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Have Sony got away with it again? First with the PS4 PS Plus multiplayer requirement - now with PS5 almost doubling software prices

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Mr_F_Snowman

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Was looking for the best deals on Demons Souls to pick up with my PS5 and its £70 everywhere. That's double what I paid for Shadowfall at the PS4 launch.

Seems like its being completely ignored in the hype of next gen both here on Era and also by all media outlets in a similar kind of way that the PS Plus requirement for multiplayer did last gen. Sony is putting out some incredible software but this ridiculous price hike is just too much (and all while they are making more profit than ever from their gaming division). Basically going to be left playing Astro Bot and PS4 games until PS5 games hit the second market. How do others feel about this? Why has everyone been so quick to accept this as the new normal? And am I part of the problem? I'm buying a PS5 but there is no way on earth I'll be buying anything new if their prices remain so abhorrent. Are others in the same boat?
 
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Interrobang

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I bought Demon's Souls for full price because holy shit Demon's Souls, but that's the last game I pay $70 for.
 
Lemony1984

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I wonder if the price increase will push people back to physical and trading in/selling their games?
 
Phendrana

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@dedmunk said:
They didn't double prices tho
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Maybe not in the US. OP is in the UK, and prices have damn near doubled here in Australia, too. From consistent $69 launch games to $124 in some cases.

Polymerization said:
I think you forgot to factor in inflation since 2006 when game prices last changed
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I think you forgot to factor in that wages haven't increased at the same rate. Or that the audience for gaming has grown considerably, meaning publishers can make more money selling to bigger audiences. Or that they've also come up with other means of making money from games, often with predatory practices. Or that digital sales now make up at least half of all games sold, which is a much better margin for them than bricks & mortar. And that all of these publishers are posting record profits pretty much every year.
 
Hyun Sai

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It's been decades since my last math classes, but "almost doubling" sure did have a different meaning then.
 
Prine

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I find the lack of HDD options for PS5 games to be more egregious tbh. But £70 a game isn't something I can get used to, that definitely stings. I'd have thought the disk based games would be cheaper though no?
 
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$60 USD -> $70 USD. Pretty sure that's not double.
 
Omnistalgic

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Hmmmmm?
If you don't see the value in these games and their costs don't buy them. I certainly think paying $70 for demons souls is worth the money. It's a game I'll put over 200 hours into, it connects me socially to millions of other people, it's a technical marvel and I find a lot of value in it.
So I guess I'm letting Sony get away with it.

I certainly won't be paying full price for everything.

also maybe this should be targeted towards other markets outside US. Literally only went up $10 for us in the states.
 
wartime

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I believe Shadowfall was £52.99/€59.99 MSRP at launch. Just FYI.

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Lord Azrael

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If you'd like to send them a message then don't buy their games until they're on sale

They'll only "get away with it" if you let them, so I hope you do something about it and don't just stop at complaining on an online message board
 
Foffy

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Just wait until they're at prices you find comfortable. I haven't seen jack shit that's worth $70, and that's before we consider a lot of these games will have season passes and further monetization models...

We all probably have some backlog of some sort. No big deal. We're in the middle of a pandemic and if you're in America, you're in a depression. Games can wait.
 
Jamesac68

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Every new generation sees this same stupid complaint, that games go up in price. And every generation, long about 4 years in or so, mid-budget gaming returns as the new consoles become cheaper to develop for and get enough userbase to justify a greater mix of games.

And far too many people forget that SNES and Genesis cartridges ran $60.
 
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Mr_F_Snowman said:
Yes it was. It was their showpiece launch title, maybe you are misremembering
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If Killzone was 35 pounds on the UK, then it was 40 euros here. That's been the difference always and that's nowhere close the full priced games (69.99€).
 
G_Shumi

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I don't really understand the price hike specifically for Demon's Souls either. Is it because it's not a cross-gen game like Spider-Man: Miles Morales and Sackboy? Those games are published by Sony too but they're not $70.
 
Prine

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Jamesac68 said:
Every new generation sees this same stupid complaint, that games go up in price. And every generation, long about 4 years in or so, mid-budget gaming returns as the new consoles become cheaper to develop for and get enough userbase to justify a greater mix of games.

And far too many people forget that SNES and Genesis cartridges ran $60.
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Then Sony came along and showed us £35 games instead of £60 ones.
 
Tomo815

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Sony confirmed to be anti-consumer? /s

OP at least now you know how Nintendo fans feel like lol
 
BoxScar

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I know it's not comparable 1:1, but I bought Demons Souls for PS3 day of release for £30.

Obviously the hype right now is huge, so give it a year and we'll see how comfortable people are at paying £70 for each new game. I certainly won't be buying anything for that price.

Watch Dogs Legion is £35 in the UK just now for the disc version, which is half the price of a first party title. It is insane when looking it like that.
 
MrTired

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The pound sterling was also far stronger in 2013 pre Brexit than it is now. I believe Sony developed games where £45 digital which ended up going to about £55 digitally before before the end of the generation.
 
Phendrana

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Anyway, to answer the question OP - I'm sucking it up for launch, but I'm not going to be buying games Day 1 anymore, even if they eventually settle at ~$90 AUD.

I just don't see games as a good value at that price.

Tagg said:
$60 USD -> $70 USD. Pretty sure that's not double.
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Not reading the OP and therefore not understanding -> Reading the OP and understanding
 
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Noisepurge said:
Yeah, OP is just comparing some special pricing vs full priced this time + inflation. It's a 10$/£/€ increase, not 50%.
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This is what I'm wondering about. I'm wondering where OP got Killzone for £35 in the first place. It certainly wasn't directly from Sony. Sony was asking £52.99 for KZ at the PS4 launch and now they're asking £69.99 for Demon's Souls at the PS5 launch. That isn't double. I don't know why they're not blaming whatever retailer they were getting shit for cheap from before
 
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