Here's an article I found reporting that gaming convention PAX West has started controversy by suddenly canceling Colin Moriarty's panel and is refusing to refund attendees who purchased tickets to see Colin:
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PAX responds to Colin Moriarty controversy but will "not issue refunds" (PAX West panel cancelled)
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Should offer refunds to the people, what the fuck is that shit. Pax canceled, so they should pay attendees back
saw this as it happened. kind of scummy tbh.
Colin seems to be refunding some people out of his own pocket tho which is very nice of him for those kinda stuck with tickets they no longer really want.
Colin seems to be refunding some people out of his own pocket tho which is very nice of him for those kinda stuck with tickets they no longer really want.
Because it is kind of a shitty thing to do if you are the one cancelling the panel without giving a reason. The lineup thing is more to cover for unexpected absences from guests, like they are sick.
Are there tickets for specific panels, or do people buy passes to attend the show as a whole for a day?
If the ticket is for a specific panel, they should probably refund, regardless of my feelings about this dude and his fans.
If it's the latter, I can understand why PAX wouldn't refund anyone. The ticket is for PAX, not one panel. If my favourite band pulls out of a music festival, I don't get my whole ticket refunded.
If the ticket is for a specific panel, they should probably refund, regardless of my feelings about this dude and his fans.
If it's the latter, I can understand why PAX wouldn't refund anyone. The ticket is for PAX, not one panel. If my favourite band pulls out of a music festival, I don't get my whole ticket refunded.
Same question here.
If the ticket was only for that panel, then cancelling it and not refunding is scummy af.
Now if it's the ticket for the whole event... Yeah, I can see them being within their right to refuse a refund.
I guess you never went to Pax. You don't buy tickets for individual panels. You buy a ticket for the entire convention.
Canceling a panel isn't a good enough reason for a refund.
I agree they should explain their reasoning.
I suspect given historical issues PAX have had with inclusivity (the dickwolves saga etc), it's that they don't want someone like Colin who would make many people feel uncomfortable hosting a panel. Their big mistake was letting him on the schedule in the first place, but I'm glad they caught it.
Your right, i havent been. Did they pay to go see him specifically or just for the event itself?
He's a racist piece of shit. Has stated on record that racism cant exist in America because asians have good test scores
That's because when he sticks to video games he's infinitely more interesting.
Bad move. If the organisers cancel a panel, they should allow the provision for refunds for tickets from people who bought tickets to the event for the purpose of that panel. If the panelist cancelled and it is out of the control of the organisers than a refund is not to be expected. If you want to exercise moral authority to cancel a panel because you do not want that sort of people at the event, then you should also have the courage to back that up by refunding fans who specifically want to support that panel to show that they are not wanted either. That would be a meaningful message. Taking people's money and going "too bad" is scummy, period.
For anyone saying "they're allowed to in the rules they set up" sure, they are, and people are allowed to express that the rules are bad and make them look bad.
For anyone saying "they're allowed to in the rules they set up" sure, they are, and people are allowed to express that the rules are bad and make them look bad.
https://twitter.com/notaxation/status/1157843530439512064
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Obviously I'm joking, but your post wasn't helpful at all. I was looking for specific examples fam
See he makes a logical point but on the flip side we have plenty of room and the so called finite resources are only stretched so thin because of the greed of a few so while logical it is flawed we can make room for several thousand and still be just fine. And if we wanna play world police we need to help when it's inconvenient as well as convenient.
There are many hooks for pax. There are a ton of game demos, even for board games, multiple panels, performances and game shows and a ton of opportunities to play tournaments in ways that aren't feasible in your local neighborhood.
I can easily imagine Colin being the main draw for a very small amount of people but Pax has always been about the whole experience (unless you are a pro gamer because you will be forced to miss a lot while climbing the ranks in such a tight schedule)
good that his panel was canceled, can't say i really care about those who wanted to see him getting a refund or not.
Ironically..the same "argument" was used by the el paso shooter in his manifesto. "We're too crowded, we have to thin out the herds"
He's not making a logical point. He's making an emotional one framed in the language of a logical one. We're not being overwhelmed, and some basic research would show this, so the entire impetus of his argument is invalid. He glosses over that because he's not trying to make a logical point, but one driven from fear and xenophobia.
Distribution of wealth would never be considered by a libertarian like him.
While I agree with this - he's a kindergarten libertarian and a friend to Dave Rubin - he got approved, so I'm wondering what happened for them to about face.
Do you also want to defend any of his hundreds of sexist and racist tweets too?
And if it is a small amount of people, it would be appropriate to refund them. It would also indicate that if their only interest in the event is to see a person who isn't welcome to PAX, then they aren't wanted at PAX either. It would also make it consistent such that in the event where PAX organisers cancel an event (which does not involve a shitlord) that could be a major draw for some people, they know that there's a provision to refund their tickets.
Glad they cancelled. And if you paid money to see a piece of shit like that and can't get a refund then I can't really say that I feel sorry for you.
He is, it's just a matter of time before this thread gets locked
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