PCGamer: Anthem's conversation system allows for two dialogue choices

Deleted member 14192 · Sep 1, 2018

Forgoing the complex conversation wheel of previous BioWare games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, Anthem will only allow for two dialogue choices in conversations. The two choices aren't aligned with a morality system of any kind, but do differ in tone slightly.

When asked why the system was simplified for Anthem, executive producer Mark Darrah replied, "We are showing this to an audience that is not used to these kind of decisions and conversations. We wanted to keep it simpler, but we also don't want to present you with any false choices."

Fort Tarsis is where you'll do most of the talking, and from a first-person perspective as opposed to the third-person javelin camera in the shared world. Conversations pull the player in close and provide supplemental information about who you're talking to, whether they're tied to a political faction, and whatever back story BioWare deems important

https://www.pcgamer.com/anthems-conversation-system-allows-for-two-dialogue-choices/
A bit sad seeing the wheel go, but maybe the writing will make up for it...

pathf1nder said:

LordAmused · Sep 1, 2018

Bioware is dead.
RIP.

DorkLord54 · Sep 1, 2018

I mean, that's basically been Mass Effect since 3, so I was expecting it. I was actually surprised DAI didn't do it.

SturokBGD · Sep 1, 2018

I am seething with generic gamer rage.

Razor Mom · Sep 1, 2018

Holy shit. "differ in tone slightly".

This is the pinnacle of the interactive medium lads.

Deleted member 1105 · Sep 1, 2018

So the options are yes and no?

Bessy67 · Sep 1, 2018

I mean, this seems far more of a third person shooter than an RPG so it makes sense that they'd simplify the conversation system

Sabretooth · Sep 1, 2018

BioWare slimming down conversation choices and RPG mechanics, while Assassin's Creed adds them. What a time to be alive.

Ibuki said:
So the options are yes and no?

Judging by the article, it won't even be that. It will be "Yes" and "Sure".

Alienous · Sep 1, 2018

"Yeah, I'll accept your mission"
"I'll accept your mission, but fuck you"

Azzanadra · Sep 1, 2018

Ibuki said:
So the options are yes and no?

Yes and (Sarcastic)

Cocolina · Sep 1, 2018

This game better play like a dream because it doesn't have anything else going for it

olag · Sep 1, 2018

~Evolution is a mystery

Derrick01 · Sep 1, 2018

At least Bethesda pretended to offer more in fallout 4. Even pretending to be a RPG takes some effort. I'll stop there because it feels like I'm praising FO4 and that makes me queasy.

But like I said in the other thread this is just a continuation of Bioware's casualization of the genre that they started with Kotor. Their next game will probably drop this stuff altogether and just be a cinematic story or something.

SchrodingerC · Sep 1, 2018

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Riveting

We wanted to keep it simpler, but we also don't want to present you with any false choices.

The benefit of the 2 choice system, I'll give them that.

jesu · Sep 1, 2018

I bet this is taken out of context.

We are showing this to an audience that is not used to these kind of decisions and conversations. We wanted to keep it simpler, but we also don't want to present you with any false choices.

keeping it simpler for the audience at pax west I reckon.

dreamobserver · Sep 1, 2018

I guess it's better that they admit it then try to fake it.

dmr87 · Sep 1, 2018

One or two, yes or no.

saenima · Sep 1, 2018

1. 'Sure. I'm always up for killing some mcguffins.'

2. 'Fine. I'll kill some fucking mcguffins.'

Bhonar · Sep 1, 2018

I mean this is a straight shooter game, wtf do people expect? This is not some traditional party RPG.

So there's nothing wrong with this.

Rathorial · Sep 1, 2018

Well then they better actually make those 2 options count I guess. Honestly, I'm still not expecting much for Anthem's story. I just hope the actual quest design and combat are continually fun, because that's usually all I need for a co-op game.

Durante · Sep 1, 2018

Conor419 · Sep 1, 2018

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Anthem is going to be a catastrophe

Reinhard · Sep 1, 2018

Why even bother with dialogue choices at all if it is just a slight difference in tone and no bearing at all.

808s & Villainy · Sep 1, 2018

Alienous said:
"Yeah, I'll accept your mission"
"I'll accept your mission, but fuck you"

LOL

Deleted member 1105 · Sep 1, 2018

Bhonar said:
I mean this is a straight shooter game, wtf do people expect? This is not some traditional party RPG.

So there's nothing wrong with this.

You mean the game that is being advertised as an Action-RPG right?

Derrick01 · Sep 1, 2018

Durante said:

"Ugh all that reading. Just let me shoot people!"

tuxfool · Sep 1, 2018

Derrick01 said:
At least Bethesda pretended to offer more in fallout 4. Even pretending to be a RPG takes some effort. I'll stop there because it feels like I'm praising FO4 and that makes me queasy.

But like I said in the other thread this is just a continuation of Bioware's casualization of the genre that they started with Kotor. Their next game will probably drop this stuff altogether and just be a cinematic story or something.

We wanted to keep it simpler, but we also don't want to present you with any false choices.

If this is true, and the choice is impactful, it beats FO4, where all the choices were false.

Razgriz417 · Sep 1, 2018

yup, def not an rpg anymore, just a new loot shooter with lite rpg elements

Deleted member 5864 · Sep 1, 2018

RPG of the year right here.

Conor419 said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Anthem is going to be a catastrophe

They are making Destiny. It will be fine. EA's stock will continue to rise while Bioware finish diluting themselves into another skim milk developer.

Stabi · Sep 1, 2018

Durante said:

I played Baldur's and icewind Dale when I was like 10. I would have no patience for this kind of game anymore I think. What have I evolved into?

VectorPrime · Sep 1, 2018

People are going to blame EA but Bioware died by their own hand.

Bhonar · Sep 1, 2018

Ibuki said:
You mean the game that is being advertised as an Action-RPG right?

Advertised how?? I know what I see with my own eyes in the trailers that have been shown. It's a straight shooter plain and simple.

I don't care what words they use to market the game. Use your own eyes and see it. Don't just listen to what a company says

Calibro · Sep 1, 2018

Durante said:

F

Jiraiya · Sep 1, 2018

So much angst and salt over this title.

Razor Mom · Sep 1, 2018

Hey rookie, you ready to do the thing?

"Yes!"

"Yeah."

The choice is yours.

Dennis8K · Sep 1, 2018

Press A to dialog.

Aomber · Sep 1, 2018

Remember guys, Bioware says this is an evolution from past games!

Fairy Godmother · Sep 1, 2018

Yes and Sarcastic Yes.

Van Bur3n · Sep 1, 2018

Sometimes the illusion of choice isn't so bad, Bioware.

saenima · Sep 1, 2018

Bioware has been trying to paint what is clearly a Destiny clone as a 'Bioware RPG' and i don't really see the point. Anyone who actually cares about that is not fooled by this nonsense. Just make what you wanna make and let the game speak for itself.

Deleted member 1105 · Sep 1, 2018

Bhonar said:
Advertised how?? I know what I see with my own eyes in the trailers that have been shown. It's a straight shooter plain and simple.

I don't care what words they use to market the game. Use your own eyes and see it. Don't just listen to what a company says

https://www.ea.com/games/anthem
"Anthem™ invites you to experience a cooperative Action-RPG set in a new and mysterious world from BioWare™ and EA."

Dennis8K · Sep 1, 2018

we also don't want to present you with any false choices

Finally, the confession years in the making.

J_Viper · Sep 1, 2018

Cocolina said:
This game better play like a dream because it doesn't have anything else going for it

Even though Bioware has been slipping in every other regard, they have been improving their shooting mechanics.

I expect that aspect to be this games saving grace. Which sounds familiar...

Have a Nice Day · Sep 1, 2018

Ibuki said:
So the options are yes and no?

Red and blue, no green.

fracas · Sep 1, 2018

Durante said:

While I also lament the lack of dialogue options in modern RPGs, this swings too far in the other direction. I want to make meaningful choices, but I don't want to read a novel while talking to NPCs.

tuxfool · Sep 1, 2018

I should also point out that this choice has been the BioWare MO for a while. Most other dialogue options were usually expository.

Bhonar · Sep 1, 2018

Ibuki said:
https://www.ea.com/games/anthem
"Anthem™ invites you to experience a cooperative Action-RPG set in a new and mysterious world from BioWare™ and EA."

And what about the other part of my post about using your own eyes to see the trailers and determine things for yourself??

Eolz · Sep 1, 2018

Reminds me of this old pic

Derrick01 said:
"Ugh all that reading. Just let me shoot people!"

Don't make me sad.

DrMoguera · Sep 1, 2018

It's just really hard to muster up any enthusiasm for this game, and Bioware used to be one of my favorite developers of all time. I hope this game doesn't sink them and they can turn things around.

Richietto · Sep 1, 2018

Whats the point of yes and sure? Come on now Bioware. Kinda sucks that this developer known for RPG's is pretty much not making RPG's at this point.

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