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Are you for or against freedom of speech?
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wtf does freedom of speech even mean
If that means you're allowed to promote nazism then fuck that version of freedom of speech.
If that means you're allowed to promote nazism then fuck that version of freedom of speech.
What?
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Ah
https://www.resetera.com/threads/da...one-to-pick-with-resetera.85351/post-15685158
Looks like a bad gotcha attempt after a ban.
edit:
Ah
https://www.resetera.com/threads/da...one-to-pick-with-resetera.85351/post-15685158
Looks like a bad gotcha attempt after a ban.
The best things in life are of balanced.
Freedom of speech is good of course....but uncontrolled freedom of speech? That will be literally anarchy with no order.
I all for having some sort of moderation where the moderator is an AI powered by a neural network of machine learning algorithms.
Freedom of speech is good of course....but uncontrolled freedom of speech? That will be literally anarchy with no order.
I all for having some sort of moderation where the moderator is an AI powered by a neural network of machine learning algorithms.
Define Freedom of Speech, cause there's nuance to what is considered free speech. I do not support the United State's definition of free speech, as it allows hate groups to organize and spread hateful propaganda which always leads to the death of innocent lives.
What in the ever living fuck is this? Of course, yes.
First Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
The GOVERNMENT itself will not limit one's freedom of speech.
I think that people sometimes get confused. Corporations, LLCs, etc., are free to ban shitheads like Milo, Alex Jones, etc., because they spew hate speech. Corporations are not the government.
I DO think that hate speech should not be tolerated, even by the government, but that requires a Constitutional amendment, which basically requires a miracle nowadays.
First Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
The GOVERNMENT itself will not limit one's freedom of speech.
I think that people sometimes get confused. Corporations, LLCs, etc., are free to ban shitheads like Milo, Alex Jones, etc., because they spew hate speech. Corporations are not the government.
I DO think that hate speech should not be tolerated, even by the government, but that requires a Constitutional amendment, which basically requires a miracle nowadays.
Freedom of speech shouldn't and cannot be allowed to protect shitbags who want to hurt others with the idea that they're below them, e.g. racists.
Well that's a bad look for the thread. That was a well earned ban.
Well that's a bad look for the thread. That was a well earned ban.
I am 100% for Freedom of Speech. But here is the handy guide for those who forever make the same fucking mistake when it comes to Freedom of Speech and its meaning.
The phrase 'freedom of speech' doesn't mean anything and doesn't exist anywhere in the world. Blasphemy, threats to the government, threats to other people, verbal abuse etc, none of these are universally permitted.
Try harder.
Try harder.
The poll needs more options. This isn't a binary choice.
Very few people are for complete free speech. Even those who constantly complain about "muh freeze peach" when people call them out on their bullshit have their limits.
Very few people are for complete free speech. Even those who constantly complain about "muh freeze peach" when people call them out on their bullshit have their limits.
Yes. You should be allowed to say whatever you want but that also mean you have live with the consequences.
the term "alt-left" is the most egregious bullshit in the world, creating a false equivalency where there is none. The "extreme" ideas of the left are a more even distribution of wealth, tolerance, affordable or free healthcare and education, while the alt-right wants to establish kleptocracies and burn all the jews and muslims to death.
miss us with this bad faith shit OP.
miss us with this bad faith shit OP.
Oh. This is one of those kinds of threads. This will be interesting.
I'm for the freedom of speech.
Except the peculiar thing about freedoms and rights afforded to human beings is that they end where equivalent freedoms and rights (or those of equivalent importance) of others begin.
Except the peculiar thing about freedoms and rights afforded to human beings is that they end where equivalent freedoms and rights (or those of equivalent importance) of others begin.
Thank you. Anyone that uses the term "alt-left" doesn't deserve the time of day. You know exactly what shitty opinion they're going to have. Such as making this dumb thread.
Freedom of speech as in not being put into prison for it by the state. But in a private context, people are allowed to throw you out of there non-public homes, organizations or platforms.
But there should always be some restriction on hate speech, since there isn't anything worth protecting there and it always tries to undermine the rights of others. I like our rules in Germany, but they should be enforce stronger in the public online space.
But there should always be some restriction on hate speech, since there isn't anything worth protecting there and it always tries to undermine the rights of others. I like our rules in Germany, but they should be enforce stronger in the public online space.
OP
OP
What options can be added to the poll?
For example of craziness that was tolerated in the US (by the government) , the Westboro Baptist Church made "God hates fags" signs and if I'm remembering right they protested at a gay person's funeral. Is that OK with anyone?
For example of craziness that was tolerated in the US (by the government) , the Westboro Baptist Church made "God hates fags" signs and if I'm remembering right they protested at a gay person's funeral. Is that OK with anyone?
I am hard against freedom of speech and anyone who outwardly supports it.
Fuck you.
All of you.
What you wan't isn't free speech. What you want is freedom of consequences. Neither of which, by the way, any of us ever actually had. You just want to dead name/ misgender people or say nigger/faggot/jew without any repercussion. This slippery slope picture yall always try to paint as being a consequence of hate speech laws is a stupid hypothetical that always ignores the fact that we would have the courts that could determine whether or not a hate speech violation is just.
Most of the freespeech fuckwits just want their speech to trample over the speech of others. They ultimately want the government to force platforms to have them. They call this the marketplace of ideas and they always extol the virtues of giving everything a platform and letting the audience decide for themselves whether or not an idea is valid. This isn't free speech. This is just a means to protect bigots and their shills. Nothing more. So I say again... fuck you.
Fuck you.
All of you.
What you wan't isn't free speech. What you want is freedom of consequences. Neither of which, by the way, any of us ever actually had. You just want to dead name/ misgender people or say nigger/faggot/jew without any repercussion. This slippery slope picture yall always try to paint as being a consequence of hate speech laws is a stupid hypothetical that always ignores the fact that we would have the courts that could determine whether or not a hate speech violation is just.
Most of the freespeech fuckwits just want their speech to trample over the speech of others. They ultimately want the government to force platforms to have them. They call this the marketplace of ideas and they always extol the virtues of giving everything a platform and letting the audience decide for themselves whether or not an idea is valid. This isn't free speech. This is just a means to protect bigots and their shills. Nothing more. So I say again... fuck you.
I am 100% for Freedom of Speech. But here is the handy guide for those who forever make the same fucking mistake when it comes to Freedom of Speech and its meaning.
This so much.
You can say whatever the hell you want. But don't expect freedom of consequence. Hateful shits needs to be called out. Everyone who leans on that is an asshole or racist who just wants to say f***** up things without fear of reproach.
And yet, they're the first people to complain when a POC starts talking about white privilege.
And yet, they're the first people to complain when a POC starts talking about white privilege.
Here's a piece of advice. I don't hink ERA is the place for you. You'll save everyone, including yourself, a lot of time if you just leave instead of making disingenuous threads.
That's hate speech, I'm super against that.
Fuck religious bigotry in general.
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