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Russel Brand has jumped on the right-wing conspiracy train
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If he's serious, he's an idiot. If this is satire, it's extremely poorly thought-out satire that will probably do more harm than good. Either way, not a good look, Russell.
Merely a week after this Monbiot article too, what more can you say:
www.theguardian.com
It’s shocking to see so many leftwingers lured to the far right by conspiracy theories | George Monbiot
It’s not just anti-vaxxers. The themes of resisting power and regaining control of our lives have been cynically repurposed, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot
www.theguardian.com
It's been creeping up the last few years. Seems like one of those things where maintaining the anti-establishment brand has looped around in... quite unfortunate ways.
Oh hey he was that guy in those movies where he talked a lot.
Greenwald sucks.
Greenwald sucks.
i get the feeling that antivaccine shit fleeces people on the left and lots of people on the left won't acknowledge it
Not surprised after his candid talk with Shapiro.
Thanks for this.
Thanks for this.
He's generally anti-establishment. A few years ago that would have manifested as being very left-leaning; now it's circling back towards the opposite.
Brand has been trading in some wishy-washy sort of spiritualism / wellbeing for a while now, as well. So combine those two things and you have a recipe for someone who talks a lot about big ideas, but can only back them up with the same sort of crap that Gwyneth Paltrow peddles.
Sadly not that surprising. I really liked him back in the day and listened to his radio show a lot, but even then he was prone to embracing fucking stupid ideas and conspiracies.
He had David Icke on multiple times and loved all the crazy shit he had to say for fuck's sake.
I don't think he's an inherently bad person but he's definitely prone to embracing any random ideas that seem exciting to him and he loves crusading against the status quo. He should do better at realising the damage that these ideas can do and that the people spreading this shit are the establishment.
He had David Icke on multiple times and loved all the crazy shit he had to say for fuck's sake.
I don't think he's an inherently bad person but he's definitely prone to embracing any random ideas that seem exciting to him and he loves crusading against the status quo. He should do better at realising the damage that these ideas can do and that the people spreading this shit are the establishment.
if this is true and not some "elaborate satire" (havent watched the videos, not planning to, dont want my algorithm altered), i feel like this was always at the end of the path Brand was walking down, same as many of the other personalities that bros tend to like or follow (see: Joe Rogan's evolution to what he is today).
a generally well-liked, more than halfway-intelligent, alternative type of talking head that is usually more progressive and anti-establishment leaning will probably tend to lean towards continuing to rally against that "establishment", in ways that more and more often these days are significantly right or alt-right leaning, especially wrt: conspiracy stuff. whether thats because it was always in their heads to be more accepting of those ideas, or whether they were more easily influenced, or strictly because of money. it was bound to happen.
a generally well-liked, more than halfway-intelligent, alternative type of talking head that is usually more progressive and anti-establishment leaning will probably tend to lean towards continuing to rally against that "establishment", in ways that more and more often these days are significantly right or alt-right leaning, especially wrt: conspiracy stuff. whether thats because it was always in their heads to be more accepting of those ideas, or whether they were more easily influenced, or strictly because of money. it was bound to happen.
It feels as if he has been hovering in a really weird political space for a while and moving more right-wing without being blatant about it. His dealings with Jordan Peterson in particular made me think something was up.
Yep, I unsubscribed when I noticed his video titles were getting more and more unhinged.
For a while I found him to be an entertaining and articulate speaker with some thoughtful perspectives on life. But I won't put up with conservative brain rot while a new wave of anti-intellectual, anti-science, anti-democratic sentiment is sweeping the world.
This is not the time to be intellectually promiscuous with foolish ideas or nefarious politically driven misinformation.
For a while I found him to be an entertaining and articulate speaker with some thoughtful perspectives on life. But I won't put up with conservative brain rot while a new wave of anti-intellectual, anti-science, anti-democratic sentiment is sweeping the world.
This is not the time to be intellectually promiscuous with foolish ideas or nefarious politically driven misinformation.
Russell Brand has always been on the conspiracy train because he'll do whatever he thinks "the man" doesn't want him to do.
He's also a super dumb asshole posing as an intellectual. Will never forget or forgive a lot of his harmful and ridiculous escapades (remember when he told people not to vote and then made a big fuss about being upset he did that? That sucked).
He's also a super dumb asshole posing as an intellectual. Will never forget or forgive a lot of his harmful and ridiculous escapades (remember when he told people not to vote and then made a big fuss about being upset he did that? That sucked).
there are probably even posters on this board that feel this way lol
it's sad.
He voted Corbyn. He's literally a socialist / borderline communist social progressive.
That particular conspiracy theory has infected both sides of the political spectrum, unfortunately. Taking what people here say about him being on the left at face value. Though the right sometimes appropriates leftist rhetoric up until the actual conclusion.
More and more it seems clear to me that conspiracy theories don't thrive purely because people are dumb or ignorant; it's because the belief fulfills some unmet emotional need. It's like how some born again Christians will often say that they used to have a God-shaped hole in their heart, only in this case Russell Brand had a Hillary-Clinton-drinks-children's-blood-shaped hole in his.
Oh wow, maybe i'm misremembering it, but I thought he was pretty left leaning? Some of those screenshots are like straight out of an alt-righers Youtube feed.
Pretty much, Brand has been irrelevant for a while. But this is a nice little grift for him to pad his pockets and try to find some kind of relevance.
I watched some of those videos and don't really see what is so outrages about them? All of the claims were sourced and most of the time source was reputable (guardian, bbc, nyt, etc). Only sources that were so-so were RT and Greenwald.
This is nothing new. FDA conspiracies have been around a long time.
Same, I only really watched a few videos of him on interviews from many years ago, where he was talking some sense in the face of bullish right-wing talking bullshit spewed his way. Most from well over a decade ago at his height as a film star.
Noticed my feed suddenly filled with this pivot and I had to do a double-take. The new Dennis Miller I guess.
Just because he's left wing doesn't mean he isn't a moron. There are conspiracy theorists on both sides of the political spectrum.
But in russell's video there is no conspiracy talk? Just reports of FDA's conflict of interests. And source is The Conversation
Has for a long time. Before the Covid vaccine a lot of anti vaccine stuff would have been common among some left wing people for sure. I'm definitely left of center, but the right doesn't exclusively own crazy. They just have a shit ton more of it.
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