Yup. The initial reboot came out in early March and sold well. No idea why they went for Q3/Q4 release for the sequels.
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UK charts: Slow start for Tomb Raider as Spider-Man reigns supreme
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Yup. The initial reboot came out in early March and sold well. No idea why they went for Q3/Q4 release for the sequels.
I doubt this is enough to blame on a 50% drop in sales (which is obviously massive) but Rise launched on a Tuesday. Shadow launched on Friday and we're (two days later) looking at its performance on this week's chart. I've no doubt that most sales happen over the weekend but Rise potential had three more days of sales? I dunno.
No doubt this is gonna be pretty disappointing for SE.
The trippy part is PS4 accounted for 63% of the sales compared to XB1. That Rise exclusivity hurt the brand badly IMO.
So what is the hardware split in the UK these days?
63% of Tomb Raider sales on PS4 is significant in itself. But when you also consider Spider-Man retained the top spot. That must indicate the hardware gap is quite a bit bigger than the 60-40 split people usually bring up.
Also makes you wonder what the state of the market is in Europe. Given UK is Xbox's strongest outside the US.
63% of Tomb Raider sales on PS4 is significant in itself. But when you also consider Spider-Man retained the top spot. That must indicate the hardware gap is quite a bit bigger than the 60-40 split people usually bring up.
Also makes you wonder what the state of the market is in Europe. Given UK is Xbox's strongest outside the US.
Oh so it's doing ok on PC so far. That's slightly encouraging at least.
Nice to see a niche character like Spider-Man hold his own against Lara.
Seriously though, this is pretty impressive. Tomb Raider's a big franchise.
Seriously though, this is pretty impressive. Tomb Raider's a big franchise.
Square seem to be mishandling their western properties. They gave hitmam and io away, killed dues ex and now this. It seems like they are betting big on marvel, but given that we haven't even seen gameplay of their avengers game, I think it's safe to say square have some serious issues managing their ex-eidos studious.
Still trying to understand what they earn making this kind of statment.
Shows confidence in their game? Makes for nice looking headlines before release?
I think the dip in sales has more to do with releasing it so close to Spider-Man.
I think the reboot is competent but it's so fucking boring.
I gave Lara's character a pass in TR2013 since she was a girl stranded on a dangerous island full of assholes but she became even duller in Rise. The gameplay loop itself is okay if you like that but playing as Lara is miserable. Even Joel from TLoU felt more alive and we all know how Joel was.
Wasn't Shadow pretty expensive?
Seriously curious where will take this franchise or will it take long vacation next to Deus Ex.
I gave Lara's character a pass in TR2013 since she was a girl stranded on a dangerous island full of assholes but she became even duller in Rise. The gameplay loop itself is okay if you like that but playing as Lara is miserable. Even Joel from TLoU felt more alive and we all know how Joel was.
Wasn't Shadow pretty expensive?
Seriously curious where will take this franchise or will it take long vacation next to Deus Ex.
What did you want/expect them to say? That they were very worried?
That answer was perfectly fine, TBH I don't think most other answers would've been allowed.
Do these TR games sell well? The modern day ones I mean. I know the last one didn't sell very well. Do Lara Croft still have the same appeal as the 90s? On a side note DQ:11 is the best game out on market right now. More people should give it a chance.
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a) It was an answer to an interview question
b) The quote is taken out of context.
There are other reasons why it could be struggling that have nothing to do with Rise being a timed exclusive. Unless someone has any data directly tying that exclusive deal to this report, I'm just going to chalk up that noise to console fanboy bs
Ye no surprises. Everyone was talking about Spider-Man, while Lara got forgotten. Likely Square will put TR on hold for quite some time.
The problem with the TR reboot is it already felt kind of stale at release due to other franchises already doing it better.
They're not making a statement, they're answering a question. Some guy ask you if you're worried about the competetion, what are you supposed to answer? You just say you're not because you believe in your game. Which is essentially what he said.
This in combination with releasing ROTTR on the same day as Fallout 4 and now, releasing SOTTR a week after Spider Man. SOTTR went gold on July 24th and Square Enix should have released it by the third week of August. Game would have done better than what it appears to be doing now.
The good news is this will surely inspire the next Tomb Raider game to be something completely different.
The bad news is that with the reception of Shadow in particular I fear they'll take the wrong lesson and and go for an action focus. I fear they'll look at it and think people want an action focus from Tomb Raider because Shadow's very little combat focus wasn't well recieved.
The bad news is that with the reception of Shadow in particular I fear they'll take the wrong lesson and and go for an action focus. I fear they'll look at it and think people want an action focus from Tomb Raider because Shadow's very little combat focus wasn't well recieved.
So Braaier how would you describe Spider-Man's legs?
Source please? Platform breakdown would be preferable.
42% drop is absolute madness for a launch as big as that. A good comparison is Uncharted 4 since both games launched at around 190k. Uncharted 4 fell 78% in its second week to around 43k sales while Spidey fell only 42% to around 110k. That difference is massive. Legs are going to be strong with this one.
Well let's just give you rough Steamspy numbers:
Tomb Raider 2013 (total 11 million copies sold on a total of 5 platforms), PC: >5(shows as 5-10) million copies
Rise of the Tomb Raider (total ~7 million copies on a total of 4 platforms), PC: >2(2-5) million copies
Shadow of the Tomb Raider: already at >200(200-500)k copies
So from this we can infer a couple of things:
I think Bruno suggested Spidey launched to above 190k sales? If that is correct and it dropped only 42% that means its total UK retail sales are around 300k so far. So God of War is only a little above that after 5-ish months on the market. If we say 25% of people in the UK bought GoW digitally that would bring the total up to say around 400k.
If we assume that God of War has sold through about 7.5-8 million copies (going by that recent infographic from SMS) then it's only sold about 5% of its total in the UK, which seems a little low as we usually make up about 10% of the total global market. Maybe we just don't like GoW too much? I think the series has always done a proportionally huge amount of legwork in North America.
Again, I think Bruno said Tomb Raider 2013 sold about 190k on its opening week in the UK (I hope I'm not mixing up different games' performances here!), which means Shadow is launching to less than 57k, and a 25% improvement would put Rise's debut around 43k?
PUBG is losing steam by being on only 1 console? Hasn't it sold like 50 million copies total?
I think he's more suggesting that going exclusive really damaged the brand, hence why it's far below TR2013's numbers.
I think Bruno suggested Spidey launched to above 190k sales? If that is correct and it dropped only 42% that means its total UK retail sales are around 300k so far. So God of War is only a little above that after 5-ish months on the market. If we say 25% of people in the UK bought GoW digitally that would bring the total up to say around 400k.
If we assume that God of War has sold through about 7.5-8 million copies (going by that recent infographic from SMS) then it's only sold about 5% of its total in the UK, which seems a little low as we usually make up about 10% of the total global market. Maybe we just don't like GoW too much? I think the series has always done a proportionally huge amount of legwork in North America.
Again, I think Bruno said Tomb Raider 2013 sold about 190k on its opening week in the UK (I hope I'm not mixing up different games' performances here!), which means Shadow is launching to less than 57k, and a 25% improvement would put Rise's debut around 43k?
PUBG is losing steam by being on only 1 console? Hasn't it sold like 50 million copies total?
I think he's more suggesting that going exclusive really damaged the brand, hence why it's far below TR2013's numbers.
Spider-Man doing gangbusters as expected.
Oh boy, official numbers can't come soon enough.
Oh boy, official numbers can't come soon enough.
Now shelf this reboot and give us a Tomb Raider with a classic Lara.
Its crazy how hell bent they were on being different that they wouldn't even give Lara a classic Lara costume as an alt. outside of those dumb low polygon skins
2013 was different, flawed but had potential. They did nothing with this reboot series and it just fizzled out.
Its crazy how hell bent they were on being different that they wouldn't even give Lara a classic Lara costume as an alt. outside of those dumb low polygon skins
2013 was different, flawed but had potential. They did nothing with this reboot series and it just fizzled out.
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Thats my read, it isn't a bad game. Just kinda of there. Both it and DQ X1 should have been june -july-august games. Now they are " I will catch them on holiday sales" games
