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IDontBeatGames

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You know what no one could ever have predicted? That a market based on imaginary ownership of infinitely duplicable jpeg images might not be end-game, long-term sustainable. As The Wall Street Journal reports, the NFT market is "flatlining," down 92 percent from last September. Which makes it just the most incredible time for Japanese publisher Square Enix, famed for properties like Final Fantasy, to sell off most of their Western-facing IP and studios to gamble on the batshit scheme.

Yesterday we learned that Square Enix is intending to sell Crystal Dynamics, Eidos Montreal and Square Enix Montreal to the monolithic The Embracer Group, along with IPs for games like Deus Ex, Tomb Raider, Thief, and Legacy of Kain. Why? Because, to quote Squenix, "the Transaction enables the launch of new businesses by moving forward with investments in fields including blockchain, AI, and the cloud." Which is to say, its previously announced desire to milk the NFT/blockchain market.

The WSJ doesn't mince words in its reporting. The opening line is simply, "The NFT market is collapsing." Citing not only that 92 percent fall in sales, but also the extraordinary drop of "active wallets" by 88 percent since November.

This is partly due, it seems, to the rising interest rates that are strangling the poorest, but in turn is causing the richest to be far less risky in their speculation. And you can't get much more speculative than betting on mass delusion of jpeg ownership.

Hilariously, as the WSJ reported last month, his reason for not parting with it for this over-payment of $14,000 is, "because I think the value of this NFT is far greater than you can imagine," and "whoever wants to buy it, must be worthy." Unfortunately for us, many games publishers are betting on this one-legged horse, and the consequences could be bleak. From Square Enix to Ubisoft to Sega to Team 17 to Zombie Atari to Konami to GameStop, this industry is thigh-deep in this bullshit.

NFTs were always going to be a bubble, and no doubt they'll have little spikes, resurgences of interest with each new nonsensical twist, reaching nowhere near as high as 2021's but allowing the True Believers to keep duping themselves and others for a while to come. But let's hope that this news of a market collapse is finally enough to scare the games industry away from this ludicrous money pit. We've reached out to Square Enix to ask if the news has given them any pause.
 

Kolx

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Oct 25, 2017
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they didn't spend that money yet so they can course correct. If this was a few months ago then this could have been a different story.
 

PlanetSmasher

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I mean they haven't even got the money yet, so they can always...spend it on other things if the NFT market continues to crash, as it should.

Tomb Raider wasn't making them any money, so this shouldn't change anything.
 

Brazil

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It's so trite that everyone seems content to completely skip over SE's ideas for investments in AI and cloud gaming for their little outrage over this story. It's literally in the same phrase where "blockchain" is mentioned, and yet, invisible.
 

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Wrexis

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Best case scenario is that they threw in the blockchain line to keep investors happy.
My own boss has to do that sometimes.

Worst case scenario is they actually believed it lol.
 

DontHateTheBacon

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That is assuming that they actually meant any of that word-salad crapola they said when explaining the sale. None of it is concrete at all, so it's easy to just say "shifting to blockchain and cloud" while you're doing something else entirely, but keeping an eye out on if that stuff actually pans out.

Have any shareholders actually held their companies accountable for not producing tangible results from these blockchain/NFT pivots?
 

Lump

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The thing that makes the NFT collapse extra hilarious are these big companies and big names that banked large on them, but since they're part of projects that take months and months to complete, they announce themselves as going in on NFTs when they've already sunk to the bottom of the ocean because there's no way to move the Titanic out of the way of the iceberg in time.
 

PlanetSmasher

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The thing that makes the NFT collapse extra hilarious are these big companies and big names that banked large on them, but since they're part of projects that take months and months to complete, they announce themselves as going in on NFTs when they've already sunk to the bottom of the ocean because there's no way to move the Titanic out of the way of the iceberg in time.

At least in Square's case they haven't spent the money yet so they haven't lost anything.
 

SageShinigami

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It's so trite that everyone seems content to completely skip over SE's ideas for investments in AI and cloud gaming for their little outrage over this story. It's literally in the same phrase where "blockchain" is mentioned, and yet, invisible.

Or. Or! We could derisively mock NFTs at every fucking turn so they go away, hopefully forever.
 

Raigor

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I would love to see Square Enix losing more than what they gained from selling Eidos
 

inner-G

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AI/Cloud investments could be ok for them (mobile is huge esp in Japan, imagine if you could play FF XVI or something by streaming it to your phone) but I think Square is 'shooting themselves in the foot' if they invest much into the NFTs/blockchain stuff.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Square is just lying about crypto stuff to get dummies to boost up their stock price I think.

But if they're not lying, that is very bad for their company.
 

Dark Ninja

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It's so trite that everyone seems content to completely skip over SE's ideas for investments in AI and cloud gaming for their little outrage over this story. It's literally in the same phrase where "blockchain" is mentioned, and yet, invisible.
Games Media is driven by dunking on people/companies for clicks. If the headline could be twisted to make it more negative they will. Even in this instance Square didn't even mention NFTs just blockchain which are different things when you look into it.
 

RochHoch

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Square dumped their Western studios because they were bleeding cash like crazy

It's not like they cant use the money on something worthwhile now
 

werezompire

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I was under the impression that mentioning blockchain was mostly just a buzzword said for the investors and they were primarily planning on investing that money into parts of their business that have been successful (like MMORPGs, mobile gaming, etc.).

It's not like they were having success with their Western companies. Better to sell them off to an organization that might be able to turn them around. Win-win for everyone around.
 

Yuntu

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SE didnt even mention NFTs, only blockhain and the sale wasn't for that ... but people somehow ignore that.
 

Dust

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Square, you can still invest those $300m in Final Fantasy Tactics 2.
 

NookSports

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There haven't been any compelling real life use cases for NFTs that I've seen tbh. Not surprised the market would collapse once the novelty wore off.

I think there is something there with NFTs, but the current grifters need to leave first
 

spineduke

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Games Media is driven by dunking on people/companies for clicks. If the headline could be twisted to make it more negative they will. Even in this instance Square didn't even mention NFTs just blockchain which are different things when you look into it.

There has been no other demonstration of the "Blockchain" outside of nfts when it comes to videogame companies, so it's a bit of a stretch to imply they had something else in mind.
 

Replicant

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These companies lookin g at NFT must not do any social media outreach. NFT and the conversation around them has been nothing but poison to consumers but CEO's are ignoring that and only looking at $
 

FrostweaveBandage

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It's so trite that everyone seems content to completely skip over SE's ideas for investments in AI and cloud gaming for their little outrage over this story. It's literally in the same phrase where "blockchain" is mentioned, and yet, invisible.

This. The cloud stuff should intrigue people the most, because it implies more efficiency for games like FFXIV. And they already do well with their AIs.
 
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