Thank you.
I understand your point of view although I see no reason to fall in line with it.
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House of Horrors Mafia |OT| Are You Afraid of the Dark?
- Thread starter Natiko
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I understand your point of view although I see no reason to fall in line with it.
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==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start
Vincent Alexander (2 votes)
Brazil - #1,308
Girlofgotham - #1,452
Kopite (2 votes)
weemadarthur - #1,140 #1,349
Kalor - #1,245
Sorian - #1,472
Faddy (1 votes)
TheWorthyEdge - #1,448
Rover (1 votes)
Sorian - #1,166 #1,167
Olinad - #1,454
Brazil (1 votes)
Faddy - #1,205
Aeleus (1 votes)
Kopite - #1,461
TheChuggernaut (1 votes)
weemadarthur - #1,349
Kalor (1 votes)
Sorian - #1,167 #1,168
TheChuggernaut - #1,254
weemadarthur (1 votes)
EzekelRAGE - #1,145
Sorian (1 votes)
Rover - #1,165
Sorian - #1,168 #1,169
TheWorthyEdge (0 votes)
Sorian - #1,267 #1,472
Not voting: Vincent Alexander, Comrade Doggo Sparky, Ty4on, Aeleus, AbsolutBro, Lone_Prodigy, saenima
Post Counts:
Sorian: 80 EzekelRAGE: 51 Comrade Doggo Sparky: 41 Rover: 40 weemadarthur: 36 Faddy: 32 Olinad: 26 Vincent Alexander: 22 TheChuggernaut: 19 saenima: 18 Girlofgotham: 15 Kalor: 14 Kopite: 14 Brazil: 10 Lone_Prodigy: 9 Aeleus: 8 Ty4on: 7 AbsolutBro: 7 TheWorthyEdge: 4
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Day Start
Vincent Alexander (2 votes)
Brazil - #1,308
Girlofgotham - #1,452
Kopite (2 votes)
Kalor - #1,245
Sorian - #1,472
Faddy (1 votes)
TheWorthyEdge - #1,448
Rover (1 votes)
Olinad - #1,454
Brazil (1 votes)
Faddy - #1,205
Aeleus (1 votes)
Kopite - #1,461
TheChuggernaut (1 votes)
weemadarthur - #1,349
Kalor (1 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #1,254
weemadarthur (1 votes)
EzekelRAGE - #1,145
Sorian (1 votes)
Rover - #1,165
TheWorthyEdge (0 votes)
Not voting: Vincent Alexander, Comrade Doggo Sparky, Ty4on, Aeleus, AbsolutBro, Lone_Prodigy, saenima
Post Counts:
Sorian: 80 EzekelRAGE: 51 Comrade Doggo Sparky: 41 Rover: 40 weemadarthur: 36 Faddy: 32 Olinad: 26 Vincent Alexander: 22 TheChuggernaut: 19 saenima: 18 Girlofgotham: 15 Kalor: 14 Kopite: 14 Brazil: 10 Lone_Prodigy: 9 Aeleus: 8 Ty4on: 7 AbsolutBro: 7 TheWorthyEdge: 4
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This is believable, because a keyword modifier would be just like a tag added to your role. It could just as well be a letter or a color, since it's rather arbitrary.
So I do believe that is correct, there is technically no additional info about what "filthy" means; i.e. it has no additional mechanic to it besides being a word.
However.....
If you had the keyword d1 (which is what you're suggesting here), then we must assume you started the game with it.
Now, that is significant, and I think that's where you are omitting some information.
If there is something about your role, or your alignment, that warranted starting with the modifier, then the modifier does seem to be associated with something. That's what I'd like to confirm.
FWIW? In a horror movie, the filthy and gaunt ones are usually monsters and vampires.
I'm not a fan of the shade thrown at Chuggs. He came out looking as the townies in his battle with Brazil as Brazil went very aggressive while Chuggs responded a bit confused why he was pushing so much.
His reads aren't super detailed, but they feel honest and he's not bullshitting with extra reasoning. Regarding turmoil he's at first hesitant, but gets more confidence seeing others are thinking the same.
Wee feels like a premature lynch; that claim was not provoked and did nothing to make her look town, heck she admitted she thought it meant she was recruitable. She acted kinda odd after the claim, but Occam's Razor says it was a town move to give more info about the modifier.
His reads aren't super detailed, but they feel honest and he's not bullshitting with extra reasoning. Regarding turmoil he's at first hesitant, but gets more confidence seeing others are thinking the same.
Wee feels like a premature lynch; that claim was not provoked and did nothing to make her look town, heck she admitted she thought it meant she was recruitable. She acted kinda odd after the claim, but Occam's Razor says it was a town move to give more info about the modifier.
The role card says "filthy [role name]". That's it. That's all there is. It didn't match the sample PM which had no adjective.
If it's associated with more roles you won't find that data under my info. Just under the ones that interact with those modifiers. One of which we can reread any time.
Which is it. It doesn't make me look town, or it does. I can't understand this sudden change at the end.
For making you look more town I meant as in claiming a role. When you claim a role it makes you more likely town since you can be counter claimed, but that's not a worry with a modifier.
You lost me here. Like I still want wee flipped on merit of her play but what are you on about? Yes, some people "randomly" (not truly random because it was chosen by a human probably for balance purposes) were immune to the SK and that would have obviously started D1, that is all.
I'll assume you didn't read HvV which is probably for the best but it's the same as the blood type mechanic. Two people did not have blood specifically to counter the neutral.
I understand that, the question is why you have the modifier. You're obviously not going to tell us what your role is, especially if it's the (extremely believable) assumption that filthy and gaunt roles are scum.
I'm lurking as I reread from D1, but nothing is jumping out at me strongly. There are posts that might look bad in hindsight, but they're D1 stuff so it's easy to look past.
Kalor still feels 100% like his neutral play in HvV but I can do better than that for a day 2 lynch, it was fine for day 1 especially when no one else wanted to move votes anyway.
I kinda forgot what he looks like as scum to be honest, I just remember pushing him and getting a mislynch ._.
Spoilers:
Because X number of town and Y number of scum had to be immune to Fanto
Because a neutral that cannot target scum is very plausible? What an....odd....conclusion to reach.
I definitely want to lynch in the Brazil, Aeleus, Olinad world today. I think all 3 of them have aligned in certain arguments.
I would also put AbsolutBro with them and maybe Edge as well.
My kopite/kalor scum reads have dropped off quite a bit and I see some town qualities, more in kopite than kalor but then I am never great at reading kalor.
I would also put AbsolutBro with them and maybe Edge as well.
My kopite/kalor scum reads have dropped off quite a bit and I see some town qualities, more in kopite than kalor but then I am never great at reading kalor.
Lol? Claims = town is a terrible meta, and I'm against it continuing.
This is sort of my thought, but I didn't really see any reason to separate town/scum into filthy/gaunt. Why not use one single modifier? (Filthy xor gaunt)? I mean, that's probably a question for Natiko after the game ends, but it should at least make people keep in mind the possibility of another role that interacts with one or the other key word.
It's plausible, that's why I also floated it but it's not a good assumption right now. What makes it plausible is if there is another very pro-town neutral or scum is very underpowered, neither of which can be gauged at this time.
But yeah, trying to make it a sticking point on D2 with 3 flips is not the way to go.
I told them to keep quiet, maybe they are listening to me. Darn me anyway.
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I cannot imagine which arguments I would have aligned with Brazil, Aeleus or Olinad. I'm not sure I've had direct conversations with any of them.
I suppose I could be included for coasting, for which I cannot fault you.
So does better gameplay, and it doesn't expose the town PRs to the scum team(s).
yeah general lack of interactions and how you present some arguments I am finding a bit scummy but not enough to make you someone I would concentrate on today...
And why do it with a modifier, in that case, instead of just writing it as "can't target mafia"?
Reading through VA. On his first day the only thing that jumps out to me is his late vote on turmoil when things were pretty much decided on that point, after his weird Edge vote. He has since justified his Edge vote.
This is a good post...
...that would put himself on the spot. Brazen scum or just innocuous?
A back and forth with Gotham and Brazil over this last post and his vote on day 1, where i think he comes out ok.
Now this:
I don't like it. Kop could be soft claiming or merely using a role to illustrate a point. What town shouldn't do here is try to extract the answer to that doubt. Leave that for scum to figure out. So i read this VA post as real scummy or bad town play.
Admittedly, this is not much to go on. On balance, VA reads townie to me.
This is a good post...
...that would put himself on the spot. Brazen scum or just innocuous?
A back and forth with Gotham and Brazil over this last post and his vote on day 1, where i think he comes out ok.
Now this:
I don't like it. Kop could be soft claiming or merely using a role to illustrate a point. What town shouldn't do here is try to extract the answer to that doubt. Leave that for scum to figure out. So i read this VA post as real scummy or bad town play.
Admittedly, this is not much to go on. On balance, VA reads townie to me.
I don't actually think there's an actual hard rule here like filthy=town and gaunt=scum (which if that is what happened Natiko, don't do that again and I extend that out to the reviewers as well). It's very likely this is in the realm of don't read into flavor and this haunted house wanted some dirty people and some hungry people to fill in the fun text.
Well Zeke is one. wee also seems to think she saw some other people mildly hint at it. But what does this have to do with anything? With how precious people acted at wee claiming it, some of the newer folks probably think it would be bad to claim it even though odds are the mechanic is now dead with Fanto and does not matter.
There's also the obvious that scum probably don't want to claim it if they have any mind in balance because you know at least one person with this modifier is scum and you can lynch in that group until you find them if we actually had perfect info on who has the modifier and who does not.
Also realize that filthy and gaunt means nothing when you think about it which is why I asked wee the question I did when she first claimed. You can put those descriptors into a vanilla townie and they would still be a vanilla townie. This isn't some PR tell either.
Sleepwalkers can't shoot people. I can link you to the mafiascum page if my role has confused you.
Because then you have told someone at the start of the game what the scum faction is named which gives them too much information for not being in the scum team. It also directly makes them a pseudo cop as described above.
Why would people put themselves on the spot when we don't know if those modifiers were only for Fanto or if there is more to them? And what does it have to do with Wee whether other people claim or not?
What a weird line of questioning.
It is unlikely there is a cult, especially one that is immune to a serial killer.
I guess we're officially back at the "let's all conjure assumptions out of thin air" phase.
Is your vote gonna stay on Sorian?
And yeah, this too, in the world where what you say is true Rover then Fanto can never win this game, full stop.
As in not enough targets or not enough time?
I haven't done the math on that last one...
Says a man who is unsure what his alleged role really does, and whether it hurts the targets?
Ooooh now I'M a cult leader? Sweet. I might really enjoy that role. How much fun has wee been having? That would be good evidence.
More likely to miss and with two misses, there would not be enough time. If there was a growing faction of targets that were now immune, he would miss twice.
You or oli is who my vote will land on atm. You for earlier what we over.
Oli - in that group of ppl I listed earlier.
Bulk of posts seems to have to do with spec on when fanto would win.
Had to be poked to give thoughts on comments other than the fanto/busywork discussion
Vote: Olinad
I never thought my role hurt anyway. I thought I would maybe get a neighbor chat with a random person or get a voyeur report on an unknown individual. Neither happened N1 so /shrug.