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More than half of House Dems now support impeachment inquiry in wake of Mueller testimony

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Sho_Nuff82

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Net increase of 24 reps in the last 9 days. In comparison, 6 Republican congressmen have retired over the last two weeks, with Will Hurd from House Intelligence being the most shocking. Makes you wonder if there is a magical tipping point where Nancy will announce public support.



More than half of all House Democrats now want to pursue impeachment proceedings, a threshold that may cause Speaker Nancy Pelosi to reconsider her steadfast opposition https://t.co/wgg6MM47I6

Somewhat related, House Judiciary is suggesting the inquiry has already begun without a formal announcement:



In the past, a resolution directing the Judiciary Committee to consider impeachment was needed to grant the committee additional subpoena authority and financial resources. That was the official start of an impeachment inquiry
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But times have changed. In 2015, Republican leaders gave committee chairs broad subpoena powers — powers that Chairman Nadler retains today.
No additional step is required. No magic words need to be uttered on the House floor. No vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry is necessary.
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So almost half of DEMOCRATS are not for it... why would she feel comfortable doing impeachment with such low support tbh? That's a pretty weak consensus among democrats
 
Sulik2

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Nancy is never going to do it. Knowing it will fail in the senate seems to mean she has no intention of every doing it. I used to think she was right, but I think not impeaching is just disenfranchising the Democrats base now. They need to impeach.
 
dabig2

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was posted yesterday actually:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/majority-of-house-democrats-now-support-impeachment-inquiry.132346/

And yes, an inquiry has already been initiated by the House judiciary and we are already in the midst of impeachment proceedings. Rule 6(e) exception has officially been invoked.


Don't be confused by the 105 Democrats now "calling for" an #ImpeachmentInquiryNow. That inquiry has BEGUN as of Friday July 26. The eagle has taken flight. No question about it. Read my @USATODAY op-ed

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...iry-is-happening-right-now-column/1852090001/
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Articles of impeachment have been formally referred to the Judiciary Committee for its consideration, House counsel Douglas Letter said in the Friday filing to U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. That consideration, the committee has now informed the court, is underway, as is consideration of whether to recommend its own articles of impeachment.

Savvy House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, to spare the Democrats in red and purple congressional districts from facing electoral revolt, gave Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler the go-ahead without first holding a floor vote on whether to conduct hearings into the president's impeachment. And you can be sure Trump's lawyers will argue in court that the absence of that politically costly floor vote means the impeachment inquiry does not have the legal superpowers such an inquiry normally acquires — and that are needed to prevail on judicial unsealing of secret grand jury materials and ordering fact witnesses like former White House counsel Don McGahn to testify under oath to what they know Trump did to win office and to cover up what he did to stay there.
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Impeachment floor vote isn't needed
That argument could succeed but shouldn't, and probably won't. There's no way courts could avoid the reality or the appearance of being blatantly partisan if they were to muck around in the details of how the speaker of the House chooses to orchestrate the initiation of an impeachment inquiry. And Pelosi's critics who call her a coward for being subtle about how she is launching this particular inquiry seem to be more interested in the political optics than in the reality of holding this president accountable for his grave offenses against the United States.

Consider how strange it would be for a court to determine that the Judiciary Committee did not possess whatever special investigatory powers accompany a full-on impeachment proceeding. The law then would absurdly require the House to exercise its "sole power of impeachment" in the dark, without access to the information it needs to make the most serious and fateful decisions. Silly as the legal system sometimes seems, it's just not that stupid.
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After some mayhem after the Mueller hearing, Nancy did the best thing she could do and got the fuck out of Nadler and the judiciary's way.
 
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