MS: A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture

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A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire

We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...

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We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today's announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the globe. AMD continues to be an industry leader in CPU and GPU innovation, bringing next-generation capabilities to the PC, console and cloud.

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[wwm0nkey]

Didn't we know PS5 wasn't running RDNA2?

 

[Kami]

That's a spicy tweet.

 

[CarbonCrush]

Ouch to PS5. This explains why Sony was so secretive.

So no VRS and mesh shaders in PS5 it looks like?

 

[christocolus]

wow. that's an interesting tweet.

 

[Brrandon]

so the rumors were true after all

 

[strudelkuchen]

Didn't we know PS5 wasn't running RDNA2?

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emphasize is on "full"

 

[Kami]

Didn't we know PS5 wasn't running RDNA2?

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I thought it was?

 

[R dott B]

Whale dam

 

[Cliff Steele]

MS takes no hostages this upcoming gen.

 

[Deleted member 20297]

Didn't we know PS5 wasn't running RDNA2?

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Oh my sweet summer child...

 

[Fabtacular]

Didn't we know PS5 wasn't running RDNA2?

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I feel like suggesting that was borderline bannable at one point.

(And I think that point may have been "any time prior to this morning.")

 

[Kerberosorthos]

Oh wow ps5 not full RDNA 2 confirmed. Thought That the rumor would stay what it was

 

[Senor Spielbergo]

I thought it was?

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Lots of insiders claimed it was. I guess not lol

 

[PianoBlack]

To me it reads like "Sampler Feedback is part of RDNA2, only Xbox has Sample Feedback, therefore only Xbox has 'full' RDNA2."

Also good to see this: "improved visual quality via techniques such as ML powered super resolution."

 

[CrazyNomad]

oh lol.. ERA will explode now, i feel sorry for the mods haha

 

[Quellyford]

Oh snap "only next gen console with full RDNA 2"

 

[Brohan]

I skimmed the article but I don't see anything about the PS5?

 

[LilScooby77]

They dont know what Sony was doing though. How would they know?

 

[digitalrelic]

eeeeeeeeh

 

[UraMallas]

I feel like suggesting that was borderline bannable at one point.

(And I think that point may have been "any time prior to this morning.")

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Along with the Github leak validity, yes.

 

[CanisMajoris]

I mean SFS is not on PS5 because it has in-house tech for I/O, so technically they are right.

 

[Anddo]

This thread is off to a great start.. wow guys.

 

[PianoBlack]

I feel like suggesting that was borderline bannable at one point.

(And I think that point may have been "any time prior to this morning.")

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I mean, people were begging for even mentioning the GitHub leak to be bannable even though it confirmed the PS5 CU count, memory amount, memory bandwidth, BC profiles... Things got crazy last winter lol.

 

[digitalrelic]

I skimmed the article but I don't see anything about the PS5?

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"Xbox Series X|S will be the only next gen consoles with full RDNA 2 integration"

 

[Vark]

I mean... the PS5 doesn't use the Direct X RayTracing so...

 

[BabyDontHurtMe]

That's cool to hear! Interested to see what devs can pull off with it.

 

[Kyra]

This is a bold claim MS.

 

[chandoog]

Didn't we know PS5 wasn't running RDNA2?

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Lots of insiders claimed it was. I guess not lol

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It is, it's labeled as RDNA 2 in the official teardown video:

 

[Sekiro]

Yeah i call BS.

 

[gofreak]

Lots of insiders claimed it was. I guess not lol

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Hmm... IIRC. some insiders, when asked on specific features, said PS5 had equivalents, but hinted that they might be different implementations. And hinted that people were getting caught up in fairly meaningless delineations about what was or wasn't 'RDNA2'.

For example, re. VRS, looking at the patent literature, it seems Sony may have gone about it in a pretty different way.

In the end, per AMD the PS5 chip is 'RDNA2', but Sony has done a couple of things their own way.

 

[Kami]

Lots of insiders claimed it was. I guess not lol

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It's 100% RDNA2 based, Cerny said so. It's probably just missing a feature or two.

 

[Rndom Grenadez]

I feel like suggesting that was borderline bannable at one point.

(And I think that point may have been "any time prior to this morning.")

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I think the emphasis in the tweet is not "full".

 

[Nephtes]

Uhhh... so huh.
What exactly are they suggesting the PS5 has missing from full RDNA 2 specification? Is it just VRS?

 

[doyneamite]

I skimmed the article but I don't see anything about the PS5?

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"Xbox Series X|S are the only next-generation consoles with full hardware support for all the RDNA 2 capabilities AMD showcased today."

 

[wwm0nkey]

It is, it's labeled as RDNA 2 in the official teardown video:

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Sorry I meant "full" RDNA2

 

[Diarrhea Day-Lewis]

I would need a list of all the Rdna2 features each have to really determine the validity or impact of that statement. Do we have a running list?

 

[RedHeat]

Wow.... Dunno if I should hide this thread or watch the fireworks

 

[Prine]

Why do these spicy threads get created just as im about to go gym?

 

[Bigfellahull]

Didn't we know PS5 wasn't running RDNA2?

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It was rumoured but heavily contested by a number of people.

 

[MaulerX]

Boom. Gif

 

[Gemüsepizza]

I mean SFS is not on PS5 because it has in-house tech for I/O, so technically they are right.

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Probably something like this. Otherwise, why not highlight the features missing on PS5?

 

[chandoog]

By "Full" features, I think they mean things like VRS and DirectML or some variant of DLSS.

Neither of which Sony have officially commented on.

 

[Deleted member 57361]

PS5 is RDNA2 based, but Sony has their own custom implementations. It's not 1:1 to RDNA2 that AMD has on PC. MS using their smart wording again to attract some console warriors.

 

[WordsintheWater]

Weren't insiders saying they have their own techniques for RDNA2 like features? I'm confused why this is shocking or a big deal in any way.

 

[Gestault]

This Tweet is spicy enough to make me wonder if it's a "technically true but unimportant" distinction, or has some substance behind it. I'd lean toward the former.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Pretty sure the difference is that PS5 uses custom features that can achieve similar results.

 

[CanisMajoris]

PS5 is RDNA2 based, but Sony has their own custom implementations. It's not 1:1 to RDNA2 that AMD has on PC. MS using their smart wording again to attract some console warriors.

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Yup.

 

[digitalrelic]

"Through close collaboration and partnership between Xbox and AMD, not only have we delivered on this promise, we have gone even further introducing additional next-generation innovation such as hardware accelerated Machine Learning capabilities for better NPC intelligence, more lifelike animation, and improved visual quality via techniques such as ML powered super resolution."

Possibly referencing AMD's DLSS alternative?

 

[PapaShango]

This is cool.... someone explain what this means or what it could mean?