[Rumor] AestheticGamer1 says he's heard from developers that "..the ps5 struggles with 4K games in particular" says to to expect a lot of "fake 4k".

[Sota4077]

His post came about after another Twitter user asked about the performance of PS5 games on the CAPCOM graphics engine. His entire quote is:



IF this is true he seems to be implying that we will see more checkerboarding on PS5 games. Normally I don't post stuff like this but he does have a pretty solid track record of reporting on Sony related stuff.

 

[larryfox]

Jeff grubb and dusk golem has said the same things

 

[Deleted member 10193]

I don't believe this for a second. If Xbox One X can do 4k native vs 1440p on PS4 Pro with 2TF difference then the PS5 wont have any problems with 10TF vs 12TF.

 

[zombiejames]

Native 4K is a waste of resources, it's been proven time and time again, and labelling reconstruction techniques as "fake 4K" is idiotic.

 

[Khrol]

Jeff grubb and dusk golem has said the same things

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That is Dusk Golem

 

[Tora]

Faux k is absolutely fine

 

[Bunkles]

Jeff Grubb confirmed this too, right?

 

[FullNelson]

4k is a waste of resources. Give me all the fake 4k.

 

[Uzupedro]

Jeff grubb and dusk golem has said the same things

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He is Dusk Golem

 

[vestan]

people attracted to this sorta topic are horribly toxic

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Ahh man, he's not wrong. Feel like this thread is gonna prove that. Shout out to Dusk though.

on topic: i thought the gap between XSX and PS5 wouldn't be that huge?

 

[PocketchangeTTV]

I would imagine within the next few years native 4k would be rare, especially with dlss and checkerboarding being as good as they are.

 

[Failburger]

That's fine. 1440p @ 144fps pls

 

[LiK]

The term is Checkerboard Rendering.

 

[Chopin the Third]

Could be true, but wasn't nearly every game at the June event running at 4k?

 

[Bundy]

Nonsense.

 

[btags]

Native 4K is a waste of resources, it's been proven time and time again, and labelling reconstruction techniques as "fake 4K" is idiotic.

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Yeah. Granted having a more powerful box is always better, but I hope both consoles focus on reconstruction techniques to allow better fidelity with other effects.

 

[Calabi]

So it turns out Cerny was wrong when he said 8tflops was the minimum needed for 4K?

 

[DominicanGlory]

Gimme that f4Ke.

 

[giancarlo123x]

Wasn't this posted and locked before?

 

[piratethingy]

I don't believe this for a second. If Xbox One X can do 4k native more than 1440p on Pro with 2TF difference then the PS5 wont have any problems with 10TF vs 12TF.

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I feel you, but I think it's going to be just like the endless 30fps vs 60fps debates. Sure they could get to native 4K, but instead they'll focus on other areas and avoid native4K. And I don't think that's a bad thing.

 

[MrKlaw]

AFAIK this was based on early RE8 footage which may have been rushed to get it ready for teh Sony stream. Single example, early code, not necessarily representative of other developers work - we've already seen multiple 4k titles on Sony's own stream last month

 

[Ashes of Dreams]

That really makes it sound like the leap from PS4 Pro to PS5 is just getting a SSD but I guess we'll see how it plays out.

Edit: People seem to misunderstand what I meant by this post, I guess I should have been more clear. I am talking from a marketing perspective.
Obviously I am aware that the PS5 is more powerful than the PS4 come on lol

 

[Deleted member 76539]

I think native 4k is kind of a waste personally anyways. I've been more than satisfied with the checkeboard solution or Insomniac's temporal injection. Of course it'd always be nice to have overhead, but if this consists of better performance then I'm all for it.

 

[Uzupedro]

Could be true, but wasn't nearly every game at the June event running at 4k?

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Most weren't running at 60FPS tho.
AFAIK the only 4K60FPS confirmed for PS5 is MM, maybe there is more.

 

[Mona]

not only is real 4k a waste of resources, but give me some fake 1080p when you're at it

 

[xem]

fake 4k is fine with me, it will be hardly noticeable. My only concern would be framerate. as long as its solid 60 or whatever the target is, im happy.

 

[offshore]

Well whether it's true or not, it's a total non-issue. Native 4k is massive waste of power.

 

[Chuck795]

No offense, but his information outside of Resident Evil has been iffy at best..

 

[Kalor]

Honestly I'd rather games not go for native 4k if that means they can do more or have a better framerate. The people who'll notice the difference is a minority.

 

[Vex]

👀 uh oh

 

[Izanagi89]

Why do we keep making these kind of threads. There's not enough info to have any sort of meaningful discussion :/

 

[SiassaDavid]

So a retreat of PS4 Pro vs. One X? I'm so surprised...

 

[RedSwirl]

Honestly, it's looking like "fake 4K" will become the standard in the long run, as image reconstruction techniques are getting really good. The most dramatic example is obviously DLSS2.0 but we'll see if AMD and consoles will have an answer to that.

For Sony specifically I'm interested in seeing if PS5 checkerboarding will be more effective than the PS4 implementation.

 

[Era Uma Vez]

As long as there is a 1440p 60fps for most (1st party) games, I dont care.
My TV upscales just fine.

 

[MatrixMan.exe]

Doubt.

 

[DjRalford]

Native 4K rendering means dick, even DF have said stuff like DLSS is the way forward when it comes to 4K.

 

[Yerffej]

Nothing surprising there.

 

[EarthPainting]

Makes sense. Regardless of whether the reasons, reconstruction techniques are here to stay. It just allows developers to do more with their resources, and most people don't even realise that it's happening.

 

[ZeroNoir_]

seeing the PS4Pro and Xbox One X performance, heck, even the top end PCs performance, this is not surprising

You need a Beast to run current gen games in 4k60

Consoles are more limited, even though the video card is a massive jump. I expect 4k30 or checkerboard bs

 

[Deleted member 57361]

Yet, PS5 was the only console that showed 4K gameplay running on it. Jeff and Dusk are just talking about early development as some fact for final performance.

 

[janusff]

IF this is true he seems to be implying that we will see more checkerboarding on PS5 games. Normally I don't post stuff like this but he does have a pretty solid track record of reporting on Sony related stuff.

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nah

 

[Iwao]

Wasn't this debunked before?

and Jeff was speculating about AMD SmartShift.

 

[LiK]

No offense, but his information outside of Resident Evil has been iffy at best..

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He's been accurate with the recent SF news

 

[Betty]

I'm expecting it too, chequerboard 4k and sub 60fps for multiplatforms on PS5 over Series X for example.

Still getting it over the the Xbox day 1 but yeah, Sony shouldn't have held back when developing it.

It's simply a less powerful console there's nothing to be done about it.

 

[Kaswa101]

Didn't this get locked earlier

 

[Gamer17]

Jeff grubb and dusk golem has said the same things

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All the sources are the same. Dusk .

Till now we only seen native 4k games in ps5 event running on ps5. So not really sure about this .

 

[Toumari]

Cannot wait to play Silent Hill in fake 4K made by Sony Japan Studio.

 

[OnionPowder]

That really makes it sound like the leap from PS4 Pro to PS5 is just getting a SSD but I guess we'll see how it plays out.

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Resolution is lamest of the upgrade potentials for next gen.

 

[Burt]

4K is gonna be a scourge on games for the first chunk of next gen

 

[Deleted member 4970]

That's good in a way, that reconstruction techniques will still be needed.

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