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The Mansion Mafia - Hold on tightly to your secrets
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each room has the exact same utility later in the game as it does at the beginning of the game.
all of the players move into the new room as a group and we all experience the repurcussions (good and/or bad). By attempting to use a good room at the beginning of the game, it allows more people to experience a potential good room. saving this until later only opens us up to "we can't use that now its too valuable" as a scum tactic.
Its exactly the same as saving overpowered items in a video game. We all say "I don't need this now, though it would make this whole event easier, because something worse it around the corner" and then you beat the last boss with OP item still in your inventory because you never could justify using it.
Using it now, assuming it is protection, gives more townspeople the benefit so on a pure cost/benefit analysis more people will benefit from its use earlier in the game than later. We will still get more information on how the rooms work and we potentially keep more players in the game longer than if we just saved it for a rainy day.
move: teal room
no, unless the game is specifically mentioned as "basterd" then we can safely assume no jester/fool is involved.
Its just for fun, did you not see my robot posting the no fun allowed picture earlier in the day? I'm trying to have fun with a mechanic. It is a lot of fun, and while I had no idea what I wanted to do with my moves yesterday ( and it showed by me trying to hit every single room, though I am not sure I have...) today I have a much clearer picture. Use a good room today, and not punish town tomorrow when we could try for BP or for a room that punishes scum.
move: yellow room
Most games have an inherent understanding that there is no Jester/Fool/Tanner. We've had them but they are incredibly rare cause they aren't fun
Are you seriously suggesting that for example no NK is as useful now as it is in the alte game when we may have a town core and a better idea of who the leader(s)/power roles are?
Is it deliberate?
Using your same analogy, this is like using your master ball on a bidoof. Using the teal room now helps nothing from my perspective. We won't get any info because no one would flip (presumably) and all we've done is prolong D1 guess work
Or like using your only Pheonix Down/Revive on the first fight of the game
and yet your constantly moving between a few rooms right now each post. While spending paragraphs trying to explain why the vote would be good.
Doesn't feel like a clearer picture to me.
This makes me laugh lol
We would get info from todays lynch? We don't move into rooms until tomorrow presumably so today's lynch will still provide info when they flip.
Fool(or Jester) is a bastard role, so I doubt it's in this game. He could be a neutral of some kind with a post restriction of having to include a move vote each time, but he did technically post once without a vote.
Even seeing who scum goes for will tell us something. Right now there's 0 benefit to a deathless day/night.
I was wondering what Bastard rules meant
I am still of the opinion that Zipped can't post without moving and that one post was an accident
I am still of the opinion that Zipped can't post without moving and that one post was an accident
Bastard is non-standard. The last bastard game I was in had a condition where everything the game runner said was a dirty lie. It's why I asked about it early on.
This zipped thing just feels like a big distraction right now. I'm worried it's going to snowball and we end up with a ton of votes in one place, where we can't learn as much.
I feel the same way for Dark room, even if it was my suggestion initially. This is a worrisome amount of consensus for D1.
I feel the same way for Dark room, even if it was my suggestion initially. This is a worrisome amount of consensus for D1.
Sorta. Bastard means that the game/moderator is lying to you. Non-standard could mean a bunch of different things, like strange, non-bastard roles, or non-standard mechanics (like this one has with room movement, for instance.)
also if I was doing that was super weird/confusing to people in a Mafia game and got called out for it, and I could stop doing it, I would
In general, Bastard means that information provided by the moderator may not be accurate. Sometimes implicitly. In the case of a jester/Fool, it's bastard because all of us have have an expectation that nobody wants to get lynched, and will behave accordingly. Including someone who DOES want to get lynched just fucks the game up.
There's a nearly iron clad rule of no jesters even in a bastard game, we had one once by special permission, he didn't win.
But what if you're scum and want to make it look like there's a role that can force room change votes like that?
True, it wouldn't be the first time something dumb happened for no reason. Just ask StanleyPalmtree he's got stories
While you're not wrong , eliminating 'noise' and uncertainty does help clear the game a bit. I've regretted not pushing harder for Blarglike players
To assume that the "shield" referenced is a game wide bulletproof is the most obvious conclusion, but why stop at an obvious conclusion?
There must be some people who know more about color than the rest of us, and they CARE what color room we go to because it will give them benefit, like powering up their not-yet-charged roles. A whole lot of players have said nothing that was not directly relating to this mechanic, and trying to push the conversation purely that way is suss.
Godfather, you never answered the question I asked you - what has you in here on your most hated day phase, working so hard?
There must be some people who know more about color than the rest of us, and they CARE what color room we go to because it will give them benefit, like powering up their not-yet-charged roles. A whole lot of players have said nothing that was not directly relating to this mechanic, and trying to push the conversation purely that way is suss.
Godfather, you never answered the question I asked you - what has you in here on your most hated day phase, working so hard?
Short phases make it feel more urgent, and unlike most day 1s, we do have SOMETHING concrete to talk about, plus I have 90 minutes of commuting on a train each day, so ample time to post.
Seriously... but y'all are on the right ideA.
Bronsonlee. You owe me a drink. Reading that made laugh so hard!!
move: orange room
I just want to see all of Zipped's shit in one place. First thing I note is multiple posts without a move, so if that's mandatory, brazil is being very forgiving so far.
There's 3 posts without a room. The first could just be him not seeing a PM, the second and third immediately followed by the following posts.
His post requirement is suspicious, but it's nothing that screams "I'M SCUM!" to me.
I'd be more wary of people suggesting otherwise and trying to direct the vote in his direction.
I'd be more wary of people suggesting otherwise and trying to direct the vote in his direction.
Could be a neutral which is still a better result than lynching town tbf.
The post requirement isn't a sure thing. Don't know why you'd talk about it as such.
I'm under the impression that Zipped is just fooling around to look scummy. So either a scum that would be purposefully bussed for some reason (like a lynch bomb, but that seems like a stretch to use this early in the game) or a townie PR that doesn't want to get targeted at night because he'll continue to look scummy throughout the game provided he never gets lynched.
Neither are really great moves, unfortunately
Neither are really great moves, unfortunately
How would a lynch bomb work? Can't say I've ever heard of it before
My take is that the Shield will be a one-shot protection that either gives a player bulletproof or will be a no-kill day. Either way, it's a room we don't want to waste, so using it on the right day is going to be paramount for town; it could easily be hijacked by scum.
It's a role that can have differently abilities, but they all ostensibly give scum an extra kill.
- On lynch, the last person to vote for the bomb dies too
- On lynch, the bomb can pick someone to die with them
- On lynch, scum gets an extra kill that night
for instance
It's a really weird move to play this early in the game.
Doubtful. I'm not saying Zipped isn't scum, but at this point I just think it's noise.