SeanM

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Rye-soakedhuskofaman said:
People have been trying to make entertainment more immersive for over 100 years... The metaverse has the potential to do that if they can actually nail AR/VR presence. I think we're probably 10-20 years away from the technology but I'm wrong about these things all the time and expected level 4 self-driving cars by 2025.
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I think AR will be embraced for certain things, like turn signal overlays for walking/driving directions and seeing how furniture will look in your home etc. But I don't see it taking off as some entertainment hub where people spend all their time in constantly like these companies are hoping for.

I feel like very few people are willing to wear bulky glasses and goggles that have to be recharged constantly, especially if you wear prescription glasses already.
 

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Willenium envisions a billion people farting on Mark Zuckerberg's grave after he unfortunately drowns in a mishap involving a low-flow toilet.
 
Dr Doom

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One thing. He's pouring money on VR advancement.

But he needs to worry about TIKTOK first
 
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Duxxy3

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Zuckerberg is giving me some crazy Montgomery Burns vibes now. Completely disconnected from reality.
 
Ernest

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Out of touch billionaire.

I mean, that's redundant - billionaires aren't known to be "in touch" with jack shit, but he seems more oblivious than most.
 
Xavien

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Atleast we get significant advances in VR headsets and technologies, even if this metaverse stuff is total bullshit.
 
Patapuf

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Quample said:
You're missing the entire strategy. It's not just to create a game/space where they can buy/purchase things, its to use those things in other people's games. They're already doing it in crude form; multiple VR games use Meta's avatar platform, and it works quite well, tbh. Even though they aren't remarkable avatars yet, they're built specifically for the platform, and can just be plugged into games.

In other words, they're building the ability to have a market that spans between games, as long as those games are on their platform and opt in to the market. And the market will inevitably have user generated content (like VRChat) with buying and selling, where Meta takes a cut of the transactions.

Meta is building a persistent digital economy platform. It won't be the only one, but it will be a big one and an early one. You'd think more people on era would understand what Meta was doing, even if they don't like how they're doing it.
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I think people understand this perfectly well. But this only works if what's on sale is worth buying. So far, nothing META has shown is worth buying over the multiple metaverses that already exist.

Meta is putting the cart before the horse. That's rarely a winning strategy. Anyone even slightly familiar with internet platforms and big social games knows that it requires quite a bit more than lots of money and shiny tech (and tbh, META doesn't even have that) to build a successful place people are willing to spend money on.
 
MrKlaw

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It's easy to be snarky but people spend millions (billions?) on cosmetics in games now. Why wouldn't people be willing to pay for cosmetics in VR (assuming it gains popularity more than now). Heck in VR chat you can pay a lot for someone to custom make you a well made skin

Yes NFTs are bullshit probably but doesn't mean there isn't money to be spent or made here
 
SigSig

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I absolutely would spend hundreds of dollars in social vr. thousands, probably. not in facebooks social vr though. if only VR chat was more of an platform to build on instead of a game that's hopelessly overextended...
 
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