There are a lot of examples in the # on twitter from the data mining to prove this point.
The reason this is trending is this translated quote from an interview with Famitsu that contradicts the findings of the datamining:
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Pokémon SwSh datamining confirms models are reused, #GameFreakLied is now trending
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There are a lot of examples in the # on twitter from the data mining to prove this point.
The reason this is trending is this translated quote from an interview with Famitsu that contradicts the findings of the datamining:
they haven't been upfront about a bunch of things + some odd excuses that don't jive with... reality
Because that would be too kind.
We have to make it known how bad they messed up and ruined our game I guess.
Gamefreak has legitimately done alot of things wrong for a long time. The amount of vitriol, hate, and threats makes it hard to talk about any of it when they're already getting shit on instead of the constructive criticism they need though. It's impossible to talk about pokemon right now because the absolutely rabid fanbase fucking everything up for people who actually want to see the series move forward who have to sit silently and hope the mob moves on at some point. Funny how the people making shitfits are the ones hurting it the most.
Posted this in the other thread but its relevant here too.
I'm a bit bewildered at how the models issue became such a sticking point for so many people. Graphical fidelity, removal of features, general game design choices and trends, these are all concrete things you can take issue with.
The pokemon models don't inherently make the game worse. The dex culling isnt that bad in theory but it seems the game doesnt really make up for that aspect in other areas. Criticize the game itself for not improving quality in other ways. Getting mad about models is missing the point i think.
Its especially bad when its a bunch of people talking about programming and game dev when 99.9% of them don't have a clue about those fields and have never had to work in a real professional environment where time/money/resources are limited.
I'm a bit bewildered at how the models issue became such a sticking point for so many people. Graphical fidelity, removal of features, general game design choices and trends, these are all concrete things you can take issue with.
The pokemon models don't inherently make the game worse. The dex culling isnt that bad in theory but it seems the game doesnt really make up for that aspect in other areas. Criticize the game itself for not improving quality in other ways. Getting mad about models is missing the point i think.
Its especially bad when its a bunch of people talking about programming and game dev when 99.9% of them don't have a clue about those fields and have never had to work in a real professional environment where time/money/resources are limited.
Exactly
Re-using some older assets as the base is the norm for every yearly Franchise - would be naive to think otherwise, regardless what they told you.
I had some understanding for the uproar early on but the last couple weeks have shown that some of the audience needs more hobbies outside of gaming.
I had some understanding for the uproar early on but the last couple weeks have shown that some of the audience needs more hobbies outside of gaming.
The point is, one is not expecting a technical marvel from GF but at least a game with no glitches or notable pop ups and a lively world. Instead, the world map looks barren and flat with many technical uncertainties. Some choices in 2019 are baffling like weather conditions which are locked to specific areas. Animations look mediocre.
Even then one might justify these issues if the game was full of contents and offered something unique but it seems in terms of contents the game is very light on top of cutting Pokémon and moves.
Even then one might justify these issues if the game was full of contents and offered something unique but it seems in terms of contents the game is very light on top of cutting Pokémon and moves.
If this is something that was so easily confirmed to be false, then why would Gamefreak lie about it in the first place?
Everything leading up to this game has been a hot fucking mess. It sucks, because you'd think Pokemon's big debut on Switch would be an electric event. I mean, it kinda still is, but not in a good way.
Everything leading up to this game has been a hot fucking mess. It sucks, because you'd think Pokemon's big debut on Switch would be an electric event. I mean, it kinda still is, but not in a good way.
Pokemon fans just can't catch a break with this game huh.
Just had to look this up myself. He's gonna be on a WWE talk show thing.
I think partly this game is also a catalyst and a pressure release for a lot of resentment about the serious that has been brewing for a long time.
probably, he just looks like one of them pokemon defenders. the scum
Oh no they used some of the models.
did they use the same textures too? Did they rework any of that?
We have 4ch as a source and only a handful of models in that page. I'll hold the outrage for now because this is not shit worth getting upset over.
did they use the same textures too? Did they rework any of that?
We have 4ch as a source and only a handful of models in that page. I'll hold the outrage for now because this is not shit worth getting upset over.
I would say so, yes. And we shouldn't even feel bad about either, because it is completely warranted by the looks of it.
There's nothing inherently wrong about reusing models or animations or whatever. The context around this makes it worse though.
So uh, all those people who made youtube videos and tweets about how the models are infact different.
They uh... are they just give be like " whoops " or what
So uh, all those people who made youtube videos and tweets about how the models are infact different.
They uh... are they just give be like " whoops " or what
They've reused and recycled assets for years though. Nothing new. Hell, Smash Ultimate is an enhanced port at it's core, albeit, with a shit ton of new assets, models, visual upgrades, polish and an insane amount of content and passion poured into it.
Anyway, as someone who is finally jumping back into Pokemon after a 20 year hiatus, it's a bit disconcerting reading all of this bad news and negativity before the launch of these games. I'm sure I'll still enjoy them, but knowing so much was removed and apparently some corners were cut, just rubs me the wrong way.
I guess from Gamefreak's perspective, they wanna trim the fat, go back a bit and reassess and reboot what makes these games fun and enjoyable. Think of it as "going back to basics". I can respect that. But, in the eyes of fans, I can understand how they see this as an unnecessary regression and poor decision, especially when quality of life is compromised.
Anyway, as someone who is finally jumping back into Pokemon after a 20 year hiatus, it's a bit disconcerting reading all of this bad news and negativity before the launch of these games. I'm sure I'll still enjoy them, but knowing so much was removed and apparently some corners were cut, just rubs me the wrong way.
I guess from Gamefreak's perspective, they wanna trim the fat, go back a bit and reassess and reboot what makes these games fun and enjoyable. Think of it as "going back to basics". I can respect that. But, in the eyes of fans, I can understand how they see this as an unnecessary regression and poor decision, especially when quality of life is compromised.
Regardless of how one feels about the game, this entire saga has been one big ass PR disaster. I doubt Nintendo and TPC are happy.
Because we gotta #VoteWithYourWallet.
So if anyone buys or defends Pokémon, the terrorists at Game Freak win!
Do you want a better game next time, Javi!?
Join the rebellion!!!
The more datamine we get the more I believe the "leak" that said the only reason we don't get all the Pokémon is because the game was mad rushed as GF had problems importing the models from 3DS.
Probably because many elements of the models from the shadow/light maps, textures, rendering techniques etc. actually had to be remade from scratch and they felt that those details were too esoteric to the casual layman to detail. A model is more than just the tris and wireframes. I don't know why people are shocked at the revelation. Most people assumed the raw models themselves were the same since day one.
That's not backlash. That's scrutiny from obsessive people to a level that's honestly not healthy.
Just don't buy the game if it's not good enough. Why all the drama with twitter campaigns?
I haven't even played any Pokemon since the Silver/Gold days, but I love having delicious drama to read while I'm bored at work. Was the same for FO76.
I do hope all of this leads to some major shakeup in the franchise. They should be innovating, not getting by with the bare minimum.
I do hope all of this leads to some major shakeup in the franchise. They should be innovating, not getting by with the bare minimum.
Game Freak, while you lay there, hopefully as uncomfortable as you possibly can be, I want you to listen to me. want you to digest this because before I leave in 1 week with your Game, I have a lot of things I want to get off my chest.
I don't hate you, Game Freak. I don't even dislike you. I do like you. I like you a hell of a lot more than I like most developers.
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