Well, we were gearing up to a mass claim last phase already. He could also be partners with Kalor and tried to steer the lynch into somewhere else.If Malus fakeclaimed cop and cleared Fat4All and soft cleared Fran what was his play here (in regards to the targets), to get Kits killed?
Also if Kits is supposed to find scum how is she still alive? Did Scum think she was just going to keep using it on town read players and that they'd be safe?
Btw who got marked today, was it Fran or Malus?
Fran was my prime suspect for a partner with Meat due to D1 votes, but so far no one other than Gorlark commented on that.so voting out kits/mal today?
ne other candidates?
who could be working with meat?
Fran was pretty quick to challenge Meat's claim (with some caveats) but Meat was pretty much a goner so that could be Scum Fran trying to get some town cred.Fran was my prime suspect for a partner with Meat due to D1 votes, but so far no one other than Gorlark commented on that.
I haven't looked at malus' interactions with Meat or Kitsu tho.
Kalor needs looking at too.so voting out kits/mal today?
ne other candidates?
who could be working with meat?
Kitsu never getting blocked (and still being up after scum roleblocker got off'd) is weird, yeah. But like I was discussing with Fat4All earlier, do you see scum! Kitsu suddenly fake claiming like she did on D2?
didnt mind the meat lynch and didnt want to start another wagon to give ppl a chance to get off the meat vote.Kalor needs looking at too.
Why didnt you vote yesterday Zeke?
that would be the only other situation I could think of, I mentioned it earlier todayIs it possible that there is only one scum left and another neutral still afoot? It would also explain why there apparently was no scum on the Mao train D1.
I honestly do not know. I could buy either of the claims. My role seems to compliment Malus's, but he could have designed it to contrast intentionally. Fat is a weird one and this game is filled with weird roles.Sorry for not being as active. For day end I probably only can join the last 20 minutes again.
Kitsunelaine
Do you believe one of malus or Fat is lying?
....that and I already had a detect at Gorlak so I know he isn't who I'm searching for.As for who I bet is Scum vs Neutral, Gorlak gets Scum points because to his credit as a player he's been at the forefront and very visible, trying to guide the game. That would be perhaps a touch brash for a Neutral whereas Fran has been playing too conservatively.
Do you see any motivation for either as scum to come out today?I honestly do not know. I could buy either of the claims. My role seems to compliment Malus's, but he could have designed it to contrast intentionally. Fat is a weird one and this game is filled with weird roles.
Do you see any motivation for either as scum to come out today?
Not really, as in all I can come up with are rather outlandish ideas.
I was wanting to hear yours because you ask an awful lot of questionsNot really, as in all I can come up with are rather outlandish ideas.
First of all Malus had no reason at all to claim. He wasn't under scrutiny, etc. Trying to protect the other scum member? Nah.
Than Fat didn't have any reason either. He was cleared by Malus, so ???. If you want to entertain wild neutral speculation, he did that to force a lunch and survive until tomorrow? Doesn't sound safe. Or to get the cop lunched? Fat hasn't been present early game and he was mainly looking at monkey yesterday. I tried to get more out of him but he did not share more views. The rather sudden unvote was also bothering me. Anyway, people are always suspicious. I do not think he'd claim out of nowhere to antagonize here.
but I was actually wanting to hear your thoughts
So?I was wanting to hear yours because you ask an awful lot of questions
for someone throwing a lot of shade at people that never goes anywhere - this is suspicious af.
I'm here as well, I'd like some kind of direction from you though. I'm clearly pointing at you.Honestly I think I'd rather lynch outside of those two but I'm not sure who.
How so, go more in depth.So?
for someone throwing a lot of shade at people that never goes anywhere - this is suspicious af.
Do you see any motivation for either as scum to come out today?
Interjecting here but I agree with Kalor on this. Like I mentioned, we were gearing up for a mass claim last phase already. Fat4All claim came after he saw that contradiction, so it's the better looking one to me.We're getting towards the end of the game so it'd make some amount of sense for scum to claim today and try to cement themselves with a claim early, rather than save it for the endgame where more information is known.
Vote: EzekelRAGE
Also I'm 2/4 for the ppl I had on my list soooo.......So?
for someone throwing a lot of shade at people that never goes anywhere - this is suspicious af.
Honestly, yes.
I want to know more about her role because she said some things but there is a lot of holes in that claim.
Are these two questions above about those holes you mention? I'd say we already went through these back on D2.I want some answer from Kitsunelaine when she gets up:
1- I want you to clarify about the "weird spooky things" that you are looking for. Without quoting your PM, how did you know that they are a neutral?
2- Why did you said that you were looking for a single player?
Feels like you're asking questions for the sake of asking questions and not because those questions are worth asking.
Are these two questions above about those holes you mention? I'd say we already went through these back on D2.
Why do you think ppl aren't looking into the flip,Vote: EzekelRAGE
We have a scum flip which no one is looking into. Your empty question above is nothingness. We have info roles coming forward. You are fishing for town's defensive and want other nk targets for scum so they can leave this kits/malus/fat triangle hanging.
"Easily made a play"? Why do you say this and why didn't scum do it if it was an easy thing to do?Gorlak would I be neutral or partners with meat? If the latter, why did I not try to save meat?
I could've easily made a play to save meat by starting another wagon on monkey or kalor. I also would've gotten away with it too.
my strongest scum feeling today is on Gorlak, for reasons I gave earlier today (I can pull um up if you want)
Fran's questions are not unique; they have already been answered.
Are these two questions above about those holes you mention? I'd say we already went through these back on D2.
And D3. I've been grilled thoroughly on my claim to the point where I'm literally out of words.
Which brings me to this.
Vote: Fran. Bowing out of Mafia with a self vote is probably a dumb idea, so I'll stick to my convictions. Heavy scum reads for Fran and Gorlak. Between them, I think one of each is either Scum or Neutral and I would be happy to see either one go tonight. Backup plan is Kalor.
Please value my time and look it up yourself. You're the one who wants the information and it's just as easy for you to look it up as it is for me to look it up.
Please value my time and look it up yourself. You're the one who wants the information and it's just as easy for you to look it up as it is for me to look it up.
that's a leap based on attempting to lay out a game theory just based on everyone telling the truth with said theory containing massive caveats that I don't necessarily believe them
Then you clearly have not looked hard enough. I feel like I've been over and over this and I don't exactly want to have to do it again.
*I* could've Easily done it- in my situation I could've done it easily. Hadn't voted yet, had reason to vote outside of meat. At some point votes were 4/meat 3/monkey. Could've voted to save meat."Easily made a play"? Why do you say this and why didn't scum do it if it was an easy thing to do?
what I find interesting is that I don't think malus mentioned a limit on his cop shot ability