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PS5 Speculation |OT12| - Aw hell, Transistor's running this again?
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Yea, I do not recall a single person suggesting this approach.
It's marketing, it seems the tried to have the best OC just to say : look it's a >10TF, but in fact, we will see with 3rd party games how it will work against XSX, thanks to DF analysis and check if it possible to measure the frequency.
jason said they were aiming to beat stadia number. 9.2 is not even close to that. 10.3 is basically never going to happen in game.
klee said ps5 specs were higher.
BGs and osiris were 12+ tflops.
Same, after all the hype revolving around the specs, I'm actually quite happy with what was presented. Now we just need to see the games.
I don't really need to defend myself, and I think my track record speaks for itself, but everything I've been saying for two years about next-gen hardware has been consistent and proven out (or will prove out when the machines launch). For example: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ne...r-see-staff-post.159131/page-92#post-27509992
I even told you this morning what was going to happen today: https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1240257669568528384
Now going back to not posting in these next-gen threads anymore because you all keep taking what I say out of context and it is infuriating!
So will spiderman for ps4 take advantage of the ps5's extra power at launch? that was going to be my only reason for buying one this year at least
there's a list of sony exclusives I haven't played yet because I assumed ps5 would have full ps4 bc at launch and running them with extra bells and whistles
there's a list of sony exclusives I haven't played yet because I assumed ps5 would have full ps4 bc at launch and running them with extra bells and whistles
Did anyone take away from the SSD talk the the SSD is replaceable? Or is there a bay to *add* and SSD?
Well, the raw TF number initially seems like kind of a shame, but hopefully that tremendous clock speed and (if I understood correctly) the SSD I/O hardware taking a load off the main processors helps to at least partially make up the difference. And Boost Mode will be especially sick.
I'll probably never trust an insider again though 😁 Well, unless the aforementioned factors really do manage to close the gap, but that doesn't seem likely.
I'll probably never trust an insider again though 😁 Well, unless the aforementioned factors really do manage to close the gap, but that doesn't seem likely.
Props to you and Colbert for sticking to your guns. I've always said that 36 CU's was possible, regardless of Github or not. I'm curious whether you think a 2.23 GHZ variable clock speed was Sony's original plan or did they get surprised by MS's plans and decided they had to go for much higher clocks.
TBF, Even 7Tflops of RDNA2 should beat the GCN 10.7Tflops of Stadia.
Cerny explicitly said there will be a bay. The SSD is replaceable with even off-the-shelf SSDs that meet spec. Currently no such SSD exists on the market.
Well it's over. It was a deep dive, they weren't lying about that for sure.
SSD - awesome
CPU - awesome
GPU - that'll do, but nothing extraordinary
MEMORY - good
AUDIO - awesome
I am disappointed thate was no talk about features aimed at ML & image reconstruction capabilities and there was no mention of VRS either. So it seems they were either aiming too low from the start or Cerny was really held back by the requirement of back comp.
It seems to be a damn fine piece of hw, however, they'll need to set the price right. For 399 this will fly off the shelves. For anything above that, it'll have a tough time.
On an other note, I'm kind of puzzled why they chose to show this video to us. Clearly this was aimed at the dev community and not the general customers.
I know they were affraid it would leak, but I rather they didn't show us this video today. With no footage of games or tech demos, this was a classic example of "telling, not showing".
SSD - awesome
CPU - awesome
GPU - that'll do, but nothing extraordinary
MEMORY - good
AUDIO - awesome
I am disappointed thate was no talk about features aimed at ML & image reconstruction capabilities and there was no mention of VRS either. So it seems they were either aiming too low from the start or Cerny was really held back by the requirement of back comp.
It seems to be a damn fine piece of hw, however, they'll need to set the price right. For 399 this will fly off the shelves. For anything above that, it'll have a tough time.
On an other note, I'm kind of puzzled why they chose to show this video to us. Clearly this was aimed at the dev community and not the general customers.
I know they were affraid it would leak, but I rather they didn't show us this video today. With no footage of games or tech demos, this was a classic example of "telling, not showing".
isn't it going to be expensive as well compared to Xbox because its a pcie 4.0 and to hit those speeds and get certified by sony?
Hey guys, just came to gloat ;) It seems I were wrong only with 20GBs RAM on XSX. I found it ridiculous how Cerny used boost clocks to get the number to double digits, pretty sure it will backfire. In general - Spencer is having a party tonight.
Myself, still buying PS5 when God of war 2 comes, but excitement is pretty much killed for me. Seems like a ball dropped, even BC and SSD extensions seem to be in not ready state by now.
Myself, still buying PS5 when God of war 2 comes, but excitement is pretty much killed for me. Seems like a ball dropped, even BC and SSD extensions seem to be in not ready state by now.
And they will, a lot.
Twitter isn't being kind to Sony right now.
you can expand ssds that won't exist at launch and will be prohibitively expensive when they do.
this thing is going to run expensive, hot, loud, and slow
He said only in rare instances would clock speed have to be dropped 10%. Are you saying that's a lie?
No idea how much noise and how much heat either retail unit will make.
I thought Klee and Matt both had final specs at one point they said.
we don't know this, radeon on rdna1 are almost always above basic frequency but indeed, 2.23ghz? waiting for some df benchmarks
Yeah, wow.
I thought he explained this bit fairly clearly - it can't maintain the boost clocks if you hammer the 256bit (AVX?) instructions, otherwise it's fine.
Well Xbox has a proprietary unit, and the internal SSD is soldered on the board. So I'm not sure which is better or worse.
And even when it does, he said a 2% clock reduction causes a 10% power draw reduction. That's good - this machine isn't going lower than 10TF, and even then only when it needs to.
And I guess this specialized cooling system should make that do-able.
10.3 TF console with High clock speeds, which mostly runs at max frequency and downclocks by frequency rather than power, 16 GB ram, ultra high speed SSD, man that SSD is amazing and impressive audio technology at 399$ is amazing.
Sony maximized performance to launch at 399$.
Sony maximized performance to launch at 399$.
So, github is right. Are there a couple of mods who get banned for calling it garbage and wrong?
I was really hoping to see something exciting other than the ssd.
I was really hoping to see something exciting other than the ssd.
Lol GitHub was it, it just ended up being clocked higher than tested.
Cpu
8% faster xbox
Gpu
15% faster xbox
Ssd
2.3x faster ps5
Ram
Both have 16GB GDDR6
Xbox
10GB 576
6GB 336
PS5
Still unknown(?)
BC
Xbox
Every game works on xbox from day 1
PS5
Every game will work eventually, but expect the top 100 at launch(?)
Cpu
8% faster xbox
Gpu
15% faster xbox
Ssd
2.3x faster ps5
Ram
Both have 16GB GDDR6
Xbox
10GB 576
6GB 336
PS5
Still unknown(?)
BC
Xbox
Every game works on xbox from day 1
PS5
Every game will work eventually, but expect the top 100 at launch(?)
Lol what a bunch of fluff like talk haha.. Nothing that they said got me excited, well not completely true but meh. Not a exciting system. SSD=Great... the audio stuff....nope.. and the rest also nope....
Overall, not a interesting system that i want to buy. Conclusion: skip and waiting for the Pro lol.....and if no Pro i can wait till it's in the 1xx euro region... lol
Team github you were right and i was wrong..... Did not expect Cerny to come with this kind of system......
Overall, not a interesting system that i want to buy. Conclusion: skip and waiting for the Pro lol.....and if no Pro i can wait till it's in the 1xx euro region... lol
Team github you were right and i was wrong..... Did not expect Cerny to come with this kind of system......
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