Oh yeah Fantomas claimed cabot's partner. Can't believe I forgot about that haha
Oh yeah Fantomas claimed cabot's partner. Can't believe I forgot about that haha
The Pikachu hat is pretty cool
I would say that's how I felt before I was 100% Town-read. Now though? My reads are here, people trust they are coming from a good place, I can evaluate without needing to be defensive. It's a luxury.I don't know how you can stand being 100% Town-read like I am right now. I find myself insufferable. A constant state of responsible agony
Where are you getting Tracker from?Also, I saw it mentioned earlier, but no, I don't think it's really worth speculating that scum know what the modifiers do. Heroes vs Villains is just a wildcard mechanic that could do anything, but most likely will end up in a couple of deaths in some way. It's interesting which is why a lot of us vote for it, but scum are going to aim for ones that they have the most concrete chance of speeding things along for.
Scum likely have a roleblocker, a tracker, a backup, and maybe something else. They might have JOAT or something, but power-wise, those are the ones that I think are safe to keep in mind.
i usually dislike harping on time stamps but we all voted at the same time. Their votes weren't there when I hit post.Ok, nevermind that. I was under the impression that she had been the first out of you three to vote for turmoil, but the fact that she voted after you two had basically decided the outcome of things regardless of Fran does make your point about her not waiting for the answer resonate a bit.
Hmmm
thought I quoted this but guess not. :xI can follow the reasoning of town reading them both and leaning towards the option that is less harmful to town. It's like if someone claims a red check and they deny it you always lynch the red check sorta thing. Fair enough. I still just have a hard time with the question that you don't wait on a response from followed by the 180 with the vote. In short..
I kinda hate your answer, but I can at least admit the reasoning for most of it makes sense if you come from a town v town perspective - though I would be curious to go back and check if you had turmoil listed as town prior to that or if that itself was also a 180.
You're practically me right now
You can't explain what Turmoil did, no. You can explain what you did during that time though. You mention that a lot of others town leaned on you on Day 1 and he was hard Town reading you then and that 'wasn't very suspect'. But isn't someone sticking out on Day 1 and saying, 'yeah, I trust this person a lot' suspect in itself? He took that trust in you a lot farther than anyone else did.I'm home and will go back through some posts today. Final catch up.
Why am I, as a townie, expected to explain what turmoil said and did at D1? I know he was making fake content on me at the beginning trying to pocket me, and settled into voting for me since I didn't suspect him that phase, but how can this be proven without getting into "WIFOM territory"?
He town read me at D1 and pushed for me as the leader until he got called out on his conflicting post about the "Fandorin train deflating" on #1059. After that, he mentions my name in a single other post as a way to link to a previous vote and THAT WAS IT. Not a single mention of me during the entire D2. He didn't entertain my posts or acknowledged my thoughts during that phase. But uh, what does that have to do with me? What exactly are the red flags you're seeing here?
You mentioned he was "weirdly town reading me for no reason", but that's not exactly it. He said he was hard town reading me on D1, when a bunch of other players at least leaned town on me. No reason to suspect that.
That lasted until he got called out on the weird post. Come D2 I posted a lot less and ended up not getting attention in the thread, so it didn't bother me when he didn't follow it up, considering most of the thread didn't and he made no actual reads list as well. I guess I could've have prodded him somewhere down the day, but most of the discussion surrounding him on D2 was about the breadcrumbs post and, like I said in my reads lists, that didn't get my attention since I had seen him do that a lot as town in past games.
Thanks I won it in Pokemon [Mafia]. I think Faddy is being "mind-controlled" by CeeCee since Cee was never formally reprimanded by a host for his "mistaken" "vote" formatting. I believe Cee used a Power on Faddy in broad Daylight and snuck it right past us. Why not vote against Cee? Because I admire such daring.The Pikachu hat is pretty cool
Which part of Faddy's friendliness made you vote for him? You never got back to me after I answered your complaint about my vote either.
i'll tell sweet little lies just for you, blargMany of you are too earnest with your posts. It only makes the game harder
On a more serious note, I am working on a new read list which I plan to share when I wake up tomorrow, so I'm not just turning into a shitpost machine with my Confirmed Town status, don't worry.
Right now though, I am perfectly fine with seeing any of Faddy, Fandorin, or Malus up for the lynch, nothing from them has changed my mind much yet about those Scum Reads today.
I do think there are other players worthy of suspicion, but for today I would like to target within that group which came out of that EoD looking the most suspect, which I believe there are good cases against all 3 that have already been made today.
I think I'm less interested in malus, but Faddy and Fandorin give us a good chance of hitting mafia again, I think, while malus and maybe rac are folks I would consider secondary targets.Right now though, I am perfectly fine with seeing any of Faddy, Fandorin, or Malus up for the lynch, nothing from them has changed my mind much yet about those Scum Reads today.
I do think there are other players worthy of suspicion, but for today I would like to target within that group which came out of that EoD looking the most suspect, which I believe there are good cases against all 3 that have already been made today.
I did get this one, though. Did this happen? Did y'all get a chance to talk in your boat?I want to discuss this with my boat partner and look back to the mess at the end of last phase.
Yeah, I'd personally vote between Fandorin and Faddy. I think I'd go Fandorin first for today as of right now at least, so I'd switch my vote there if need be to make it happen. Faddy has just really not made me feel good about where he is coming from here today though, so I like my vote where it is.I think I'm less interested in malus, but Faddy and Fandorin give us a good chance of hitting mafia again
LP is a lock because how else can you read 2 people replacing out without posting as anything but scum.
Rac has done more but not a lot. I liked a few of his posts on Brazil earlier in the game even if they felt a bit partnery. I would flip Brazil first and see where that goes. Rac is empty calories of posts where as L_P is starvation.
Kawl -> Nin -> LP and none of them posted shit? In my experience, NAI.
Kawl we mislynched in GoT for disappearing (I believe his slot was basically the same as this, nothing but inactive), he was Town.
Nin got mislynched in Brexit for ghosting out.
LP is a meme.
This is quite a contradictory stance. So you're not happy I went with Pirate Bae over more scum read people, but then lament that I just followed other peoples scum read? And besides, I even told in a later post, that the chart was only secondary in my voting decision.Outside of that I agree with the points made regarding Malus. I think his chart the other Day was fairly odd and his choice to go with Pirate Bae over the other, more highly scum read people even weirder as well. Using that chart as reference for his vote removes all choice out of his hands as he went with what other people said and how they ranked everyone. As I mentioned before as well I think him falling into this Phase 'being a little lost' is also very odd if he was Town considering we just flipped Scum in a rather crazy Day End.
Haven't given any thought to why Cabot died
She's back now, so I think we'll see more of her soon, just hope we see more from her other than this push on me. She doesn't seem prepared to see my flip.
Not in this case. I know I'm town so this doesn't apply to me.
But ok, everything is a WIFOM I guess.
More that she doesn't seem to have other leads to chase once I flip town. Not especially sold on her towniness yet, but I just meant I expecy more reads on other players.
Fandorin seems quite insistent to point out that he is town. Also he didn't bring anything new to the table so far and hasn't put forward any reads. Instead he spends most of his time defending Turmoils connection with him. This all doesn't read very good to me and puts him into scum territory.I'm home and will go back through some posts today. Final catch up.
Why am I, as a townie, expected to explain what turmoil said and did at D1? I know he was making fake content on me at the beginning trying to pocket me, and settled into voting for me since I didn't suspect him that phase, but how can this be proven without getting into "WIFOM territory"?
He town read me at D1 and pushed for me as the leader until he got called out on his conflicting post about the "Fandorin train deflating" on #1059. After that, he mentions my name in a single other post as a way to link to a previous vote and THAT WAS IT. Not a single mention of me during the entire D2. He didn't entertain my posts or acknowledged my thoughts during that phase. But uh, what does that have to do with me? What exactly are the red flags you're seeing here?
You mentioned he was "weirdly town reading me for no reason", but that's not exactly it. He said he was hard town reading me on D1, when a bunch of other players at least leaned town on me. No reason to suspect that.
That lasted until he got called out on the weird post. Come D2 I posted a lot less and ended up not getting attention in the thread, so it didn't bother me when he didn't follow it up, considering most of the thread didn't and he made no actual reads list as well. I guess I could've have prodded him somewhere down the day, but most of the discussion surrounding him on D2 was about the breadcrumbs post and, like I said in my reads lists, that didn't get my attention since I had seen him do that a lot as town in past games.
That was exactly my point in the original post, yeah.
Considering cabot was the one killed this was expected. Scum role blocked or whatever and prevented another check and went for a sorta odd kill to avoid protection with the NK on cabot.
Also I'm not a fan of this reaction by Brazil to rac not giving any reason for his vote and just accepts it. I guess he just assumes that rac has the same read as him, but that still looks pretty lazy to me.
I think I would be okay with a leader in Stan, Fando, Brazil, cabot, Kyanrute or Natiko.
Geno stated he would just follow majority if he was leader, which I don't agree with. On the other end Sorian stated he would pretty much ignore the popular consensus and go with whoever he felt like.
You misspelled StanleyPalmtree btw.
I could also get behind Fandorin as leader. I quite liked his kill list and he hasn't set off any alarms for me yet.
Not sure about cabot. I don't really agree with his point of eliminating hard to read players to get them out of the way.
You thought the rage would be that of a lion, turns out it was just that of a little kitten. Just cute with no real bite.
Alright I have to get something out:You thought the rage would be that of a lion, turns out it was just that of a little kitten. Just cute with no real bite.
Faddy any response to post 3456 or 3460?
This goes out to everyone except flux and Sorian.
You guys just cool with letting CC pass as town?
malus what do you think if the above post from cc?Faddy and Brazil are bad hombres for reasons many have already covered.
Saw is wishy, washy, buddy, and not as bossy as town!Saw.
Malus is giving me bad vibes.
Not that it matter much, but I wonder if any of the pairs were scum and scum. Or would that be purposely avoided
===========Please keep in mind that these chats can contain any combinations of alignments..
You can't explain what Turmoil did, no. You can explain what you did during that time though. You mention that a lot of others town leaned on you on Day 1 and he was hard Town reading you then and that 'wasn't very suspect'. But isn't someone sticking out on Day 1 and saying, 'yeah, I trust this person a lot' suspect in itself? He took that trust in you a lot farther than anyone else did.
I'm also not sure why you're framing his backing down from you on D2 as some sort of sign here. You even mention yourself that he started to back away when people called him out on the 'Fandorin train' post so having him continue that into D2 isn't shocking. In fact it's what I'd expect from a Scum player getting called out promoting a buddy too much to do.
I guess I could've addressed it on D1, but I never really do that when others town reading me. I didn't do that with any other player in the end. I think that if turmoil shared a reads lists on D2 and had me town read again I would've mentioned something or prodded him, since I played horribly at D2 and that would alarm me, but that didn't happen so w/e.Fandorin I'll sum it up like this. You were seemingly aware of Turmoil giving you a lot of good reads, moreso than anyone else, and yet didn't bat an eye at it. In a game where anyone can potentially be Scum and kill you I find it very difficult to believe you did not find that suspicious or weird in the slightest. Your actions tell me you didn't think that way and were more than happy to just let him trust you.
I think the post just repeats what is the general sentiment in this thread.malus what do you think if the above post from cc?
Would cc thinking you are scum explain the lite chat use?
If cc thinks you and faddy are part of a scum team, it is odd cc would voice that in the lover chat.
What happened to your Zeke rage? I was curious where that was going.
cool
Side note: blarg does raise an interesting point about there being no mod warning for the highlight use.
When cc made the post I expected some power to happen.
If cc is joat, he can't be town.I don't really think Cee's Mafia. A DayVig of/or a JOAT wouldn't be so out (t)here
EZubz though. You will be mine
You may as well just admit you have a PR role with a post like this. That is not the mindset of vanilla town.
This is fucking stupid.