Covid: chemicals found in everyday products could hinder vaccine
Researchers worry PFAS, commonly found in the bodies of Americans, will reduce the immunization’s effectiveness
www.theguardian.com
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Covid: chemicals found in everyday products could hinder vaccine - PFAS, commonly in the bodies of Americans, will reduce the immunization’s effective
- Thread starter SilentPanda
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www.theguardian.com
Yeah wouldn't the trial results have shown the vaccinations to be way less effective if this was a serious problem?
Yeah. I'm going to assume the vaccines produced in the US are being tested on people in the US.
OP, it seems bad to circulate something like this (not even peer-reviewed) to undercut faith in a vaccine, when said vaccine is not even determined yet... There are already vaccine trials underway that clearly are examining these effects just by virtue of measuring vaccine effectiveness.
It's just begging for people with limited scientific understanding to panic or to buy into anti-vaccine conspiracy.
Please think of the ramifications before you post clickbait thread titles.
It's just begging for people with limited scientific understanding to panic or to buy into anti-vaccine conspiracy.
Please think of the ramifications before you post clickbait thread titles.
This has been known for years with other vaccines being effected by PFAS. I think the level of lost immunity is still within levels that scientists and researchers are still okay with or else this would be a much larger issue. Not going to say that PFAS are a good thing. They need to be reduced in the amount of products that use them, but articles like these, like many before it, lead to undo fear mongering.
I've done research on these perfluorinated compounds (PFCs) and I'll chip in my two cents. Yes, PFCs have very long half-life (in the environment and our bodies) and are pretty much traceable everywhere, but we're not completely sure about their overall effects on humans and the environment yet (it isn't as clear-cut as it is proposed in this article--most are just correlations not causation). We should be cutting down our pollution, yes, but it's not the end of the world. Plus, the studies brought up here are only from one group and one article's not even peer-reviewed yet.
Calm down, people.
Calm down, people.
Great so we have been using these chemicals for years even though we now they are harmful.
Typical.
Just learning about this in this thread
what in the fuck.
How is this stuff not common knowledge if its this disruptive and prominent everywhere
Thanks for input.
what in the fuck.
How is this stuff not common knowledge if its this disruptive and prominent everywhere
Thanks for input.
Gotta balance out that previous thread with good news about immunity though
Key paragraph:
Both of the near finished vaccines use mRNA while PFAS have only been shown to interfere with spike protein based vaccines. So it's probably not relevant.
Also all the trials are done with real humans, not idealized ones who never had contact with PFAS.
Both of the near finished vaccines use mRNA while PFAS have only been shown to interfere with spike protein based vaccines. So it's probably not relevant.
Also all the trials are done with real humans, not idealized ones who never had contact with PFAS.
I said this in another thread by OP but they seem to have a habit of posting threads like this in this manner. This isn't the first time, feels like they're just posting articles all day everyday without much thought.
This is OP's schtick. Look at all the threads they've made over the last 8 months.
Yeah these vaccine trials are testing effectiveness within the general US population; PFAS levels within the US shouldn't be a concern.
Shhhh, you're ruining the media's attempt at creating mass hysteria.
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