Mini Mafia VI: Unboxing The Truth

Verelios · Nov 7, 2019

Reki said:
Yeah, GIFs can only carry you so far... let's try something different then. From the roster this time, which players do you normally have an easy/hard time reading?

In my case I believe to have an idea of how exodus normally plays as town from past games, so I'm looking forward to him posting more.

On the other hand - and I mean no disrespect by this! - Funky Dude Sparks is normally hard to place. Jumpy playstyles are always an enigma for me.

Meta is going to be the death of me. I don't think I've played with Brian before and I might've only played or spectated 1 (?) game with Soneji and Reki. Fanto is always going to get side eye because his posts are naturally suss, and as for people I'm familiar with, that's the rest of the roster, especially my scum bro Exo. I have a feeling I'll get a read on how they're playing around midgame, and that's usually accurate.

Although I do have less of an impression on Ketkat, likely because I didn't live long enough to play her previous times.

Stuart444 · Nov 7, 2019

==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Reki (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #182

Ketkat (1 votes)
Maolfunction - #80

Stantastic (1 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #54
~~turmoil7 - #87~~ #103

Alexem (1 votes)
Verelios - #75

TheChuggernaut (1 votes)
Stantastic - #134

Soneji (1 votes)
Alexem - #162

Funky Dude Sparks (1 votes)
~~turmoil7 - #103~~ #182
Fantomas - #108

Verelios (0 votes)
~~Fantomas - #47~~ #108

언이라브 (0 votes)
~~turmoil7 - #61~~ #87

Not voting: Reki, Ketkat, Funky Dude Sparks, Soneji, exodus, 언이라브

Post Counts:
Fantomas: 28 turmoil7: 18 Funky Dude Sparks: 18 TheChuggernaut: 18 Verelios: 16 Alexem: 15 Stantastic: 11 Maolfunction: 7 언이라브: 6 Reki: 5 Ketkat: 5 exodus: 5

Current Countdown:

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Verelios · Nov 7, 2019

Fantomas said:
That shit was way too funny lol

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Just to get some conversations going here between now and when I get home, I would be interested to hear other players answers to Rekis question a few post above. Aside from that, tell me who is one player here you would want to investigate just based on Meta or how much you worry about their alignment. For example, if Monkey was here, she would be my answer every time. Since she isnt though, I would probably go with Mao or Chugg maybe.

Dont have much more time for now, I'll be back in a couple hours.

I would investigate Stan because I need to know if I can count on my nightime pal or if we should put on DST and throw him off the island. Otherwise, investigate Chuggs to make sure I'm not playing buddy cops while he's playing Game of Thrones.

turmoil7 · Nov 7, 2019

I would investigate someone unlikely to be NK, that would be sparks and uhh well I guess everyone else is on the usual early death camp 🔥

Funky Dude Sparks · Nov 7, 2019

When do we mass rolelciam again?

Maolfunction · Nov 7, 2019

My picks for a N1 investigation would be either Fanto, just to get a solid direction since his gameplay style is similar to a shotgun, or Sparks if he doesn't wind up being lunched today, as his eccentric playstyle does not lend itself to be read very well either.

Funky Dude Sparks said:
When do we mass rolelciam again?

Today. You first tho.

Funky Dude Sparks · Nov 7, 2019

Maolfunction said:
My picks for a N1 investigation would be either Fanto, just to get a solid direction since his gameplay style is similar to a shotgun, or Sparks if he doesn't wind up being lunched today, as his eccentric playstyle does not lend itself to be read very well either.

Today. You first tho.

*checks notes*

NO U

Maolfunction · Nov 7, 2019

Funky Dude Sparks said:
*checks notes*

NO U

Vanilla Townie.

Real easy claim in this format tbh.

Alexem · Nov 7, 2019

If I could investigate anyone right now, I suppose I'd be interested in checking exodus to see if he's being evasive intentionally, or Brian simply out of curiosity as a wildcard choice. (Naturally I'd like to hear from Soneji, too, since a whole day's gone past now.) I do tend to look towards quieter players early on in case anyone's trying to fly under the radar - in that respect, I might have wanted to check Reki or Ketkat as while they've certainly been contributing, it's been at a more measured rate. Of course, there's a difference between being coy and being busy IRL, so I don't want to jump to any conclusions just yet.

turmoil7 · Nov 7, 2019

So are we gonna ride some trains or not

TheChuggernaut

turmoil7 · Nov 7, 2019

turmoil7 said:
So are we gonna ride some trains or not

TheChuggernaut

VOTE:TheChuggernaut

Funky Dude Sparks · Nov 7, 2019

Vote: TheChuggernaut

let's see that flip breh

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

no stop I'm town

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

Funky Dude Sparks said:
Vote: TheChuggernaut

let's see that flip breh

This vote specifically is oof though

Funky Dude Sparks · Nov 7, 2019

TheChuggernaut said:
This vote specifically is oof though

YIKES

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

Funky Dude Sparks said:
YIKES

not a good look.

I'm torn because I would scum read anyone else for that vote, but it's also the most Sparks thing ever

Fanto · Nov 7, 2019

Oh thank god, people responded! I have some time to respond quick before I run an errand and make some food, then I'll be around for the evening.

TheChuggernaut said:
I think I've read Turmoil as scum in every game I've played with him so probably him

Do you have any thoughts on Turmoil so far here in this game?

Verelios said:
Meta is going to be the death of me. I don't think I've played with Brian before and I might've only played or spectated 1 (?) game with Soneji and Reki. Fanto is always going to get side eye because his posts are naturally suss, and as for people I'm familiar with, that's the rest of the roster, especially my scum bro Exo. I have a feeling I'll get a read on how they're playing around midgame, and that's usually accurate.

Although I do have less of an impression on Ketkat, likely because I didn't live long enough to play her previous times.

"Naturally suss" lol <3

Verelios said:
I would investigate Stan because I need to know if I can count on my nightime pal or if we should put on DST and throw him off the island. Otherwise, investigate Chuggs to make sure I'm not playing buddy cops while he's playing Game of Thrones.

What does "put on DST" mean? Your references are beyond me sometimes lol. Any thoughts on Stan or Chugg so far here, at least as far as D1 is concerned?

turmoil7 said:
I would investigate someone unlikely to be NK, that would be sparks and uhh well I guess everyone else is on the usual early death camp 🔥

Why do you think everyone but Sparks could be a target for an early death?

Maolfunction said:
My picks for a N1 investigation would be either Fanto, just to get a solid direction since his gameplay style is similar to a shotgun, or Sparks if he doesn't wind up being lunched today, as his eccentric playstyle does not lend itself to be read very well either.

I can't tell if this is a dig or a compliment, but I will take it as a compliment, thank you.

Alexem said:
If I could investigate anyone right now, I suppose I'd be interested in checking exodus to see if he's being evasive intentionally, or Brian simply out of curiosity as a wildcard choice. (Naturally I'd like to hear from Soneji, too, since a whole day's gone past now.) I do tend to look towards quieter players early on in case anyone's trying to fly under the radar - in that respect, I might have wanted to check Reki or Ketkat as while they've certainly been contributing, it's been at a more measured rate. Of course, there's a difference between being coy and being busy IRL, so I don't want to jump to any conclusions just yet.

Yeah, we still haven't heard from Soneji yet, eh? Hopefully he turns up soon, less than 24 hours to EoD now.

exodus · Nov 7, 2019

Oh man. Chuggernaut. So tempting.

Fanto · Nov 7, 2019

TheChuggernaut said:
oof

Funky Dude Sparks said:
YIKES

TheChuggernaut said:
not a good look.

This ain't it, chief.

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

exodus said:
Oh man. Chuggernaut. So tempting.

okay wait we can talk about this

turmoil7 · Nov 7, 2019

Fantomas said:
Why do you think everyone but Sparks could be a target for an early death?

What I tried to convey was that scum usually kills hard to lunch players, and I don't remember day phases where sparks wasn't up there as part of the menu, so if he is town by green checking him you make scum expose themselves more for the mislunches

Funky Dude Sparks · Nov 7, 2019

So far no one has defended Chugsy

fascinating

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

I'm not no one

Funky Dude Sparks · Nov 7, 2019

I meant no one else is defending Chuggsy bro

Fanto · Nov 7, 2019

I'll defend Chugg. There are very few scenarios I can think of where I would be willing to entertain voting for Chugg on D1. He's always among the most active posters, gives reads, places votes, all the things I would hope everyone does on D1. Now, are any of those things necessarily alignment indicative on D1? No, but I don't like taking those kinds of players out early because if they are Town then they will likely be an asset later in the game when inactivity and a lack of reads/votes can cause a player to be harder to get a read on regardless of their alignment.

Funky Dude Sparks · Nov 7, 2019

Fantomas said:
I'll defend Chugg. There are very few scenarios I can think of where I would be willing to entertain voting for Chugg on D1. He's always among the most active posters, gives reads, places votes, all the things I would hope everyone does on D1. Now, are any of those things necessarily alignment indicative on D1? No, but I don't like taking those kinds of players out early because if they are Town then they will likely be an asset later in the game when inactivity and a lack of reads/votes can cause a player to be harder to get a read on regardless of their alignment.

Unvote: TheChuggernaut

Fanto · Nov 7, 2019

As of this moment, I would say things are breaking down in my head like this:

Would Not Vote Today:
Chugg
Turmoil
Verelios
Reki
Mao
Alexem
Brian (new player, not gunna oust him on D1)

Might Vote Today:
Ketkat
Stan

Would Vote Today:
Exodus
Soneji
Sparks

Chugg I just explained above and I mentioned feeling Townish on Turmoil so far earlier.

Verelios I will need some more time, assuming Scum doesn't just kill him on N1 to continue the meme. Mao falls in this pile as well, I want to observe him and his votes more before just tossing him out.

Reki/Alexem I don't have much experience with and would like some more, not really looking to vote either out this soon.

Not much to work with from Ket and Stan so far, so we'll see how those reads develop as we move towards EoD.

Exodus has been largely fluff posting so far, Soneji hasn't made a single post yet, and Sparks I mentioned somewhat earlier but it's mostly Meta based. Those are all fine contenders for a D1 vote so far in my opinion.

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

Speaking of voting

Vote: Reki

They're just playing a lot more subdued than I'm used to and it's making me nervous. Posts are kind of fluffy too

Reki Give some thoughts about the game, friend.

Fanto · Nov 7, 2019

TheChuggernaut said:
They're just playing a lot more subdued than I'm used to and it's making me nervous. Posts are kind of fluffy too

Can you quote me an example of what you mean when you say Reki feels "subdued"? They've only made 5 posts so far, and while the first few were pretty normal early game talk, I thought the latest were pretty good, trying to get conversations going and move the game along.

Fanto · Nov 7, 2019

Also

Vote: Exodus

I want more from you, exodus. Anyone sticking out to you so far? I'm assuming you're making a reference to SU when you said that Chugg is tempting, or is there actually something about his play so far that makes you want to vote there?

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

Fantomas said:
Can you quote me an example of what you mean when you say Reki feels "subdued"? They've only made 5 posts so far, and while the first few were pretty normal early game talk, I thought the latest were pretty good, trying to get conversations going and move the game along.

There's just nothing in those post that feels very thoughtful, I guess. I like the idea of getting discussion, but there's not much there in terms of Reki's own thoughts.

Reki said:
Yeah, GIFs can only carry you so far... let's try something different then. From the roster this time, which players do you normally have an easy/hard time reading?

In my case I believe to have an idea of how exodus normally plays as town from past games, so I'm looking forward to him posting more.

On the other hand - and I mean no disrespect by this! - Funky Dude Sparks is normally hard to place. Jumpy playstyles are always an enigma for me.

Reki said:
This debate appears every time. You're right, meta by itself is at best spotty evidence, but having something to lean on when you're completely in the dark is nice.

It gets more interesting when the game advances and you have votes and reads to contrast, though.

You're right, I forgot that! Just don't tell Sparks.

Like there's some thoughts here about Exodus and Sparks, but they aren't really saying anything. I want more out of Reki than this.

Funky Dude Sparks · Nov 7, 2019

exodus

any words from you before I prod vote for you?

Fanto · Nov 7, 2019

TheChuggernaut said:
Like there's some thoughts here about Exodus and Sparks, but they aren't really saying anything. I want more out of Reki than this.

Yeah, definitely agreed, though I will say that I expect Reki to put out a reads list closer to EoD, they were always pretty good with that in LB3 as Town if I remember right.

I also remember Monkey scrutinizing the shit out of one of their read lists and eventually convincing me to turn my Town read on them around, but I was right and she was wrong lol. :P

Funky Dude Sparks said:
Unvote: TheChuggernaut

Funky Dude Sparks said:
exodus

any words from you before I prod vote for you?

Before anyone else mentions it, yes I'm aware that Sparks is just openly sheeping me right now lol.

Fanto · Nov 7, 2019

Also, Chugg, did you miss this question I asked you earlier? Still curious.

Fantomas said:
Do you have any thoughts on Turmoil so far here in this game?

Stantastic · Nov 7, 2019

yall mind if i actually try today? only a little i promise

turmoil7 said:
I think I have met no player here when they were scum

Maybe there is no scum in this game?

sounds like something scum would want us to think.

TheChuggernaut said:
I'm claiming honor mechanic tied to my vote record and I may or may not have been forced to make this post.

god i had so many theorys on that shit and im so dissapointed it turned out to just be nothing.

Verelios said:
I would investigate Stan because I need to know if I can count on my nightime pal or if we should put on DST and throw him off the island. Otherwise, investigate Chuggs to make sure I'm not playing buddy cops while he's playing Game of Thrones.

yall really are getting in on this shit early aint ya?

Stantastic · Nov 7, 2019

Anyway of everyone id definitely investigate Sparks, i scum read him in every single game i play with him and i think iv been wrong each time.
cannot read that guy.
(hell im doing it right now with that vote on Chuggs)

As for the rest of the chuggs train i have a hard time believing that scum would be that forward on day 1, more like peeps just hoping for a reaction to get past the typical dead air.

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

Fantomas said:
Also, Chugg, did you miss this question I asked you earlier? Still curious.

Oh, I forgot you asked me this. He's kind of just a big null to me at the moment.

Stantastic · Nov 7, 2019

Fanto handily sliding into town lead position is worthy of note.

Game/town could certainly use some direction at this point, but will stay wary, wolves on billboards and all that.

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

Stantastic said:
Fanto handily sliding into town lead position is worthy of note.

Game/town could certainly use some direction at this point, but will stay wary, wolves on billboards and all that.

it's something I'm keeping an eye on, but I knew it was coming as soon as I saw the roster for this game lol

Stantastic · Nov 7, 2019

Oh right i forgot the meta question, tho its somewhat irrelevant, i barely meta even when i want to, my memory of past games is pretty awful,
and even then i never put much stock in meta arguments as i find there are so many potential outside factors that may influence someones play from one game to the next that making broad call based on "they were differant in that other game" just seems way to lame.

Stantastic · Nov 7, 2019

TheChuggernaut said:
it's something I'm keeping an eye on, but I knew it was coming as soon as I saw the roster for this game lol

Oh yeah, its not surprising in the least so im not super suspicious of it, figure fanto would do this in any alignment. Hell hed probably find a way to do it from the spec chat.
Im just saying probs not a good idea to get comfortable with it.

Stantastic · Nov 7, 2019

i like how i said i never use meta immediately before making a non-read based on meta.

Fanto · Nov 7, 2019

Stantastic said:
yall mind if i actually try today? only a little i promise

TheChuggernaut said:
Oh, I forgot you asked me this. He's kind of just a big null to me at the moment.

No Meta leans or anything? I think a Turmoil that is actively putting himself out there and has a somewhat jokey tone is more likely to be Town than Scum based on my previous experience.

Stantastic said:
Fanto handily sliding into town lead position is worthy of note.

TheChuggernaut said:
it's something I'm keeping an eye on, but I knew it was coming as soon as I saw the roster for this game lol

Stantastic said:
Oh yeah, its not surprising in the least so im not super suspicious of it, figure fanto would do this in any alignment. Hell hed probably find a way to do it from the spec chat.
Im just saying probs not a good idea to get comfortable with it.

Trust me, the Town Leader hat weighs heavily on my head, it's not something I enjoy wearing ever since Maple Street (and I guess Image Mafia too, wasn't the best Town Leader there either). Anyways, I welcome any and all suspicion on me, challenge my opinions, converse with me, that is how we will solve the game.

Stantastic said:
i like how i said i never use meta immediately before making a non-read based on meta.

Stantastic · Nov 7, 2019

Fantomas said:

do you just have this gif on a hotkey or something?
because i posted that like seconds ago

Ketkat · Nov 7, 2019

Fantomas said:
I'll defend Chugg. There are very few scenarios I can think of where I would be willing to entertain voting for Chugg on D1. He's always among the most active posters, gives reads, places votes, all the things I would hope everyone does on D1. Now, are any of those things necessarily alignment indicative on D1? No, but I don't like taking those kinds of players out early because if they are Town then they will likely be an asset later in the game when inactivity and a lack of reads/votes can cause a player to be harder to get a read on regardless of their alignment.

I'm not a fan of this kind of thinking as it seems like you're ignoring possible scum based entirely on meta. I've definitely seen games where some of the most active players are taken out and the game stalls, but this line of thinking is really the other end of voting for low activity, which I'm also not a fan of.

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

Fantomas said:
No Meta leans or anything? I think a Turmoil that is actively putting himself out there and has a somewhat jokey tone is more likely to be Town than Scum based on my previous experience.

I would have to go back and look at that game where he was scum, but I remember him being jokey there too

Verelios · Nov 7, 2019

Fantomas said:
What does "put on DST" mean? Your references are beyond me sometimes lol.

Put on Daylight savings time. Basically turning night into day earlier by clipping our owly friend.

Funky Dude Sparks · Nov 7, 2019

I need to sub out

medical problems

Stuart444

Fanto · Nov 7, 2019

Stantastic said:
do you just have this gif on a hotkey or something?
because i posted that like seconds ago

👀

Ketkat said:
I'm not a fan of this kind of thinking as it seems like you're ignoring possible scum based entirely on meta. I've definitely seen games where some of the most active players are taken out and the game stalls, but this line of thinking is really the other end of voting for low activity, which I'm also not a fan of.

I suppose my theory is that if we take out the high post count players early in the game, then who is going to be around to talk in the mid/late game when it's more important? Scum will likely shoot them eventually if they are Town, best not to make their lives easier early on. As long as no one is writing people off for the whole game based solely on activity, I think it's something worthy of considering early on (and in a game this size, that basically just means D1), but that's just my take on it.

My main point in that post was at the end, where I said that a lack of reads/votes being given from a player over the course of the whole game can make things more difficult in the mid/late game. I've seen players make it to LyLo who skipped voting on more than one phase, that's the kind of thing I'm talking about.

TheChuggernaut · Nov 7, 2019

Funky Dude Sparks said:
I need to sub out

medical problems

Stuart444

Hope everything is alright, dude

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