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Lord Arcadio

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Who else is excited? I'll be watching VGC all weekend. Hope top cut is as diverse as last year.
 

Diamond0892

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Nov 10, 2017
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I'm not an expert of competitive Pokémon, but I like to watch some matches. They are exciting

By the way, in the last years, Masuda has always revealed a surprise in this event. Does anybody know when that usually happens? Like at the beginning, in the last day...
 

GoldStarz

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not an expert of competitive Pokémon, but I like to watch some matches. They are exciting

By the way, in the last years, Masuda has always revealed a surprise in this event. Does anybody know when that usually happens? Like at the beginning, in the last day...
End of the opening ceremony.


Although, that stuff is usually up on their YouTube within a day at most.
 

Mirev

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Jun 8, 2018
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I'm not an expert of competitive Pokémon, but I like to watch some matches. They are exciting

By the way, in the last years, Masuda has always revealed a surprise in this event. Does anybody know when that usually happens? Like at the beginning, in the last day...

Should be in about 3.40 hours if I'm correct
 

Superbadr

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Nov 5, 2017
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Probably the rumored gen 1 megas, but what's megas in a game you can beat with relative ease with an unevolved team?
 

KillstealWolf

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wonder what the announcement will be this time..

Probably whatever that new Pokemon in let's go. Hopefully it's not something unoriginal like MewThree or MewZero or similar.

Personally I hope for a Smash Ultimate new Pokemon character reveal, something from Gen 7 perhaps like Decidueye, Lycantoc Dusk or Tapu Koko.
 

Diamond0892

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Nov 10, 2017
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Haven't Megas already been confirmed?

Mega evolutions have been confirmed, but only the already existing ones.

There are some "rumors" talking about trademarks of Pokemon names that may indicate that new Mega Pokémon are being introduced in the games, including Golem, Macham, Arbok, Weezing, Raichu, Jolteon, Vaporen and Flareon. However, that's just a rumor
 

KillstealWolf

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Mega evolutions have been confirmed, but only the already existing ones.

There are some "rumors" talking about trademarks of Pokemon names that may indicate that new Mega Pokémon are being introduced in the games, including Golem, Macham, Arbok, Weezing, Raichu, Jolteon, Vaporen and Flareon. However, that's just a rumor
Said rumour list also had Hitmontop on the list, which isn't in let's go because apparently we can't have Pokemon past those in Kanto (although megas and alolans are ok?) so, doesn't seem likely.
 

Sandfox

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Oct 25, 2017
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I haven't been paying attention to the current meta so I have no idea what to expect.

I might try to watch some TCG matches this year in addition to the normal VGC stuff.
 

Diamond0892

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Said rumour list also had Hitmontop on the list, which isn't in let's go because apparently we can't have Pokemon past those in Kanto (although megas and alolans are ok?) so, doesn't seem likely.

In the Twitter account I read it, it included Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan (I didn't want to name all of them), but I don't remember Hitmontop being included in that list, so I don't know...

Again, that's just a rumor, so it can perfectly be fake. Anyways, I'm excited for the announcement, whatever it ends up being!
 

ILikeFeet

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Oct 25, 2017
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There is no rumor. Basing announcements off of trademarks is just asking for disappointment.

Anyway, excited for this year, though I'll admit the meta feels stale to me at this point. Aren't there supposed to be legendaries this year? Or is that next year?
 

Zippo

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What were the announcements in the past again? I remember something about Pokken.

Probably whatever that new Pokemon in let's go. Hopefully it's not something unoriginal like MewThree or MewZero or similar.

Personally I hope for a Smash Ultimate new Pokemon character reveal, something from Gen 7 perhaps like Decidueye, Lycantoc Dusk or Tapu Koko.

TPCI calls the shots on all Pokemon promotion, spin off and/or crossover, so hey, you never know...
Mega evolutions have been confirmed, but only the already existing ones.

There are some "rumors" talking about trademarks of Pokemon names that may indicate that new Mega Pokémon are being introduced in the games, including Golem, Macham, Arbok, Weezing, Raichu, Jolteon, Vaporen and Flareon. However, that's just a rumor

Haven't heard this rumor, interesting...
 

Enrico25

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There is no rumor. Basing announcements off of trademarks is just asking for disappointment.

Anyway, excited for this year, though I'll admit the meta feels stale to me at this point. Aren't there supposed to be legendaries this year? Or is that next year?
There has always been an announcement at the end of the opening ceremony since 2013.
 

Sandfox

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Oct 25, 2017
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The new Mega thing is basically people remembering that we got trademarks back during the gen 6 prerelease that ended up being for Pokemon that got Mega Evolutions(in addition to other like Jynx IIRC) and now see these trademarks and assume that means we're getting more.
 
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Lord Arcadio

Lord Arcadio

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Oct 27, 2017
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Anyway, excited for this year, though I'll admit the meta feels stale to me at this point. Aren't there supposed to be legendaries this year? Or is that next year?

There are sub-legends like Zapdos and Landorus as usual, but none like Mewtwo or Kyogre. It is speculated that next year will be like 2016 with that tier of legends.
 

CarthOhNoes

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Oct 25, 2017
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Probably the rumored gen 1 megas, but what's megas in a game you can beat with relative ease with an unevolved team?

Awesome! You've played it to completion! Are you a tester? What did you use to tackle the Elite 4? Pikachu, Charmander, Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Pidgey and Abra? What moveset did you use on Abra to deal with Bruno's Machamp?

Oh wait, you've not even played it so are just shitposting. I'm sure you could, if you wanted, have beaten Yellow with an unevolved team as well btw. If you're gonna say that unevolved could mean Snorlax, legendary birds, Onix etc - basically Pokemon that can't evolve so are balanced around that then you could say the same about pretty much every Pokemon game.

If you're suggesting that you could complete the game using a team of Caterpies, Weedles, Magikarps etc then fine. Do it and record it to show us all how badass you are. Even then, you probably can and you probably could in the originals too.
 

KillstealWolf

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Oct 27, 2017
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The announcement could also be "Hey, here's Lavender Town and Celadon, look what Giovanni looks like." Let's Go hasn't had the most exciting of reveals.
 

ned_ballad

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm expecting one of these

- Let's Go trailer + new Pokémon announcement
- New Pokken patch or DLC character
- New Pokemon Smash newcomer
- Something else, maybe Pokémon Go related
 

Sandfox

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Oct 25, 2017
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What were the announcements in the past again? I remember something about Pokken.



TPCI calls the shots on all Pokemon promotion, spin off and/or crossover, so hey, you never know...


Haven't heard this rumor, interesting...
2017: Kommo-O Z move and Red GX cards for the TCG
2016:Crabrawler and GX cards for the TCG
2015: Pokken Wii U
2014: Mega Slowbro
2013:Mega Kangaskhan
 

Sandfox

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Oct 25, 2017
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The announcement could also be "Hey, here's Lavender Town and Celadon, look what Giovanni looks like." Let's Go hasn't had the most exciting of reveals.
The reveals tend to be things that they think competitive players will care about. Like when Crabrawler was revealed they showed it fighting Pokemon like Talonflame, Cress, and Lando.
 

WrenchNinja

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Oct 25, 2017
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That battle between Rajan and Wolf in the last tournament where Rajan KO'd his partner with Kartana to get the Beast Boost was some baller shit. Hope something cool happens this time too.

Awesome! You've played it to completion! Are you a tester? What did you use to tackle the Elite 4? Pikachu, Charmander, Squirtle, Bulbasaur, Pidgey and Abra? What moveset did you use on Abra to deal with Bruno's Machamp?

Oh wait, you've not even played it so are just shitposting. I'm sure you could, if you wanted, have beaten Yellow with an unevolved team as well btw. If you're gonna say that unevolved could mean Snorlax, legendary birds, Onix etc - basically Pokemon that can't evolve so are balanced around that then you could say the same about pretty much every Pokemon game.

If you're suggesting that you could complete the game using a team of Caterpies, Weedles, Magikarps etc then fine. Do it and record it to show us all how badass you are. Even then, you probably can and you probably could in the originals too.
What's wrong with you?
 
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Lord Arcadio

Lord Arcadio

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Oct 27, 2017
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I wonder if Masuda will confirm the next VGC year still on 3DS. It makes sense.

Very strange they haven't confirmed that yet, but they put out this info last week:
https://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pok...emon-tournaments/earn-championship-points-vg/

Premier Challenges used to be split into four series (Fall, Winter, Spring, Summer). For 2019, they are splitting them into three instead (Sun, Moon, Ultra). With those names I don't think VGC 2019 will be on Let's Go lol. No one should have expected that anyway. They should just confirm it to get it over with.
 

Sandfox

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Very strange they haven't confirmed that yet, but they put out this info last week:
https://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pok...emon-tournaments/earn-championship-points-vg/

Premier Challenges used to be split into four series (Fall, Winter, Spring, Summer). For 2019, they are splitting them into three instead (Sun, Moon, Ultra). With those names I don't think VGC 2019 will be on Let's Go lol. No one should have expected that anyway. They should just confirm it to get it over with.
They typically announce the ruleset later in the year. For the past two years we got announcements in October and the year before that was December.
 

Sterok

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wonder what the live reaction would be if they announced Let's Go for the main VGC next year.
 

N75

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Oct 25, 2017
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Very strange they haven't confirmed that yet, but they put out this info last week:
https://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pok...emon-tournaments/earn-championship-points-vg/

Premier Challenges used to be split into four series (Fall, Winter, Spring, Summer). For 2019, they are splitting them into three instead (Sun, Moon, Ultra). With those names I don't think VGC 2019 will be on Let's Go lol. No one should have expected that anyway. They should just confirm it to get it over with.
They usually don't move onto the new games until January.

I still expect USUM with restricted legends next year, but there could be some Let's Go event as well.
 

Serpens007

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Oct 31, 2017
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Yay! I will be watching it, I love VGC. This year's Meta is really fun, I hope Incineroar it's in the finals. It's this year's top Pokemon, the only one that took the spot from Landorus
 

CarthOhNoes

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Maybe he's sick tired about the stupid hyperbole continuosly surrounding every discussion about the game. Who knows.

Nailed it. It's crazy how people have already decided that "you can use an unevolved team" to beat the game without even having played it. This isn't Gamefaqs, surely people can voice issues without resorting to silly shitposting. We have no idea how the late game is going to be balanced, so making hyperbolic pronouncements such as the one I quoted previously is ridiculous.
 

Nickgia

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Just introduce a Pokémon that is a super hard counter to the Genies and I'll be happy.
 

Serpens007

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Just introduce a Pokémon that is a super hard counter to the Genies and I'll be happy.

There is only Landorus left in the top spot. Thundurus got a huge nerf in Gen VII. Landorus is just too good, good stats and good typing. At this point, they'd have to nerf ground type to nerf or counter Landorus

Or, you know, buff Ice Type
 

PsionBolt

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Oct 27, 2017
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https://trainertower.com/category/results/
^You can look through here to see the teams that made top cut at live events.

https://3ds-sp.pokemon-gl.com/battle/usum/#wcs
^Battle Spot stats
Thanks for the data!

So from this, we can expect to see a bunch of Landorus, Incineroar, Tapus, Kartana, Mega Charizard, and Cresselia, as well as some other UBs, Snorlax, and some other Megas. But there are a lot of Pokemon on there I wouldn't expect, too -- these random one-off Accelgor, Kanto Raichu, and Clefairy (!?) I'm seeing give me some hope that we'll see a few wacky meta-breakers at this event as well. I remember a random Pachirisu unexpectedly doing really well a few years back, so I guess you never can say what we'll see for sure until it happens.
 

Sandfox

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There is only Landorus left in the top spot. Thundurus got a huge nerf in Gen VII. Landorus is just too good, good stats and good typing. At this point, they'd have to nerf ground type to nerf or counter Landorus

Or, you know, buff Ice Type
Ice would have to basically only be weak to fire for it to not be terrible and even then it would still probably get destroyed.
 

Serpens007

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Thanks for the data!

So from this, we can expect to see a bunch of Landorus, Incineroar, Tapus, Kartana, Mega Charizard, and Cresselia, as well as some other UBs, Snorlax, and some other Megas. But there are a lot of Pokemon on there I wouldn't expect, too -- these random one-off Accelgor, Kanto Raichu, and Clefairy (!?) I'm seeing give me some hope that we'll see a few wacky meta-breakers at this event as well. I remember a random Pachirisu unexpectedly doing really well a few years back, so I guess you never can say what we'll see for sure until it happens.

You can defenitively expect some wacky meta-breakers. Less known or less experienced players that get to this instance are more likely to run a weird team strategy so they can have a bit of an edge against a more experienced player, but there are so many really good players that just know how to take on any team so you may not see those weird strategy in the streaming too much.

At the very least, expect a ton of players with Ally-Switch and anti-Ally Switch strategies. It's one of the top threats to the WC
 

~Fake

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Maybe another broken pokemon like Mega Salamance. Who knows...
 

ILikeFeet

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You can defenitively expect some wacky meta-breakers. Less known or less experienced players that get to this instance are more likely to run a weird team strategy so they can have a bit of an edge against a more experienced player, but there are so many really good players that just know how to take on any team so you may not see those weird strategy in the streaming too much.

At the very least, expect a ton of players with Ally-Switch and anti-Ally Switch strategies. It's one of the top threats to the WC
Weird-team strats tend to not last long since they're usually made for specific instances. If one piece fails to fall into place, it's fast track to losing
 

~Fake

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You can defenitively expect some wacky meta-breakers. Less known or less experienced players that get to this instance are more likely to run a weird team strategy so they can have a bit of an edge against a more experienced player, but there are so many really good players that just know how to take on any team so you may not see those weird strategy in the streaming too much.

At the very least, expect a ton of players with Ally-Switch and anti-Ally Switch strategies. It's one of the top threats to the WC
The happy ends very short. Those guys normaly are the first one to be beating. In the end, most of the finalist ends using the same pokemons.
Players really can be good, but they don't make miracles. In the end or you just use the most strongs pokemon with not being banned yet or a 100% counter strategy.
 

Serpens007

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Weird-team strats tend to not last long since they're usually made for specific instances. If one piece fails to fall into place, it's fast track to losing

The happy ends very short. Those guys normaly are the first one to be beating. In the end, most of the finalist ends using the same pokemons.
Players really can be good, but they don't make miracles. In the end or you just use the most strongs pokemon with not being banned yet or a 100% counter strategy.

Yup, that's why I said that there are too many good players that know how to take on any team, so you don't see them much, but you should expect them.

But put a good combo of an amazing player + a good bold strategy and you end up with Pachirisu, Whimscott, Raichu and Hitmontop as World Champs