Up until the end of 2019 BMW was the only manufacturer to charge a yearly subscription fee for apple car play so honestly this tracks.
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Peloton bricks treadmills for non-subscribers
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When it comes to gym equipment less is better 99% of time, I say this as someone who worked at the gym.
You can tune out with a phone/mp3 player.
It's like when a fridge has WiFi.
You're paying for the classes. As a bike owner, I'll say there's a ton of variety (I'm guessing it's the same for the treadmill).
Or do what lots of people do and just sub on the app and use any treadmill/spin bike
The treadmill was a bad design. My wife wanted one for our gym, but it wasn't practical because it didn't fold up like most treadmills do. But this is the latest in a long string of bad decisions by this company.
I've been considering letting the sub on my bike lapse, popping off the Peloton screen, mounting a regular LCD on there, and just using Apple Fitness instead. At least in that case, I can watch Netflix while I ride if I want to.
I mean, it wasn't that long ago when they were charging for CarPlay and Android Auto access.
I've been considering letting the sub on my bike lapse, popping off the Peloton screen, mounting a regular LCD on there, and just using Apple Fitness instead. At least in that case, I can watch Netflix while I ride if I want to.
I mean, it wasn't that long ago when they were charging for CarPlay and Android Auto access.
Their style of treadmill is relatively unique though--belt vs slats, so I could see why people would want to buy it for design alone. A quick search shows that most competitors are at least twice as expensive.
Legal liability.
If you subscribe you agree to the TOS. If not you don't and they may be held liable for more injuries. Again, this is my speculation, but it sounds very lawyerly. Their rationale that is. Their lawyers are probably forcing this.
I totally don't get it either. I guess it's the motivation or having a sorta personal coach or whatever...but i dunno... netflix motivates/distracts me plenty. :S
perfect. xD
Because their treadmill was found to be unsafe. Recalls and all that. If you use it, it is now at your own risk, but how can they enforce that?
They probably weighed their options. Keep it at just run and, some gets hurt and they get sued. Or disable it completely and just refund the users individually with those non-subscription use cases.
In theory tread lock will be active until a class OR "Just Run" is chosen. If it's like the bike, you have to select "just ride" to start it. You don't just hop on and go. I imagine it is the same for the tread, so I don't get how "just run" needs to be removed in order for the lock to work.
UPDATE:
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www.theverge.com
They're citing technical limitations for this currently and they plan to address it shortly. I'm an engineer so I get that sometimes weird tech debt can result in seemingly ridiculous/malicious outcomes for consumers. This situation is exactly what product managers are for, if they knew this was the result of tech debt then their PR should have gotten waaay out ahead of this with more clarifying information.
Peloton forced its subscription plan on Tread+ owners, but claims a fix is coming
It seemed like the company was locking free users out.
www.theverge.com
They're citing technical limitations for this currently and they plan to address it shortly. I'm an engineer so I get that sometimes weird tech debt can result in seemingly ridiculous/malicious outcomes for consumers. This situation is exactly what product managers are for, if they knew this was the result of tech debt then their PR should have gotten waaay out ahead of this with more clarifying information.
Not really, it was shitty but not as shitty. They were offering a trade up program but before doing so they wanted you to brick the speaker. Not send it in mind you, just brick your speaker so you couldn't sell it or give it away lol
UPDATE:
Peloton forced its subscription plan on Tread+ owners, but claims a fix is coming
It seemed like the company was locking free users out.
They're citing technical limitations for this currently and they plan to address it shortly. I'm an engineer so I get that sometimes weird tech debt can result in seemingly ridiculous/malicious outcomes for consumers. This situation is exactly what product managers are for, if they knew this was the result of tech debt then their PR should have gotten waaay out ahead of this with more clarifying information.
Feels like a startup mistake tho.
3 months
The bike is really nice, and the classes are great and probably worth the subscription (especially if you have multiple people in your household using it).
This move is still awful.
Only a matter of time until our roombas are telling us to pick up that can.
I own the bike and not the treadmill, but there's absolutely no reason to buy either if you aren't going to subscribe to the service. The whole selling point about Peloton are the classes/subscription model. Yes it's pricey, but for what (I personally) get, I think it's a great value although it doesn't hurt that I get a (small) stipend from my job for gym expenses.
That being said, I hope they reverse course on this. I haven't really kept up on the recall stuff since I don't own the tread, but if you don't have the subscription and don't plan on resubbing soon, no reason to keep the tread if you ask me.
That being said, I hope they reverse course on this. I haven't really kept up on the recall stuff since I don't own the tread, but if you don't have the subscription and don't plan on resubbing soon, no reason to keep the tread if you ask me.
Feels like this is ripe for a class action. Taking away a core feature of the product with a software update? Scummy as hell.
I'm pretty sure, cause looking at the original article and the update, it's not even really that the feature was outright removed for non-subscribers.
It's just that anyone using it now needs to have this "Tread Lock" password set first... and you can't set that if you don't subscribe, so you can't use the feature as a result. I'm with Aurongel on this; I can see how this sort of thing happens (need to rush out this change to restrict it ASAP but couldn't also make the lock widely available in time) but they still fucked up PR around it at best.
Exactly how I feel as well. There are far cheaper bikes and treads if you want to ride/run but don't want to be tied to Peloton's classes/instructors.
add me on Peloton btw: j0gi1337 XD
Yeah, but you would think that they could just make a "Just Run" free tier. Yes, people likely bought this treadmill specifically for the full Peloton experience, but what if I suspend my membership for whatever reason? What if I wanted to cancel? What if I'm training for a marathon and only need to run for a few months?
On the plus side, one might be able to find a Peloton Tread for cheap on the secondhand market.
The move from one-time purchases of goods to subscription hellscapes, planned obsolescence / reduced self-servicability in lot of manufacturing, and many devices now connected on the 'internet-of-crap' with dubious privacy and security, has really drove home to me how important it is to be very selective in what I purchase. Not everything has to be high quality and durable, but now I have to be extra careful that these 'premium' brands aren't out to screw the consumer over at the first sign of trouble.
Peloton's atrocious treadmill that eats objects and small people alike, and the subsequent recall / subscription lockdown, is just a symptom of the problem. Rather than designing a quality product with safety in mind, their first instinct when something goes wrong is to leverage their power over these devices to render them inoperable unless you agree to a bunch of legalese designed to save them from liability -- power that they should have never had in the first place. We seriously need much stronger consumer protections for this sort of bullshit: right to repair, right to modify your own hardware as you see fit, and hell now even the right to operate goods that you own.
Peloton's atrocious treadmill that eats objects and small people alike, and the subsequent recall / subscription lockdown, is just a symptom of the problem. Rather than designing a quality product with safety in mind, their first instinct when something goes wrong is to leverage their power over these devices to render them inoperable unless you agree to a bunch of legalese designed to save them from liability -- power that they should have never had in the first place. We seriously need much stronger consumer protections for this sort of bullshit: right to repair, right to modify your own hardware as you see fit, and hell now even the right to operate goods that you own.
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wasn't there stories a couple of weeks back of kids being trapped underneath the treadmills? don't remember them recalling them.
...i just watched the whole dang thing and now it's midnight.
I don't even know what a Peloton is. I had no idea what this thread is about.
God that was such an idiotic product lmao. The nail in the coffin was when someone made a video of themselves cutting one of the Juicero bags and squeezing just as much juice out of the bag with their bare hand. The contents of the bag were already preprocessed to be a damp mush that made it really easy to squeeze juice out of, rendering the entire Juicero device, and therefore concept, completely useless.
Peloton owners have a LOT of disposable income, which means they can afford a hell of a legal team to set up a class action suit here. I bet this decision is reversed within 30 days.
