Lol i like how you pinged what is probably a burner account.
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House of Horrors Mafia |OT| Are You Afraid of the Dark?
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Lol i like how you pinged what is probably a burner account.
Why does their have to be a target for the tracker to do their thing though? I don't think you're lying, but I am confused.
It's just beginners luck that I'm playing this well
Look, if Sorian is going to give you a precautionary claim as Sleepwalker, just in case some Watcher is watching, or some Tracker is tracking,
and we're going to accept that hypothesis,
then we'll play with the same assumption and say, "look, watch us, we're tasty night kill options"
Look, if Sorian is going to give you a precautionary claim as Sleepwalker, just in case some Watcher is watching, or some Tracker is tracking,
and we're going to accept that hypothesis,
then we'll play with the same assumption and say, "look, watch us, we're tasty night kill options"
I know, right? Maybe sparks thought about making an alt but gave it up as against the rules lol.
Ayyy lmao not worried about dying? Fine, the claim wins a pass for day one. Because scum may worry about protection but there's still two peeps to aim for.
Still waiting for edge to make me think my vote should move.
Good morning.
Vote: turmoil7
Still not picking up any townie vibes from Turmoil. Not that I've been picking any up from Kopite either, but Turmoil is worrying me more because of how sure I usually am about my early reads on him.
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Brazil vs. Chuggs is meh, wouldn't want to vote for either of them yet.
Was that an actual claim from Sparks/Rover? I can't tell, it happened so fast and so flippantly that I just don't know.
Vote: turmoil7
Still not picking up any townie vibes from Turmoil. Not that I've been picking any up from Kopite either, but Turmoil is worrying me more because of how sure I usually am about my early reads on him.
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Brazil vs. Chuggs is meh, wouldn't want to vote for either of them yet.
Was that an actual claim from Sparks/Rover? I can't tell, it happened so fast and so flippantly that I just don't know.
If i'm on record as disbelieving sorian's claim, do i get more points for believing yours or disbelieving it?
Oh. That's....actually not such a terrible plan. Except you outed it so now everyone knows. Which means people won't play along. But it also indicates that you sorta believe sorian's claim itself. Do you? You, rover? I don't care what sparks believes just now.
Would it be easier to remember if he put his Rover avatar back on?
Yeah no. You're just telling scum to go kill elsewhere.
This seems like a self defeating plan.
The more I think about the sleepwalker claim, the more I don't like it. Town-Sorian would have no way know which team has the Watcher. If scum don't have one, they certainly know now that town does, which they didn't before the claim. Sorian would have to be tracked to a consequential target/action before becoming an issue, so I really don't see how the claim helps.
Tracker is a semi miller in that they're designed to give false information so it makes sense to claim it early. Miller claims also inevitably inform mafia there's a cop of some kind.
I kinda feel that this helps us avoid some misinformation though. Surely this helps a town tracker? I think getting sleepwalker claim out the way avoids a kerfuffle later.
They certainly are both claiming it at this time. Either Rover just jumped in on a strange claim or they coordinated it somewhere else together.
Could it be a scum move, yes of course. It does permanently tie them together. Also Rover is entirely capable of making up weird false claims as town. Dunno about sparks, never played with him before.
Still not sure why any alignment would claim lover and not mason. It is an 'unusual' game so maybe there's reason.
Maybe because I was a tracker in my last game (with TheChuggernaut as a Sleepwalker), but IME the kerfluffle AFTER being tracked (which might not even happen) is better to deal with than risking a town PR.
A town tracker would only bring it up if sorian conveniently visited a mafia night kill. A scum tracker is better off NOT informed that alleged-town-sleepwalker exists. A town tracker therefore would conclude town-sleepwalker, who visits a not-dead person, is not a killing role, and therefore ....well not a killer. And wouldn't out them as a power role. Not without good reason.
I believe that the game has accepted the hypothesis. He could himself be a watcher/tracker/etc. making some sort of inverted claim (but let's not get too crazy with assumptions right now).
Was going to say it's hard to believe anything Sparks says but Rover confirming at least means they are in contact behind the scenes. Judging from Rover's attitude which is basically a word version of slapping his ass and saying come get some, I'll take a wild guess and say you're masons and not lovers but whatever. That or you have some other thing going on like one of you is an additional PR as well. (Sorry, not sorry, for probably blowing up your post).
This post made me laugh though and deserved its own quote.
My role name is "The Neighbor" and my flavor has the word "voyeur" in it. Not sure why you thought that was some euphemism or reference but yes, that is directly what I am claiming. For reference, the extent of my knowledge for Twilight Zone was seeing the spreadsheet and hanging out in mod chat, I never firsthand read any of the game.
I'm confused on if you're trying to somehow leap in logic to a jailor or if you were making a bad pun that makes no sense with the rest of the post.
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Meant to grab AB's post as well, one sec.
Same boat. Gutsy move for sure, but it panned out pretty darn well for them. It helps they were town though.
They also behaved as town, unmistakably, imo.
Not sure sparks/rover can manage to do that given their individual propensities.
If town has the tracker or watcher then 9 times out of 10, scum has a ninja anyway. I highly doubt I told them anything they didn't already know.
How am I risking a PR exactly? Knowing what roles are in the game doesn't put anyone at risk. If anything, it helps credence to their claim later (or to a scum fake claim but that suicide if they know they'll be counter claimed.
You said something like this last night to. I think you are assuming I'm a chess master with information that wouldn't make sense. The only way scum Sorian would know there is a tracker or watcher to even care about is if the scum team had a way to counter it (ninja) and if we had that, why even bother when they can just hide the kill trail anyway? Past that, you'd have to assume I took this cover route because....? You can go read when I'm scum, I purposely never take the first few night kills for this reason, I have no reason to try and cover for moving on a kill because I hardly ever do.
(Quoting both since you're making the same point)
Fair enough. I was just of the impression that scum can captilise on the chaos of a tracker latching onto a sleepwalkers and yelling scum.
I can see both your points though. I had been focused on the later impact and not the current one.
Also the last game I was in had 2 sleepwalkers and my phone is apparently now autocorrecting sleepwalker to sleepwalkers. This is going to be fun.
Uh huh. I'm sure that, given enough time, you can come up with many other fabricated reasons to scumread me like this one, but that's not what I asked you.
What was scummy about my first post? Stop avoiding the question.
Holy shit lol.
That's about where I am too, though it's more based on that it makes absolutely no sense to me to claim as Lovers out of no where.
Never thought you needed a reason to lie beyond getting some practice in....
You know better, I don't lie for the sole sake of lying, I have to be getting gain from it.
Lol you took that conversation with chuggs so seriously.
I said that one player's single-post was obviously town and another was obviously scum, FOR NO REASON. Because it was funny. And chuggs, whom i was talking at, laughed and then we moved on to something important.
Why are you so worried about yourself? Ive already accepted your 'weekend' explanation of your absence in the first two hours of the game.
This must be an area where we do not think alike. I will place this under consideration.
So you came up with two separate and contradicting reasons for scumreading me in different posts, and it was all in jest? And you're accusing me of not scumhunting?
Right.
Yeah, the issue here is definitely the fact that I'm "worried about myself", and not that first you said you said this:
Then you contradicted yourself by saying that what I had said was scummy:
Then you lashed back when confronted about it:
And now, finally, you're saying "I was just joshing geez, there's nothing to see here", when not a single one of those three posts give any indication that you were joking.
The last one above is particularly interesting, since you could've just used it to say that you were joking in the first place, but instead you went to "I can scumread you for multiple reasons at the same time."
I wonder why I'd be so focused on someone flip-flopping this much about me when the only information I have in the game in my own alignment.
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==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
TheWorthyEdge (1 votes)
TheWorthyEdge - #79 #159
weemadarthur - #95
turmoil7 (1 votes)
Fantomas - #306
Lone_Prodigy (1 votes)
saenima - #94
TheChuggernaut (1 votes)
Brazil - #102
saenima (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #109
Sorian (0 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #52 #57
turmoil7 - #56 #109
Kopite (0 votes)
Fantomas - #176 #306
Not voting: Verelios, Vincent Alexander, Comrade Doggo Sparky, Kalor, Geno, WhySoDevious, Ty4on, Rover, Olinad, Aeleus, AbsolutBro, TheWorthyEdge, Girlofgotham, Lone_Prodigy, TheChuggernaut, Kopite, Sorian
Post Counts:
TheChuggernaut: 57 weemadarthur: 41 saenima: 21 Fantomas: 21 Brazil: 20 Comrade Doggo Sparky: 18 Sorian: 17 Rover: 14 Verelios: 13 Kopite: 11 Girlofgotham: 10 Ty4on: 8 Olinad: 7 turmoil7: 6 Kalor: 6 Aeleus: 5 AbsolutBro: 4 Vincent Alexander: 4 Lone_Prodigy: 2 TheWorthyEdge: 2 WhySoDevious: 1
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Day Start
TheWorthyEdge (1 votes)
weemadarthur - #95
turmoil7 (1 votes)
Fantomas - #306
Lone_Prodigy (1 votes)
saenima - #94
TheChuggernaut (1 votes)
Brazil - #102
saenima (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #109
Sorian (0 votes)
Kopite (0 votes)
Not voting: Verelios, Vincent Alexander, Comrade Doggo Sparky, Kalor, Geno, WhySoDevious, Ty4on, Rover, Olinad, Aeleus, AbsolutBro, TheWorthyEdge, Girlofgotham, Lone_Prodigy, TheChuggernaut, Kopite, Sorian
Post Counts:
TheChuggernaut: 57 weemadarthur: 41 saenima: 21 Fantomas: 21 Brazil: 20 Comrade Doggo Sparky: 18 Sorian: 17 Rover: 14 Verelios: 13 Kopite: 11 Girlofgotham: 10 Ty4on: 8 Olinad: 7 turmoil7: 6 Kalor: 6 Aeleus: 5 AbsolutBro: 4 Vincent Alexander: 4 Lone_Prodigy: 2 TheWorthyEdge: 2 WhySoDevious: 1
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I hate non-miller D1 claims because, as someone who historically almost never rolls PRs, I tend to romanticize the "claiming in the nick of time" moment, but both Sorian's and Rover's/Sparky's make enough sense that I'm not interested in touching them too much today.
How does Rover/Spark's claim make sense on day 1 with little to not heat? All I'm seeing is Rover trying to make a flat comparison to my claim and I'm still not clear if this was discussed beforehand or if Sparks just went off the cuff and Rover adjusted. I feel like Xbro did the same in love boat 2 iirc and Rover was good at just rolling with whatever when he actually got back to the thread.
I don't agree with it, but I can't see the angle for scum there. That shit could fall apart at any second if it's a lie.
Yeah i'm not sure that it's a scum play either. Tethering each other like that is too risky i think. But i also don't buy the explanation given.