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From a technical level, I feel like From Software should be embarrassed. Blueprint did an amazing job . Everything from the graphics, sound, and UI is amazing
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After playing elden ring I started playing demons souls for ps5… wow…
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almost like one is a cross gen open world game, the other is a current gen much more linear game with much smaller areas.
but sure, From should be embarrassed.
Seconded.
I never ceases to amaze me how little some people on a gaming hobbyist site can know about production and technical details.
Like, you just hook yourself up to the Imagination Machine and think really hard about the game you want to make, right?
They totally should have tightened up the graphics on Level 2. Come on! It's like they didn't even bother to hit the "Good Graphics" button!
"I should make games."
"Ok, do it."
"I'm really more of an idea guy."
"Ok, so what's your idea?"
"Better graphics."
"..."
In addition to what has already been said here, let's also keep in mind that Bluepoint built their version on top of the original. It's still FromSoft's game underneath it. Meaning there was A LOT less work on the development aspect they had to do, so a lot more time/resources could go to making it as pretty as possible. (Also, it had Sony backing it)
I look forward to a day when new games looking like Demon's Souls Remake is the standard but we're not going to be there for a long time.
I look forward to a day when new games looking like Demon's Souls Remake is the standard but we're not going to be there for a long time.
Where's the lie though. From Software aren't exactly technical wizards. In fact all their games are a mess from a technical perspective.
Elden Ring looks fine, however if there is actually something they should be embarrassed about is their performance. I'm fine with the way Elden Ring looks but a game that looks like Elden Ring should not have the performance issues it has and there seemingly has been no work to improve it.
You could just make a thread praising Demon's Souls without shitting on another game and dev team.
I think Elden Ring looks great overall. It has some rough spots but some areas in the game are breathtaking. Not to mention it's the better game overall.
You're never going to get a From Software game that is a technical marvel. They'll have good, even great art design because that's their thing.
Which is fine because this pixel-chasing, texture resolution complaining obsession doesn't lead to better games or better work life balance for developers.
Which is fine because this pixel-chasing, texture resolution complaining obsession doesn't lead to better games or better work life balance for developers.
To be fair, a game shouldn't need to be a Technical Marvel to have good performance.
Yeah lol
Elden Ring’s Hidetaka Miyazaki Impressed with but Pressured by Demon’s Souls Remake
Elden Ring Director Hidetaka Miyazaki is impressed but pressured by Bluepoint's remake of the game that made him a household name.
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Demon's Souls doesn't have to worry about crossgen performance, was developed with the intention of being a technical showcase for the console, and is about one tenth the size of Elden Ring.
I just did play Demon's Soul, sure the FX and light are amazing, but the art and sens of scale of ER is just... beathtaking
Sure, I'm not a huge fan of From games because they run like ass on the platforms I own, but I'm not going to bemoan them for not having better graphics than other games.
Which, is what the OP points out. He doesn't really single out performance.
It's pretty difficult to compare the two. From keeps making new games while Bluepoint essentially rebuilt the same exact game with modern visuals. I will give Bluepoint credit though, they have more technical prowess than Fromsoft.
I can't believe an open-world game designed for a multi-platform cross-gen release doesn't look the same as a 1st-party developer working for a single console.
Also nobody gives a fuck about how From games look. They didn't care in 1995, they didn't care in 2009 and nobody sure as shit cares now.
Also this narrative that ER doesn't (at times) look absolutely stunning is getting tiresome.
Also nobody gives a fuck about how From games look. They didn't care in 1995, they didn't care in 2009 and nobody sure as shit cares now.
Also this narrative that ER doesn't (at times) look absolutely stunning is getting tiresome.
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Yeah lol
Elden Ring’s Hidetaka Miyazaki Impressed with but Pressured by Demon’s Souls Remake
Elden Ring Director Hidetaka Miyazaki is impressed but pressured by Bluepoint's remake of the game that made him a household name.
nobody is disputing that Demon's Souls looks better than Elden Ring, it's the part where From should be embarrassed that people have an issue with.
I wish they made some actual changes on that Remake. I still can't bother to finish it and graphics definitely can't push me to do it.
I mean sure, but easily performance is Elden Rings biggest issue and probably is what (even if they don't mention it), helps Demon's Souls feel so impressive.
It's much easier to make a pretty game when someone gave you the template for the thing over a decade ago and has been consistently making evolutions on that template in the time since.
Not to take anything away from Bluepoint as they're great at what they do, but once you think critically about the comparison it quickly breaks down.
From is also a company that has been putting out a game a year, sometimes multiple games in a single year, with limited budgets and resources for a long time.
I think people expect that because Dark Souls is successful and widely-respected, the budget is the same as other games that sell as well. They really aren't.
Hopefully with Elden Ring going supernova, they'll have more budget to fix those performance issues.
It is pretty nice. I'd love it if they could give Bloodborne the same treatment.
Shit, can you imagine Dark Souls 2 with a new skin? It would actually not look like utter garbage!
From software were never a studio known for their technical prowess, and you're comparing them to the best studio in the industry when it comes to remaking games. Ofc there will be a huge difference.
ER would still look a generation behind at least even if it was a current gen exclusive.
Ok, I get that, its like the old saying I refer to alot:
"Its not what you say, but how you say it"
It wouldn't make DS2 a better game which is what you've been insinuating. Demons Souls isn't better than the original - it just has a pretty skin.
The character creator alone makes it better than the original
Yes please
I mean, I'd say running at 60 FPS, having improvements to the rolling (the original didn't have the ability to roll in any direction), and having significantly better load times and other little QoL stuff does make the Demon's Souls remake better than the original. Unless you know, the game playing better doesn't mean anything.
Bluepoint is good at remasters but thus far have completely misunderstood the original works that they have remade and their interpretations have been awful.
The concept of geology is going to be fucking embarrassed when Bluepoint gets done with the Grand Canyon.
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