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Lindsay Ellis appears on The Financial Diet to discuss 'The Financial Aftermath of Getting Cancelled'
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absolute mindfart from my mind. meant Natalie.
So something else happened besides the incredibly stupid Twitter freakout about the dragon movie?
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SHE'S BEING SILENCED
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I see the knives are already out 3 minutes after posting so clearly watching the video isn't necessary for anyone to have an opinion.
Contra went on the Guardian and defended Buck Angel in the article again as just "a grumpy old man" or something
Sure I knew that, but the poster I replied to mentioned Lindsay as well.
She was "cancelled" over Avatar: the Last Airbender? Care to provide some context for those of us who can't watch?
Low effort OPs that just post a link and say "discuss" are explicitly against the ToS from what I recall.
Low effort OPs that just post a link and say "discuss" are explicitly against the ToS from what I recall.
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Damn. thats a fair amount of $$$$
I have shamefully fallen for clickbait and a dishonest OP to drop a steaming shit take.
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I can't imagine a job where you spend so much time interaction with social media is healthy mentally.
"Breadtube to reactionary grifter pipeline" is a tremendously ugly phrase and concept but on some level I feel that's what we're seeing with all this "I AM A CANCELED CREATOR!" bullshit.
The most recent big blow up that I'm aware of is her saying that all Asian-influenced fantasy looks and feels the same, in response to Raya and the Last Dragon. She caught a lot of flak for it and did not handle things gracefully.
Yes, I know. But you said that the mask fell from both Natalie and Lindsay these past two weeks, implying that she did or said something worthy of "getting fucked", as you so eloquently put it.
She posted this of Twitter:
People thought it was racist or inappropriate, I personally don't get the controversy...but here we are.
It's extremely funny to me how long she's dragging this out when it would have been forgotten after two days otherwise.
usually when people whine about being "cancelled", a good amount of people are against them or w/e... but iirc most people were on her side for the Avatar drama, wtf is she on about lol
Coming from someone who thought that her initial tweet didn't warrant any ire, but felt rather uncomfortable that it seemed like other Asians that were uncomfortable seemed to be getting their feelings brushed aside like they were some sort of blind hater (imo feeding into that typical occurrence where Asians speaking out about issues always seem to get brushed aside or put down)... it's just kind of ick to bring it up again as a bit of a "there-there" moment.
Yes, apologies should be organic, but the way she responded was not the way to go imo.
Coming from someone who thought that her initial tweet didn't warrant any ire, but felt rather uncomfortable that it seemed like other Asians that were uncomfortable seemed to be getting their feelings brushed aside like they were some sort of blind hater (imo feeding into that typical occurrence where Asians speaking out about issues always seem to get brushed aside or put down)... it's just kind of ick to bring it up again as a bit of a "there-there" moment.
Yes, apologies should be organic, but the way she responded was not the way to go imo.
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Lindsay Ellis? The woman who still has hundreds of thousands of Twitter followers?
Cancelled? lmao.
She was in no way "cancelled". The fact that she's trying to grift through that experience is pathetic.
Cancelled? lmao.
She made some half-baked take about YA media, The Last Airbender, & Raya, and got backlash and temporarily disabled her Twitter.
She was in no way "cancelled". The fact that she's trying to grift through that experience is pathetic.
Lindsay made a Twitter hot take comparing Raya to Avatar.
Backlash happened while she slept
She responded poorly which led to twitter dragging up every terrible thing she's ever done online
She responded via video essay
<time passes>
Something happened two weeks ago(?)
This video came out.
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She held up Avatar as the prime example of Asian myth-inspired fiction (it was made by white dudes), then doubled down when called out.
Then she made references to people that were criticizing her 'squinting' (which may not have been intentional but was LITERALLY THE WORST WAY SHE COULD HAVE PHRASED IT) and just kept doubling down until she temporally deleted her Twitter.
when Lindsay uses the same lines as right wing commonly does when they get "cancelled", i feel a statement such as mine is justified. no need for the condescension.
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This seems like a big nothingburger TBH, nor do I know who The Financial Diet is. Lindsey definitely wasn't cancelled for a dumb statement, she probably still has a lot of followers so this is just...kinda pointless and some dumb "there there" to another social media star, being hosted by a financial-focused social media star, and getting caught up in their own popularity or something. Bleh.
It's clickbait
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This. This thread is pointless; more people are catching up on her Avatar/Raya controversy than even watching the video that says there wasn't much effect.
This seems like a big nothingburger TBH, nor do I know who The Financial Diet is. Lindsey definitely wasn't cancelled for a dumb statement, she probably still has a lot of followers so this is just...kinda pointless and some dumb "there there" to another social media star, being hosted by a financial-focused social media star, and getting caught up in their own popularity or something. Bleh.
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This. This thread is pointless; more people are catching up on her Avatar/Raya controversy than even watching the video that says there wasn't much effect.
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Ellis said Raya and the Last Dragon was similar to Avatar the Last Airbender. People were upset because they took that as her saying a movie about Asian people is interchangeable with a show (made by white people) with a lot of Asian influenced themes and style.
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Someone cancel me, pls.
Whether or not it meets your personal definition of "canceled", acting like voluminous and targeted social media vitriol should be able to be waved off by the target or they're just making a big deal out of nothing is a hell of a tactless take.
I see. Not a good look for her.
lol bruh...
I absolutely understand that it must be overwhelming in the heat of the moment getting pinged on twitter by hundreds of people about Your Bad Take. Social media platforms are toxic like that.
It doesn't absolve you of criticism though? Especially after you doubled (tripled even) down instead of apologizing. And it certainly doesn't excuse playing victim for literally months now after the fact.
You had some bad tweets that you could have easily turned into a learning experience for yourself... maybe leaning into cancellation hysteria is more profitable though?
I absolutely understand that it must be overwhelming in the heat of the moment getting pinged on twitter by hundreds of people about Your Bad Take. Social media platforms are toxic like that.
It doesn't absolve you of criticism though? Especially after you doubled (tripled even) down instead of apologizing. And it certainly doesn't excuse playing victim for literally months now after the fact.
You had some bad tweets that you could have easily turned into a learning experience for yourself... maybe leaning into cancellation hysteria is more profitable though?
Mental note: become moderately famous then get cancelled for a couple days...
Like with most of these events the problem always comes with the response/doubling down. The initial controversy was small.
Some people were upset, and lots of general far right harassers jumped in to share their folders of collected dirt.
Did anyone watch her reckoning video?
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From the video:
ellis - "People don't realize I am a company. All the money from patreon goes back into company payroll. I have 7 employees and pay for 9 people's health insurance. All I really make is from my books". (paraphrased, timestamped)
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I'm aware of the original issue, I'm talking about this specific video and her speaking on the financial aspect of being "cancelled." Because given her own explanation video, and her Death of An Author essays, she doesn't really believe in the concept of being "cancelled" herself. So based on prior context, it's probably her speaking in the vein of those two rhetorical stances.
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