Metal Gear Solid Mafia Redux |OT| I'll Die After I Kill You

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

Morning, fishies. (He says at 5 pm)

I just woke up. I have to get ready for the date with my boyfriend so I'll be catching up later.

I'll leave you with this: I'm a vigilante in name but my kills aren't guaranteed to be who I target. That's the reason I don't want a train on who I'm voting. I have to notify natiko if I want my vote to be active, and once it is I can't change it. I can however defuse it. I say bloodbath because there is a passive attached to my power if activated.

Maybe it doesn't happen, but I'm an open power role with killing potential that could work with a cop without being roleblocked, so why wouldn't mafia want to target me? :)

If they want to protect themselves, they could always just, idk, roleblock me to be safe, although that doesn't stop my day kills. It just means you have to use two actions to safely kill me. You know you want to. <3

Bye!

Ty4on · Mar 18, 2021

TheChuggernaut said:
What is the bigger picture? What has he contributed? Why are you town reading him?

The bigger picture of me. I picked Sparks because it was something that caught my attention, but you're treating it as if it's a grand conspiracy I laid out.

Maolfunction · Mar 18, 2021

Not sure it's worth going after anyone for their position on Sparks. I would like to see Ty4one get some thoughts on other players down at some point tho. Otherwise I'm not against voting there closer to EoD.

Ty4on · Mar 18, 2021

The way you're reading me is really weird, but ATM I'm leaning hyperactive town.

TheChuggernaut · Mar 18, 2021

Ty4on said:
The bigger picture of me. I picked Sparks because it was something that caught my attention, but you're treating it as if it's a grand conspiracy I laid out.

No I don't think it's a grand conspiracy, I think you're scum that's not putting in much work. What have you brought so far? You're trying to avoid a trap kill, and that's fair. I try to do that too, but there's legit nothing else here. You keep shifting the conversation away from the rest of the game to focus on Sparks for some reason, and you're picking and choosing which parts of my post to respond to.

Maolfunction · Mar 18, 2021

Feign said:
Morning, fishies. (He says at 5 pm)

I just woke up. I have to get ready for the date with my boyfriend so I'll be catching up later.

I'll leave you with this: I'm a vigilante in name but my kills aren't guaranteed to be who I target. That's the reason I don't want a train on who I'm voting. I have to notify natiko if I want my vote to be active, and once it is I can't change it. I can however defuse it. I say bloodbath because there is a passive attached to my power if activated.

Maybe it doesn't happen, but I'm an open power role with killing potential that could work with a cop without being roleblocked, so why wouldn't mafia want to target me? :)

If they want to protect themselves, they could always just, idk, roleblock me to be safe, although that doesn't stop my day kills. It just means you have to use two actions to safely kill me. You know you want to. <3

Bye!

unlimited number of potential kills?

Ty4on · Mar 18, 2021

TheChuggernaut said:
No I don't think it's a grand conspiracy, I think you're scum that's not putting in much work. What have you brought so far? You're trying to avoid a trap kill, and that's fair. I try to do that too, but there's legit nothing else here. You keep shifting the conversation away from the rest of the game to focus on Sparks for some reason, and you're picking and choosing which parts of my post to respond to.

Keep shifting? I've been talking for a very short amount of time.

TheChuggernaut · Mar 18, 2021

Maolfunction said:
Not sure it's worth going after anyone for their position on Sparks. I would like to see Ty4one get some thoughts on other players down at some point tho. Otherwise I'm not against voting there closer to EoD.

Yeah, the Sparks stuff isn't the primary reason I have the bad vibes there. Day 1 town reads are whatever. It's more the constant shifting of the conversation back to Sparks that's making me concerned.

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

Also, now would be the time to give me your thoughts on who I should vote for.

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

Maolfunction said:
unlimited number of potential kills?

No.

Ty4on · Mar 18, 2021

-No I don't think it's a grand conspiracy, I think you're scum that's not putting in much work.
Inactive
-What have you brought so far?
Inactive
-You're trying to avoid a trap kill, and that's fair.
I'm not sure what this means, I guess lunchbait.
-I try to do that too, but there's legit nothing else here.
You haven't told me that until now
-You keep shifting the conversation away from the rest of the game to focus on Sparks for some reason,
Answered
-and you're picking and choosing which parts of my post to respond to.
Happy?
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TheChuggernaut · Mar 18, 2021

Ty4on said:
Keep shifting? I've been talking for a very short amount of time.

Yes and this is how many times it happened.

TheChuggernaut said:
Okay, and now you're up there with him. How do you feel about that? Do you have any thoughts on who might be scum?

Ty4on said:
His play is also a bit different than normal and looks more pro-town so I wondered if that had an effect. Like has scum Sparks been seen trying harder to look good.

Sparks feels very relaxed replying to me so I'm not getting any scum reads from there.

TheChuggernaut said:
Okay, but what do you think about having votes on you? Who do you think is scum?

Ty4on said:
I don't think that's particularly strange.

I thought there would be more, but I guess people forget about those they can't see.
I dunno who is scum, but if Sparks is town that's a very easy vote for scum to make.

TheChuggernaut said:
Is that really the only place you're looking right now?

That's two separate times I asked about the rest of the game only for you to go back to Sparks and here's a bonus third question from me that you just skipped over completely

Ty4on · Mar 18, 2021

TheChuggernaut said:
That's two separate times I asked about the rest of the game only for you to go back to Sparks and here's a bonus third question from me that you just skipped over completely

I don't have any reads on the rest of the game, I'm not caught up. I don't think anybody's scum right now, I'm thoroughly in the early sorting phase.

Faddy · Mar 18, 2021

Yo the cat survived and did not turn into an Alien.

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

TheChuggernaut said:
Yes and this is how many times it happened.

That's two separate times I asked about the rest of the game only for you to go back to Sparks and here's a bonus third question from me that you just skipped over completely

Just from what I read to now, there were a few people who were suspecting you because your posts were very mild. Now suddenly you seem to be pushing very hard.

Do you normally shift your playstyle so hard when people suspect you or is it only when you're scum?

Faddy · Mar 18, 2021

Hawthorn said:
Also, thanks for answering, sorry I missed this before. Any games that you particularly liked recently?

Zem said:
Eastenders because of the theme and Among Us because of Blarg and you getting done over by scum, that was pretty entertaining!

That was sad. Entertaining but sad.

No reasonable person should have believed Blarg was mafia.

TheChuggernaut · Mar 18, 2021

Feign said:
Just from what I read to now, there were a few people who were suspecting you because your posts were very mild. Now suddenly you seem to be pushing very hard.

Do you normally shift your playstyle so hard when people suspect you or is it only when you're scum?

I do it when I have a read I think is solid and to get a better grasp on players. I did not have a solid read in the first couple of hours of the game.

TheChuggernaut · Mar 18, 2021

Ty4on said:
I don't have any reads on the rest of the game, I'm not caught up. I don't think anybody's scum right now, I'm thoroughly in the early sorting phase.

Alright. Well I'll be on the lookout for that.

AllThingsPurple · Mar 18, 2021

People I wouldn't vote today in no particular order:
Nin
Monkey
Maol
Ael
Ephi

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

TheChuggernaut said:
I do it when I have a read I think is solid and to get a better grasp on players. I did not have a solid read in the first couple of hours of the game.

They weren't from the first few hours, but if you say so I guess I gotta believe it.

Faddy · Mar 18, 2021

TheChuggernaut said:
Okay I can actually by that you're going for a play style change. Got my eye on you though

I was going to say didn't you get a town read on Ambulance super early in Eastenders but then I remembered you were scum and busy pocketing people.

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

AllThingsPurple said:
People I wouldn't vote today in no particular order:
Nin
Monkey
Maol
Ael
Ephi

This is a scummy as hell post. It makes me think you're scum and this is for WIFOM purposes if you flip. Do not like. There's no reasoning. Just a list.

TheChuggernaut · Mar 18, 2021

Faddy said:
I was going to say didn't you get a town read on Ambulance super early in Eastenders but then I remembered you were scum and busy pocketing people.

He was like super fucking town in Eastenders though. Probably would have made that read even if I was town. Him mixing shit up is something that tracks for me though personally. Willing to leave him alone for now

Faddy · Mar 18, 2021

TheChuggernaut said:
He was like super fucking town in Eastenders though. Probably would have made that read even if I was town. Him mixing shit up is something that tracks for me though personally. Willing to leave him alone for now

Fair. Not all reads as mafia are fake.

Ty4on · Mar 18, 2021

A Wild Ambulance Appears said:
Vote: Ty4on

Ty4on how do you feel about the game so far? Hope this isn't too cliché, but who would you protect, investigate and kill?

P: Feign
I: Chuggernaut
K: ?

Help I'm pocketed

TheChuggernaut · Mar 18, 2021

Also I do not turn up on demand, but don't scum read me for being too mild and then continue to do so when I turn up the heat a bit. I am not here for it and I will not humor it.

Maolfunction · Mar 18, 2021

Feign said:
This is a scummy as hell post. It makes me think you're scum and this is for WIFOM purposes if you flip. Do not like. There's no reasoning. Just a list.

who cares. townies can make lists with no reason attached to them, it's not an alignment tell to throw out a list of people in a game this big that you don't want to vote for on D1. players need to get a list of 27 down to like 5 or so people with basically no real information.

AllThingsPurple · Mar 18, 2021

Feign said:
This is a scummy as hell post. It makes me think you're scum and this is for WIFOM purposes if you flip. Do not like. There's no reasoning. Just a list.

Accept we were asked to make a list if people we wouldn't vote for.

AllThingsPurple · Mar 18, 2021

TheChuggernaut said:
Also I do not turn up on demand, but don't scum read me for being too mild and then continue to do so when I turn up the heat a bit. I am not here for it and I will not humor it.

I'll scum read you for whatever I want!

Vote: TheChuggernaut

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

Maolfunction said:
who cares. townies can make lists with no reason attached to them, it's not an alignment tell to throw out a list of people in a game this big that you don't want to vote for on D1. players need to get a list of 27 down to like 5 or so people with basically no real information.

This post literally says nothing lmao. If we're going off nothing than why is it a problem if I care how that post came off? It's all fair game, so why defend this particular post? It absolutely can be an alignment tell and has been in games I've played. Stop posting fluff.

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

AllThingsPurple said:
Accept we were asked to make a list if people we wouldn't vote for.

Fair, I have like a combined 10 pages I haven't caught up on. Why wouldn't Maol mention that, though?

Maolfunction · Mar 18, 2021

Feign said:
This post literally says nothing lmao. If we're going off nothing than why is it a problem if I care how that post came off? It's all fair game, so why defend this particular post? It absolutely can be an alignment tell and has been in games I've played. Stop posting fluff.

I'm defending it because I'm the one who asked for the lists.

games you've played does not equal this game in particular

TheChuggernaut · Mar 18, 2021

AllThingsPurple said:
I'll scum read you for whatever I want!

Vote: TheChuggernaut

go away

Maolfunction · Mar 18, 2021

Feign said:
Fair, I have like a combined 10 pages I haven't caught up on. Why wouldn't Maol mention that, though?

Because I'm dumb and assume people read the thread fully before attacking people.

EzekelRAGE · Mar 18, 2021

*truffleshuffle*

AllThingsPurple · Mar 18, 2021

Feign said:
Fair, I have like a combined 10 pages I haven't caught up on. Why wouldn't Maol mention that, though?

Dr. Monkey said:
Fate mentioned towncore and I think if nothing else Among Us for sure indicated the need for one. I don't know how others want to approach it but my thinking in a game of this size, it might be nice if we had our "I'm not voting here, probably" lists daily? Then we're not locking in within a bastard game and have already presumed flexibility and evolution but are also still trying to find town - and it gives people incentive to show towniness, which I think is the real lesson of that game.

Hawthorn · Mar 18, 2021

Zem said:
Eastenders because of the theme and Among Us because of Blarg and you getting done over by scum, that was pretty entertaining!

I'll admit it, it probably was pretty entertaining XD

Neki said:
The new theme of the mafia thread should be this:

Love it!

Feign said:
Morning, fishies. (He says at 5 pm)

I just woke up. I have to get ready for the date with my boyfriend so I'll be catching up later.

I'll leave you with this: I'm a vigilante in name but my kills aren't guaranteed to be who I target. That's the reason I don't want a train on who I'm voting. I have to notify natiko if I want my vote to be active, and once it is I can't change it. I can however defuse it. I say bloodbath because there is a passive attached to my power if activated.

Maybe it doesn't happen, but I'm an open power role with killing potential that could work with a cop without being roleblocked, so why wouldn't mafia want to target me? :)

If they want to protect themselves, they could always just, idk, roleblock me to be safe, although that doesn't stop my day kills. It just means you have to use two actions to safely kill me. You know you want to. <3

Bye!

Why did you decide to reveal all this info publicly so early?

Feign said:
This is a scummy as hell post. It makes me think you're scum and this is for WIFOM purposes if you flip. Do not like. There's no reasoning. Just a list.

Dr. Monkey said earlier that she was encouraging town to make a list of who they wouldn't vote out. A few other people made town lists, or town/scum lists that were just names. I know I did, and I remember seeing others as well. So why jump on this post in particular?

AllThingsPurple · Mar 18, 2021

TheChuggernaut said:
go away

So hostile.. reminds me of scum chuggs.

Lone_Prodigy · Mar 18, 2021

I mean, when you really think about, it's all fluff.

Lone_Prodigy · Mar 18, 2021

^about it

FateShirou · Mar 18, 2021

ok
lets go through the low posters

LP
4 posts, 2 of them state they are reading the thread

Kopite
Challenged Jman on their stan vote, and unvote
feign, stan and ael = town, sus on launch

Zipped
nothing besides post count?
seems pretty lackluster from what i remember of them from FGO

Zeke
lots of tuffleshuffles, expected of day 1
a hard post on maol (i feel its a tpyical maol-zeke interaction? maybe zeke was a bit too defensive)

Kalor
gave solid reads (post #671)
says maol leans too much into meta, and throws a compliment to monkey

Skyodin
townread on Feign
calls out stu

Honestly LP and zipped havnt done much? Zeke and Sky have one good post? Kopite went after jman, seeing if they return and finish it, Kalor made some good posts

I really dont want us to go into tomorrow without an clear idea of where our votes should go, last minute voting isnt good for anyone

Dr. Monkey · Mar 18, 2021

Feign said:
This post literally says nothing lmao. If we're going off nothing than why is it a problem if I care how that post came off? It's all fair game, so why defend this particular post? It absolutely can be an alignment tell and has been in games I've played. Stop posting fluff.

It's pretty common in this community and would say it's NAI.

But lots of people have given these lists so far. Why did you dislike ATP's in particular? Others were also sans detail. Is there something else?

TheChuggernaut · Mar 18, 2021

AllThingsPurple said:
So hostile.. reminds me of scum chuggs.

shoo

Dr. Monkey · Mar 18, 2021

Dammit, I hate it when I ask a question that was already asked because I didn't finish.

Feign's role claim is a big ???? for me. I'm not sure why you're baiting scum so blatantly. I'd say you're already in the top tier of everyone's townreads, so you already get a target. Why add on?

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

Hawthorn said:
I'll admit it, it probably was pretty entertaining XD

Love it!

Why did you decide to reveal all this info publicly so early?

Dr. Monkey said earlier that she was encouraging town to make a list of who they wouldn't vote out. A few other people made town lists, or town/scum lists that were just names. I know I did, and I remember seeing others as well. So why jump on this post in particular?

There are certain roles in particular I don't find beneficial to town and vig is one of them more often than not it fucks up a game for town. There's a reason VT is my preferred role. I mean there's the other reason I claimed, but that's not a town concern.

I already answered your other question. Read the thread ;)

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

Y'all are making me so late for my date. This is why I stopped playing mafia.

Also Maol's "just because it happened in that game doesn't mean it's this game" is more very basic fluff that says nothing. Real, "you know there's no I in team" vibes.

Hawthorn · Mar 18, 2021

Feign said:
There are certain roles in particular I don't find beneficial to town and vig is one of them more often than not it fucks up a game for town. There's a reason VT is my preferred role. I mean there's the other reason I claimed, but that's not a town concern.

I already answered your other question. Read the thread ;)

Do you mean this post?

Feign said:
This post literally says nothing lmao. If we're going off nothing than why is it a problem if I care how that post came off? It's all fair game, so why defend this particular post? It absolutely can be an alignment tell and has been in games I've played. Stop posting fluff.

This doesn't answer my question :-)

Maolfunction · Mar 18, 2021

Feign said:
There are certain roles in particular I don't find beneficial to town and vig is one of them more often than not it fucks up a game for town. There's a reason VT is my preferred role. I mean there's the other reason I claimed, but that's not a town concern.

I already answered your other question. Read the thread ;)

You played with some bad vigs then.

Feign said:
Y'all are making me so late for my date. This is why I stopped playing mafia.

Also Maol's "just because it happened in that game doesn't mean it's this game" is more very basic fluff that says nothing. Real, "you know there's no I in team" vibes.

Your posts here aren't exactly god's gifts to mafia either buddy

Feign · Mar 18, 2021

Hawthorn said:
Do you mean this post?

This doesn't answer my question :-)

I mean that and the post where I admitted I'm not remotely caught up so it was the first I saw, but okay

Literally okay

Like

Okay? Yes.

Dr. Monkey · Mar 18, 2021

Lot of people hiding behind the "oh, it's d1." I don't think this is anything like a typical d1. Lots of interactions, actual things going on, but not a ton of votes. Why? And why are the quiet d1 people even sitting this one out?

Don't love Ty's slide to defensive in that conversation. But not super sure I want to vote with Chuggs. Chuggs + Ambulance on a vote for Ty is interesting: at least there's unlikely to be any teams across that trio so there's that.