Melee player Leffen is fearful of his safety at events and is contacting a lawyer about ssbmhax's 2.5 hour video and 136 page manifest against him.

[Deleted member 23158]

I'm not really involved with the Smash scene (I do like the games), but this is some wild stuff.

at this point i don't even know what to do. Legit concerned with my safety at events with this level of things. Will be looking into a lawyer before saying more just to make sure my bases are covered.

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Background of this is a 2.5 hour video and 136 page manifest by player Hax$ which can only be described by insanity. I honestly think the man needs help. So I'm not sure how appropriate this thread is.

This video decides the entire fate of the Smash community.

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The vid has Hitler and Lenin quote's. There are unironic Death Note comparisons. Claims of Leffen having a "Dark triad" personality type and profiting off the #metoo movement by standing in support of the victims.

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List of alleged charges below. To be clear, I think Leffen is in the clear, but this is to show how crazy the "charges" are.

Smash community as a whole is too fragmented to deal with shit like this in house but that player is seriously unhinged and something needs to be done about him

Saw the list of bullet points from the video, and jesus (#9 specifically should be enough to get this dude laughed out of the community for good)

Edit: UGH, of course there are too many people in the tweet replies going "HE'S JUST TRYING TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH"

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[The Boat]

Wtf is wrong with Smash's competitive community, holy shit.

Very late edit: I apologize if this seems like a dismissive driveby, but I think it's an understandable reaction given the amount of disturbing "news" coming from the community.

 

[demondance]

Oh boy. I thought it would be one of those stupid drama youtubers spending way too much time on Leffen. This is…. Scary in a very different way.

 

[Deleted member 1102]

"Man why doesn't Nintendo support the Smash scene?!"

 

[RecRoulette]

Smash community as a whole is too fragmented to deal with shit like this in house but that player is seriously unhinged and something needs to be done about him

Saw the list of bullet points from the video, and jesus (#9 specifically should be enough to get this dude laughed out of the community for good)

Edit: UGH, of course there are too many people in the tweet replies going "HE'S JUST TRYING TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH"

 

[aerach71]

The Melee scene is a parody of itself

 

[JEH]

is this some QAnon bs?

 

[VariantX]

Uh...please tell me that guy is banned from events...

 

[Fat4all]

if someone was that obsessive id be worried too

 

[Izanagi89]

"This video decides the fate of the Smash community"

jfc. What the hell is up with this community? It's just drama after drama.

 

[Meelow]

I love Smash as much as the next guy but....It's just a game, why are people like this?

 

[The Shadow Knight]

I get the impression that this hax fellow is not entirely in a proper state of mind.

 

[Richter1887]

Bro wtf is going on with this community?

 

[Strittles]

It's so fucked up. I'm legit worried about Leffen too.

 

[HMS_Pinafore]

I get not liking Leffen, but this goes well beyond that. This is some manifesto shit.

 

[demondance]

I dunno how much this can be seen as another example of the Smash community being fucked up… more like this one guy really needs help. Every excerpt I'm seeing from that PDF reads like the type of paranoia that only a psychiatrist can really help with.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

"Man why doesn't Nintendo support the Smash scene?!"

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Nintendo reading twitter threads like this with the sonIamdisappoint.jpg face.



This is some deep lore that's not ready for public consumption.

 

[Makoto Yuki]

I'm glad nintendo doesn't support this community.

 

[SanTheSly]

Heard about this like 10 minutes ago. Hope the guy gets the help he clearly needs.

This is worrisome.

 

[diakyu]

Local smash player attempts totalitarianism lmaooooooooo

time to close the computer, turn off melee, and just get some fresh air and maybe professional help. It ain't that serious

 

[MADSUPERVILLAIN]

Hopefully this isnt a thread people using this one dude who is obviously not of sound mental health to try dunk on the smash scene.

 

[UnluckyKate]

This is insanity. Hax as a serious personnal vendetta issue and this is way past dangerous

 

[kami_sama]

Is there a gaming community with more shit like this than Smash, specially Melee?

 

[entremet]

So QAnon nonsense?

 

[Zyrox]

There's being obsessive and then there's this. Holy christ! 2.5 hour video plus 136 pages. Like what the hell? How do you even find the energy for this?

 

[Tokyo_Funk]

Wtf is wrong with Smash's competitive community, holy shit.

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Hand them a bar of soap and watch the confusion.

 

[Aurc]

I don't even have words for this.

 

[Richter1887]

Nintendo reading twitter threads like this with the sonIamdisappoint.jpg face.



This is some deep lore that's not ready for public consumption.

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Nintendo is smart not to support the community. Heck at this point maybe Evo should stop. It is clear there is issues.

 

[Tpallidum]

I seen Leffen trending on Twitter and was trying to figure out why. Thanks for the thread op.

 

[Damn Silly]

Well, reading up on that, I hope that Leffen can stay safe, and that this Hax dude gets some professional care.

 

[RecRoulette]

Just seeing screenshots of this video, and damn, it'd be funny if I wasn't convinced this guy was a real danger to others. I feel bad for the folks who actually watched all TWO AND A HALF HOURS of this shit.

 

[J_ToSaveTheDay]

Fucking wow, that is some really disturbing stuff.

 

[alexi52]

This clip alone shows the levels of reach and delusion this guy has

 

[Richter1887]

Bruh

 

[Yuntu]

I can't

 

[Deleted member 56266]

The Melee scene is a parody of itself

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Smash*

Sorry, this is a common misconception. The Ultimate side is just as bad. The entire smash community has a history of questionable shit.

 

[Trust]

Jesus christ the Smash community is trash. These people need help.

 

[Deleted member 23158]

Just seeing screenshots of this video, and damn, it'd be funny if I wasn't convinced this guy was a real danger to others. I feel bad for the folks who actually watched all TWO AND A HALF HOURS of this shit.

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Yeah someone posted this would have been the greatest video if it was posted on April Fools.

 

[Village]

This is unsettling

Smash*

Sorry, this is a common misconception. The Ultimate side is just as bad. The entire smash community has a history of questionable shit.

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Please don't do this
Can you and others not turn a thread about someone's potential mental break and potential threatening of another person caused by clear a number of things into an anti smash community thread. Holy fuck

 

[astroturfing]

im so old i dont even understand why there's a "scene" or community around a videogame (and i love games), so thinking there's gamers issuing long videos and manifestos against each other is just... indescribably odd.

and a Smash beat em up game of all games? what in the world...? is it that amazing?

im so old i feel like giving up trying to understand the world around me, its hopeless lol.

 

[Bob White]

Reminds me of the guy of who sent a bomb to the singer bjork and filmed his suicide. This amount of obsession is not to be taken lightly.

 

[Deleted member 2752]

Leffen controls the MSM (Main Smash Media)!?

im so old i dont even understand why there's a "scene" or community around a videogame (and i love games), so thinking there's gamers issuing long videos and manifestos against each other is just... indescribably odd.

and a Smash beat em up game of all games? what in the world...? is it that amazing?

im so old i feel like giving up trying to understand the world around me, its hopeless lol.

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How old do you have to be to not know video game communities? They are as old as video games themselves!

 

[Rommaz]

I wish this was the greatest shitpost of all time, but in reality its a sign this hax guy needs very serious help.

 

[gunlovefiction]

Not even trying to be funny or anything but I think this man needs some medical help.

 

[Richter1887]

im so old i dont even understand why there's a "scene" or community around a videogame (and i love games), so thinking there's gamers issuing long videos and manifestos against each other is just... indescribably odd.

and a Smash beat em up game of all games? what in the world...? is it that amazing?

im so old i feel like giving up trying to understand the world around me, its hopeless lol.

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Think boxing but replace the sport with Smash.

 

[CognitiveAtrophy]

It's validating to know that for all my foibles I'll never be as weird as a Smash player.

 

[Theswweet]

Some people don't call Smash a fighting game because of the game itself, I say it isn't one because of the community. They're almost completely insular, and the diehards are insane. It honestly turned me off from the series in recent years.

 

[GamerJM]

The whole situation is just awful all around. Leff has to fear for his safety at events and Hax seems....mentally unwell, to say the least. There are no winners here.

And yeah, this is a pretty hyperspecific situation that I don't think makes sense to use to dunk on the Smash or Melee scene. Honestly, I haven't seen anything like this, in any scene before. I actually do think the Smash community has its problems (though in my experience the Melee side of things are usually handled better than the Ultimate side, probably largely due to older player demographics), but this isn't really related to any of those problems. This could have happened in any scene, there was no way to prevent it really.

 

[VariantX]

I hope he has people on good terms with him to get in contact with him to see if he's okay. Dude needs to be with someone who can give him professional help asap.

 

[Dreamyard]

And this right here is why Nintendo will not (and should never) work alongside competitive Smash. The last twelve months alone are proof in of itself that they can't be professional and will corrupt anything that they touch. Nintendo was wise to steer clear of them and this latest incident only makes it more clear.