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Chinese gov't as bad as Nazis?
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all time, yes.
current government? probably won't know for sure until many years from now when all the gritty details come out, but it's looking likely.
current government? probably won't know for sure until many years from now when all the gritty details come out, but it's looking likely.
They're literally putting people into camps and harvesting their organs while those people are alive
There was a time I'd have rolled my eyes at the comparison, but there's almost no denying it now. What's even worse is that China has solid grip on the world economy. Even America bends its knee to their influence.
We're a frog in a boiling pot right now.
We're a frog in a boiling pot right now.
Trying to compare the moral values of various imperial states across history is impossible. What do you make of regime changes? Of the collapse of entire societies? If you're just going by "net death caused", who is going to beat the United Kingdom or the USA?
Gobbling up South China Sea isn't expansionist? Putting vulnerable countries in debt and seizing their properties like ports isn't expansionist?
Yes the govt there has done shit in so many ways of not only for loss of human life, but stealing intellectual property, pretending to help the African Union but proceeding to bug an entire building, they are using their economic power currently to influence things and it's a disgusting mix. I want all American companies to pull out of China.
this is why the US NOT makings a trade deal with other southern Asian countries was such a huge mistake to help reduce the influence the chinese govts have.
this is why the US NOT makings a trade deal with other southern Asian countries was such a huge mistake to help reduce the influence the chinese govts have.
Mass interment camps? Inhumane tests on subjects based on ethnicity? Torture of innocent civilians in the name of security? Grand ideas of superiority? Whilst they've not reached the levels of evil seen in Nazi Germany, the markings of that trajectory is there and its harrowing to think of.
Not to the extent Germany was. Russia was expansionist as well, but neither China or Russia compare with how Germany invaded everyone. I still think China mirrors Russia more than any other modern regime. They are more effective and better at PR.
Better in some ways, worse than others. Historical comparisons like this aren't really useful.
But yes, they've been engaging in Lebensraum-like land grabs, ethnic cleansing, and generally taking advantage of the fact the world doesn't want to fight them. There's parallels. They've been doing those things for decades, none of it was invented by Nazi Germany, and I doubt Xi's China will be the last to engage in them.
But yes, they've been engaging in Lebensraum-like land grabs, ethnic cleansing, and generally taking advantage of the fact the world doesn't want to fight them. There's parallels. They've been doing those things for decades, none of it was invented by Nazi Germany, and I doubt Xi's China will be the last to engage in them.
What's interesting on this front is that China is actually eco-fascist. They have a lot of industrialization to clean up but they are doing it much faster than anywhere in the world. The benefit of being able to tell people to do whatever you want and disappear those that don't comply.
It's been the same regime since 1949, so by current government do you mean Xi Jinping?
They're literally doing the same shit as the Nazis did right now. Vivisections, and all. Apparently Hitler's mistake was setting up the camps before making sure Germany was in everyone's pockets first.
I think China's occupation of Xinjiang and Tibet - two regions with historic ties to China but their own cultures and identities - is comparable to German occupation of Czechoslovakia and Austria. Arguably Poland, too. The major difference is time.
Yeah the tactics used to occupy those regions points to a brutal expansionist streak in line with Nazi Germany, colonial America, and the British Empire. It's bad shit.
The political situation is pretty distinct. Both regions have been occupied by China since the Qing dynasty. Tibet did enjoy a period of de facto independence in the early 20th century, but was still internationally recognized as under the jurisdiction of China.
It was a Stalinist state when Stalin was still around.
We know that. The worst atrocities are still The Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution 40 or 50 years ago. I don't know why people think these things are new just because they affect American corporations' bottom line now.
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