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“It’s time for the media to admit Bernie cost Hillary the election.”
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I think relitigating the 2016 primaries is a completely fucking worthless exercise at this stage.
Lmao. People really will bend over backwards to punch left.
Yep. It's a dead point, and I think there's very little to gain from reheating the same conversation.
In a way it's right, Trump co-opted much of the Bernie language. As we all know though he had no intention on following through.
Bernie is always a convenient scapegoat for Dems and media that don't want to do any self-reflection.
For real
I think it's counter productive to blame either Hillary or Bernie for loosing the 2016 election over blaming the almost half of the voting population that wanted a modern day Mussolini in power.
It was a bullshit argument then and it's a bullshit argument now.
Hillary lost her own election on her own terms.
Hillary lost her own election on her own terms.
I'm far more concerned about floods and roe v. wade being overturned than talking about 2016 again.
It's happening because Roe V. Wade appears to be dead. That election gave us 3 conservative scotus judges. That's why you will see a lot of this right now.
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Let's remember that Clyburn blamed Jaime Harrison for campaigning to "Defund The Police". When in reality he never did nor endorsed him like Biden in the Primary and we would have had 51 Democrats in the Senate.
Yep. The margins were so small that you can blame the loss on anything you want. Basically everything had to go wrong for her in order for her to lose. And it did.
"As a member of the Hillary For America digital team, this vitriol coming from a male Sanders supporter was unsurprising."
bias, what bias?
and the rest is basically "mmmh you criticized small scale reforms yet you participate in small scale reforms, I am very intelligent"
bias, what bias?
and the rest is basically "mmmh you criticized small scale reforms yet you participate in small scale reforms, I am very intelligent"
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Yeah. Democrats will always point fingers but in the end Trump still got a shit ton of votes to be re-elected. Americans wanted more of that shit.
Relitigating is for losers. I wish people would move past wankery like this and focus on stuff which can actually be changed. You know, unlike the past.
Saw something a couple days ago talking about how bad her "deplorable s" comment was at the time and looking to now how seeing the Republican Party and what it has become, how right she was.
If this isn't a joke, this thread is going to go so much worse for you lmao
If a politician saying "we should be like every other first-world nation on the planet" cost another one a Democratic primary, like saying out loud what your government should be doing all the time was what pulled the trigger, your country is maybe irrevocably fucked.
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I'm ready to lay the 2016 election to rest. Hillary failed and the voters failed to show up. 81 million voted for Biden in 2020, so at least the voters showed up in 2020. Most people bought into the "Hillary landslide" in 2016 and that didn't help turnout. People realized by 2020 not to underestimate Trump. I hope that lesson carries on to 2024, because he's likely to run again.
No.
The democrats and Hillary themselves fucked themselves. They underestimained Trump and his garbage.
The democrats and Hillary themselves fucked themselves. They underestimained Trump and his garbage.
I don't even get what the media is supposed to admit here. At a certain level, every competitor hurt Hillary Clinton, ok, so, no primaries then? The party just completely turns into some autocratic party that picks their choice behind closed doors and everyone goes with it? Course even in that scenario the party would pick some stinkers and still loose from time to time, what then?
Here's How Many Bernie Sanders Supporters Ultimately Voted For Trump
Yes, Bernie Sanders supporters who voted for President Trump could have cost Hillary Clinton the election. But then, about the same share of Republican primary voters defected to Clinton.
www.npr.org
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