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Space Lion

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This sounds like a bizarre statement but it's how I feel. Hopefully this is a safe space to express that feeling.

When I say I'm not sure if I'm pro-black anymore I mean it in the sense I don't care about black issues. I care. I deeply care. But caring about those issues and being pro-black feel so separate. Being pro-black feels like in itself a specific identity. I want to reject that identity.

A lot of black Americans today act like our shit doesn't stink. On social media you constantly see white people being referenced as "yt" people. Social media combined with the lack of justice in America's court rooms and streets is radicalizing black Americans to an extreme. Being black now, beyond the defenses of our own humanity, is so tiring. It's black this, black that. Constant checks on how black you really are. Always puffing up your chest, talking about how "our people" do it the best. Dr. Umar Johnson shows up on The Breakfast Club and it sparks another fucking argument about interracial dating. You've got black people talking about black people messing up the "gene pool" sounding like some bucktoothed klansmen. I think many black Americans today are truly morphing in to what we hate: supremacists. More specifically, the idea that black people are better than other races.

Over the past few months I've witnessed countless amounts of apathy towards the struggles Asian Americans are going through from black folks. Sometimes it goes beyond apathy and into full of hate towards Asians. You've got people that consume Asian cinema, animation, games, and food like it's water and they don't have anything to say to speak out for people that are down because of targeted racism, something you should be able to relate to, and

I'm not sure what this mindset has actually done to improve the lives of black people.

I'm an artist and hang out in a lot of artist circles. You've got so many artists now talking about human experiences and all the black artists are just talking about blackness. Black black black black. It is uniformly boring at this point. As a black artist you feel pressure to have to constantly talk about being black. In fact, it's the expectation. Meanwhile, other races get to make art besides their race. Look how limiting being a black artist is. You've got Ta-Nehisi Coates, a great writer, talking about making Superman black. Spike Lee? All that dude does is talk about blackness. Where's Pretty in Pink featuring black folks where people can feel normal? Every single goddamn black movie or show that comes out now is some fucking misery porn that hinges itself on the throes of black pain. How original. How unique. How utterly banal and will be forgotten in five years time. Lovecraft Country, that Janelle Monae movie, Them;etc. Where's the black positive tv shows or movies?

I'll always care about the struggle but I'm so sick and tired of anything and everything being defined by blackness. I feel so bad about feeling like this too. I don't know how to handle these feelings.
 

Stoney Mason

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Oct 25, 2017
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It sounds like you are in some kind of weird social media bubble where you think every black person feels the exact same way about every issue. Not sure what to say other than that.
 

Ctrl Alt Del

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Jun 10, 2018
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I'm not black but I don't think I've ever seen a black in the Americas being what I'd describe as supremacist. What I'll agree on, however, is that the argument that "interracial relationships" shouldn't happen, from a black POV, might be well-meaning, but it results in undue pressure on the black community as a whole.
 

Seesaw15

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Oct 27, 2017
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Terry Crews has an Era account?

You sound like you're online too much OP. Log off and read a book or something.
 

krazen

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Oct 27, 2017
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It sounds like you are in some kind of weird social media bubble where you think every black person feels the exact same way about every issue. Not sure what to say other than that.

Yeah, this part feels like part of the issue...

Over the past few months I've witnessed countless amounts of apathy towards the struggles Asian Americans are going through from black folks. Sometimes it goes beyond apathy and into full of hate towards Asians. You've got people that consume Asian cinema, animation, games, and food like it's water and they don't have anything to say to speak out for people that are down because of targeted racism, something you should be able to relate to, and

Since all the Black activist types I follow kept the same energy during all those hate crimes. The Hotep ones tho...
 

krazen

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Oct 27, 2017
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I feel like there's pressure to feel the same way, though? Or is that social media talking?

The same way as this?

Dr. Umar Johnson shows up on The Breakfast Club and it sparks another fucking argument about interracial dating. You've got black people talking about black people messing up the "gene pool" sounding like some bucktoothed klansmen. I think many black Americans today are truly morphing in to what we hate: supremacists. More specifically, the idea that black people are better than other races.

You need to purge thy feed of anyone who follows Hood Healer, Tariq Nasheed, Umar, Shaun King...
 

Pancracio17

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Oct 29, 2017
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I feel like there's pressure to feel the same way, though? Or is that social media talking?
Little bit of both? I mean, theres no doubt people like that exist, ive seen the sentiment on twitter, but Social Media shows you more of the type that you already follow and sorta digs you deeper into whatever rabbit hole you are in.
 

captmcblack

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Oct 25, 2017
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You sound like you're online too much OP. Log off and read a book or something.


Yeah, this is the ticket OP. Get off the Internet, get off social media, always remember that it's geared for interaction and not for introspection. Assuming this thread lasts long, watching it carefully.

I will agree generally that hoteppery and anyone in the usual online alkaline water grifting circles are bad...but they've not only always been bad, but also not really representative of what it means to "be Black" or "be pro-Black".
 

Sanka

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Feb 17, 2019
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I'm not black american but I don't really feel this way. Some people might say harsh stuff but often that's just them trying to vent. And I totally get that. If you are black you should know how frustrating it is to be black.
 

steejee

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Oct 28, 2017
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How much of this feeling do you get from you personal friends vs social media?

If it's mostly the latter, maybe just disconnecting would be hugely beneficial.
 

nsilvias

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Oct 25, 2017
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sounds like you got caught in some kind of algorithm online. it doesnt just affect covid denier, anti vaxxers, and flat earthers
 

TheMadTitan

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Oct 27, 2017
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You're conflating hoteps with pro-black.

Don't do that shit. We got a word for hoteps for a reason.
 

Stoney Mason

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like there's pressure to feel the same way, though? Or is that social media talking?

I don't follow or exist in social media outside of this forum and a little bit of Reddit so I have no idea what common consensus is on social media, but I know that a lot of people who over follow it tend to end up in weird thought spaces that seem to proliferate in those mediums.

I'm not defined by my blackness as a human being, but at the same time, I'm fully aware that other people who don't know me absolutely define me by blackness. That is America and that is never going to change. As far as ignorant thoughts, sure black people have plenty of those. My family included. That is not something unique to black people. Hang around any group and you will be exposes to their biases and prejudices.
 

Desi

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Oct 30, 2017
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I get what you saying in a against the Issa Rae "I'll vote for everyone black" kind of mindset, which she made fun of during her SNL appearance. I even agree about getting tired of Black Pain movies. But nigga get out those Twitter bubbles. Sometimes I am in black Twitter or Nigerian Twitter and shit gets wild. Don't let anyone take away your blackness but speak up if you feel people are being hateful to others. Except on yt. Like you capping for that?
 

Hoa

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Jun 6, 2018
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The vocal minority can apply to everything, even minorities within minorities. Be careful not to correlate the energy they put out with the general feelings of everyone. Chill folks aren't going to post as much so you won't really see them. Regardless of race there are going to be people with ideas you don't fuck with.
 

Nepenthe

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Oct 25, 2017
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Era ain't the place to discuss this, chief. Get out of social media bubbles that are having a negative affect on your mental state.
 
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