Fact-check: Is PA not counting ballots that arrived after 8 p.m. on Election Day?

[Kschreck]

So according to this article, Trump may be able to have PA ballots that arrived after 8PM on election day to be thrown out due to PA election law. Trump kept PA from updating their election policy and of course deployed the post office shenanigans. If Trump wins this Supreme Court ruling (which is within PA election law) would that shift the state back to red?

Here is the article:

Fact-check: Is PA not counting ballots that arrived after 8 p.m. on Election Day?

Justin Clark: “Major decision protecting voting rights in Pa. Ballots received after Election Day will not be...

www.statesman.com

 

[Lump]

I thought they haven't even been counted yet anyway so it wouldn't even make a difference. They've been segregated.

 

[Htown]

my understanding is that all these late votes were already kept separate

 

[Thequietone]

PA hasn't counted them yet and have already separated because they knew the GOP would try to throw them out plus there isn't enough of them to change the results even if they did.

 

[ClickyCal']

They purposely segregated all of those knowing this could happen, and those won't even matter with as far up Biden is.

 

[Steel]

They were already separated and don't account for a large amount of ballots.

 

[Contramann]

Trump lost even without those ballots. It's a worthless line of attack.

 

[thefit]

They are segregated, they wouldn't change the election and would probably further embarrass him. This is just click bait.

 

[entremet]

Come on, people. Go in the Biden megathread to vet these these. You're just causing anxiety for doomposters lol.

We live in a disinformation age.

 

[Lump]

It's like responding to a checkmate by taking an opponent's unrelated pawn off the board.

 

[III-V]

This was anticipated ahead of time and these ballots were set aside to be counted last.

 

[Kschreck]

Alright thanks for the updates everyone.

 

[Heroicpiglet]

so he lost a 2nd time, sweet

 

[Version 3.0]

Still waiting for Trump to flip and demand these votes be counted. And then claim they were all for him, and that he wins (again).

 

[Musubi]

PA hasn't counted them yet and have already separated because they knew the GOP would try to throw them out plus there isn't enough of them to change the results even if they did.

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Yeah isn't it like 2000-3000? Wouldn't even touch Biden's lead.

 

[Sheepinator]

They tried everything they could to stop people voting, and to stop votes arriving in time. Then they tried to have their own electors ignore the will of the people. Then they refuse to accept the result, and cry about fraud while providing zero examples. And 70 million Americans support this.

 

[MonoStable]

What if they counted the ballots and Trump actually won PA but the courts ruled to throw them out 😆😆

 

[Thequietone]

What if they counted the ballots and Trump actually won PA but the courts ruled to throw them out 😆😆

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Biden is up by 40k votes in PA and rising. These votes that came in late are a small amount, like 10k at most. It won't change the outcome at all. Republicans seem to think it's 40k for some reason and have been counted already but in reality they're still counting "regular" ballots and have separated these ballots since they came in and have remained uncounted because PA knew they'd pull this shit. They most likely won't be thrown out but they won't change the outcome at all in either direction.

 

[dmgdbug]

wow let me quickly believe all the bad news i can read

 

[Sheepinator]

Biden is up by 40k votes in PA and rising. These votes that came in late are a small amount, like 10k at most. It won't change the outcome at all. Republicans seem to think it's 40k for some reason and have been counted already but in reality they're still counting "regular" ballots and have separated these ballots since they came in and have remained uncounted because PA knew they'd pull this shit. They most likely won't be thrown out but they won't change the outcome at all in either direction.

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Is it 10K, or is that your guess?

My guess is they will ultimately be thrown out. Republicans will appeal to their Supreme Court and the SC has consistently come down on the side of state legislatures, so what's in the state law will stand.

What gets lost in this discussion is that this was Trump's attempt to steal the election. He had his stooge delay the USPS on purpose, knowing those votes would be mostly Biden's. If Trump were in the lead by a few thousand right now, he could have stolen PA's 20 electoral votes.

 

[Walter White Walker]

Your own source says "mostly false," OP, and outlines why that's the case.

 

[Thequietone]

Is it 10K, or is that your guess?

My guess is they will ultimately be thrown out. Republicans will appeal to their Supreme Court and the SC has consistently come down on the side of state legislatures, so what's in the state law will stand.

What gets lost in this discussion is that this was Trump's attempt to steal the election. He had his stooge delay the USPS on purpose, knowing those votes would be mostly Biden's. If Trump were in the lead by a few thousand right now, he could have stolen PA's 20 electoral votes.

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I forget the exact number I just remember the late mail in ballots is a small amount so my 10k is being generous. It's definitely not 40k like some of Trump's followers believe and would need in order to flip the state. My main point is the amount isn't enough even assuming all of them are votes for Trump which is unlikely.

 

[Volimar]

If he exhausts every other argument, I wonder if he'll demand they be counted in the unlikely event it could tip it back to him.

 

[NaudiRajah]

Last I heard there was 8k ish of em.

 

[Sheepinator]

It's entirely possible those votes are 50/50 Republican anyway. The early mail-in votes were closer to 80/20 Biden. The late ones might be 50/50.

 

[Morrigan]

Looks like OP's question got answered