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Slash

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I don't hate this, but it's interesting to see two films so close to each other use the same 4:3 aspect ratio on HBO Max. Maybe they want to make it a trend?
 

Edward

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When it comes to HBO MAX will you be able to buy/rent digitally elsewhere? I would prefer to never watch another movie in that format at home.
 

Bear

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Hopefully not exclusively 4:3. It kinda works for Snyder Cut but can't say I love the idea of this becoming a trend.
 

Duncan

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these movies better come out on VHS or DVD in those very formats if we're going all the way with it

or LASER DISC.
 

Stopdoor

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I'm not really familiar with movie aspect ratios but it seems like insanity going back to 4:3 coming from a gaming perspective, but maybe that's illogical
 

Lump

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Hipster ass aspect ratio

Apple laughing in iPad though
 

Griffy

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Most movies with IMAX presentations do 16x9 for home release for the IMAX sequences. Even Nolan, the biggest stickler of the bunch, does 16x9 for his IMAX stuff. Because that only makes sense. Some theatrical IMAX movies aren't actually even a full, proper IMAX aspect ratio but an "enhanced" ratio, going from 2.35:1 or similar to 16x9. See Skyfall as an example.

I would guess that is the case with this movie, not that it will be 4:3 like the Snyder cut.
 
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molnizzle

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Most movies with IMAX presentations do 16x9 for home release for the IMAX sequences. Even Nolan, the biggest stickler of the bunch, does 16x9 for his IMAX stuff. Because that only makes sense.
I dunno. I really wish there was a way to watch the full IMAX presentations of Interstellar and Dunkirk at home.
 
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He said that they have it ready to be shown on IMAX but it seems he doesn't know if HBO Max will be shown in that format, so most likely not

But he specifically said "Yes" to a question which said "on HBO Max", so it's weird if he was thinking that.
 

ignata

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I've got a newer Pro and it's still great, just a small sliver on the left and right watching 4:3 content. I watched ch. 3 of the Snyder cut on it yesterday.

Wow I honestly thought new iPads were still 4:3. I watch a lot of old stuff so I'm cool with it but yeah didn't realize they were a little less 4:3 than before.
 

molnizzle

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Not really sure what there is to misunderstand about that question lol. If he made a mistake in the original answer, I'll ask the mods to lock this thread
There are multiple IMAX ratios these days. Most films use the "LieMax" 1.9:1 which is only a tiny bit taller than 16:9. Infinity War and Endgame both used that aspect ratio, though all the home releases are cropped down to 2.4:1 for some inexplicable reason.

Very few modern films shoot on the full IMAX 70mm. They probably shot MK on digital 1.9:1, if anything.

Wow I honestly thought new iPads were still 4:3. I watch a lot of old stuff so I'm cool with it but yeah didn't realize they were a little less 4:3 than before.
Yeah, they got a little taller when they removed the bezels. Still very close to 4:3 but a bit more screen real estate now.
 

Griffy

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I dunno. I really wish there was a way to watch the full IMAX presentations of Interstellar and Dunkirk at home.
The thing is those releases are already made in multiple formats for different types of theaters and presentations. Nolan is intentionally framing safely for the different aspect ratios. So the full, proper IMAX film presentation that is only available in like 5 theaters in the world (with giant screens and IMAX film projectors) gets the full, boxy IMAX aspect ratio for IMAX scenes. The AMC IMAX-branded screens that aren't actually IMAX film theaters get an expanded 16x9 or 1.85:1 aspect ratio, and regular screens get a 2.35:1 aspect ratio.

For home release, it makes the most sense to use the 16x9 versions, as the full IMAX format really only has a meaningful effect when you are seeing it on a giant, 6-story tall screen that fills your entire field of view. It doesn't have the same effect on a widescreen TV in your living room.
 

Venatio

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I can't believe 4:3 is making a comeback.

Who knew that aspect ratios would turn into fashion?!? As a kid that suffered though a lot of pan and scan abominations from the 80s/90s, it's just kind of baffling.
 

Hero_of_the_Day

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Why are people okay with black bars above and below the picture, but not the the sides instead? I'm kinda just indifferent to it. But, didn't bug me at all in Justice League.
 

KillingJoke

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I dig it. Would father have 4:3 then constant shifting from imax to lettbox. I highly doubt this is true though.
 

Disco

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I doubt it. Dude seems mistaken. It would be cool to get this once in a while but only if the director intended for it, like in Zack's case.

I like the way Nolan does his Imax presentations on home video. Full screen, shit looks stunning in 4k.
 

hiredhand

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This doesn't make any sense. I don't believe for one second that MK was shot with that aspect ratio in mind. Why wouldn't the trailers use that ratio?
 

Version 3.0

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I mean, whatever. I'll watch in whatever ratio it's available. But directors, please note: anything narrower than 16:9, a whole lot of your viewers are going to watch it stretched. I don't know why so many people who don't mind letterboxing are so annoyed by sidebars, but they are.
 

molnizzle

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The thing is those releases are already made in multiple formats for different types of theaters and presentations. Nolan is intentionally framing safely for the different aspect ratios. So the full, proper IMAX film presentation that is only available in like 5 theaters in the world (with giant screens and IMAX film projectors) gets the full, boxy IMAX aspect ratio for IMAX scenes. The AMC IMAX-branded screens that aren't actually IMAX film theaters get an expanded 16x9 or 1.85:1 aspect ratio, and regular screens get a 2.35:1 aspect ratio.

For home release, it makes the most sense to use the 16x9 versions, as the full IMAX format really only has a meaningful effect when you are seeing it on a giant, 6-story tall screen that fills your entire field of view. It doesn't have the same effect on a widescreen TV in your living room.
I dunno, I sit about 7' away from a 77" OLED and the Snyder cut (as well as standard 16:9 stuff) feels pretty damn vertical. Granted it's not the same as the 70mm IMAX presentation but it's still pretty awesome.

And while it's true Nolan safely keeps everything important within the 16:9 frame, his IMAX cinematography is still breathtaking. Especially in Dunkirk. Though I do love the Interstellar sequences as well.
 

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I love 4:3 if it's actually shot for that. The framing in The Snyder Cut looks incredible and First Cow also did a lot with the compositions that would only be possible in 4:3. I hope we get more 4:3 films in the future since it opens up a lot of visual opportunities. They do need to shoot the film with the aspect ratio in mind though. I don't care for it if they edit it to be 4:3 just for the sake of it being 4:3.
 

SteveWinwood

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i really dont care what aspect ratio anything is in as long as its what the creator intended and im not missing out on anything (you know unless the first point)

quibis stupid half measure shit just made sure id never get near it

pan and scan is just insulting

but if people wanna make 4:3 films go for it. experiment. do whatever you want
 

NookSports

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HBO Max quickly hiring some pan and scan technicians.

I will third that 4:3 video on an iPad is ace. I thought it was better than widescreen
 
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isn't that pretty much early 00s US dvd releases? i remember seeing full screen and widescreen versions of the same movie and sometimes even on the same disc as a flipper

Those movies were cropped/zoomed in to fill the screen. I remember having to show family and friends of side by side comparisons of how much more of the scene they could see if they switched to widescreen.
 
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