Does your role PM state that? How do you know?
that fits with you being scum so i mean
Like Muffin said we still have Fando/Stan who are likely similar as well.For God's sake don't make this be the reason we lose this game.
(Well, in case of Natiko... you know)
The last time we had conflicting claims in this game, we found scum.
How is town universal backup x 3-times simultaneous town backup with multiple night commands not a conflicting claims scenario?
You gonna ignore VA?What possible reason could you have to be able to use two commands at the same night?
He definitely did. He copied the entirety of my powers - even the shots I had already used.4G in a car, wouldn't Muffin have inherited a roleblock from Loki?
Because I asked Geno, since Loki had a RB. I was not allowed to use the RB along with Hack and Copy because of the limit.
I'm not ignoring VA - I literally talked about it above.
Then why didn't you use the RB on another night?And I already told you about the RB, even its damn flavor name
It would require literally one loop.I'm not going to throw out a vote for Muffin. It would require a lot of loops and believing that Geno would purposefully screw with a Mod Confirmed role.
Lol you using the fact Geno forgot about it as argument? Of course its not normal, you wont find a copier role in normal mafia games either.Even Geno didn't think VA could use both commands at first. That's not normal.
I remember you giving us the name now that you mention it, but man there is a lot to keep track of in this thread and the events made iso searching posts a lot less useful than it usually would be.And I already told you about the RB, even its damn flavor name
I still have it. I wasn't sure who to use it on.
lol
Yeah and it's the Mod breaking the rules. I get this is a Bastard game but even that is far fetched.
I could see a copier getting both powers when the mod lied to us literally on the first event.Yeah and it's the Mod breaking the rules. I get this is a Bastard game but even that is far fetched.
No, it's not. It's a bastard game.Yeah and it's the Mod breaking the rules. I get this is a Bastard game but even that is far fetched.
I'm not going to disagree that there's overlap - they're just not outright counterclaims in my opinion.For God's sake don't make this be the reason we lose this game.
(Well, in case of Natiko... you know)
The last time we had conflicting claims in this game, we found scum.
How is town universal backup x 3-times simultaneous town backup with multiple night commands not a conflicting claims scenario?
I will say that Muffin's power seems crazy strong comparatively to most town roles. Especially with his item removing the limitation of robots. If we believe he could copy kits normally he could have been a mod confirmed town with a roleblock, two cop checks, and two switches as well which is fucked lolFand could be another harmful neutral. We don't know what he was, and the dichotomy with Stan tells me he was lying when he claimed to me.
I don't know how many times more powerful you are than malus - that's not the issue. The issue with malus is simply that your role is redundant with his in the game.
You're too powerful by yourself.
What possible reason could you have to be able to use two commands at the same night? If you'd copied Kits, would you be able to use three commands at the same time?
Punishment being less severe than stated at first and "Lol, this modconfirmed town is actually scum" are very different levels of bastard.I could see a copier getting both powers when the mod lied to us literally on the first event.
I can see him getting both powers as well, that's not what i'm arguing. I'm saying that if Muffin is Scum then his Mod Confirm being Megaman is some rule-breaking garbage.I could see a copier getting both powers when the mod lied to us literally on the first event.
Changing a Scum!Muffin name during a Mod Confirmation is a whole different level of bastard.
And can you tell me, "what level of bastard is this game"? No, no you cannot. "Geno wouldn't..." swings both ways at this point, and I'm not willing to assume anything.Punishment being less severe than stated at first and "Lol, this modconfirmed town is actually scum" are very different levels of bastard.
I can see, I think, where you're coming from. Saying "All for One is Mod Confirmed Town" is one thing. Changing "Megaman" to "All for One" is another.Changing a Scum!Muffin name during a Mod Confirmation is a whole different level of bastard.
I'm gonna quote this again and also:I wanna state I'm 99% sure Neeks is town and the same for Fando.
You're wrong, but I can't tell you why.
You're right that I didnt get the alignment check since I can't copy items but wrong that something was missing from Lokis PM for me.
I guess there will be a lot of complains to Geno when the game is over, then.Copying a Mod Confirm as Town is one thing but this also requires Muffin's potential Scum role name to be changed as well.
Fando I understand (I'm starting to agree there's a minigame for the final death of each faction), but why Sawneeks?I wanna state I'm 99% sure Neeks is town and the same for Fando.
I can not answer that.Fando I understand (I'm starting to agree there's a minigame for the final death of each faction), but why Sawneeks?
Well, I guess I'll go join Stu soon enough.
You're a great player, Stu.
You can't answer why you're sure Sawneeks is town?
Yes. I'm unable to answer that.
Uh, okay. I'm barely keeping up with the thread with my limited time so naturally I'm not 100% up to speed for all the reasons Swamped is being voted for, so I rather looked at something that is easier to understand. But I have time right now, so I'm gonna reread the last couple pages with more care anyways. If I don't find anything better, I'll probably go with LP, because I'm just worrying there.
Shit it's hard to decide and I need to place a vote soon. I don't have too strong feelings on either Swamped or Aeleus. I think Swamped hasnt said much of value and was pretty passive under pressure, and that OMGUS vote is not helpful either. With Aeleus that whole exchange with Fran about scumreads is a weird argument.
He just fell there at the end.I have to go away for an hour in like 3 minutes.
Shit, I dont really have a very big impression of the two besides what I mentioned.
VOTE: Swamped
Mainly because Swamped seems awfully complacent compared to Aeleus who way more actively participates. Is a bit in line how I imagine scum to act after they lost a member already.
lolBrazil, can we adress the immediate concerns? Sawneeks is up for a lynch and the day ends soon. You're welcome to go on a "Muffin is the real scum" spree the next day.
TheChuggernaut clarify for me, does your power say whether it announces who gets the item or not?
Do you mean that in a game sense or you actually won't be here tomorrow.