On a visit to Europe to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of the first world war, Donald Trump insisted to his then chief of staff, John Kelly: "Well, Hitler did a lot of good things."
The remark from the former US president on the 2018 trip, which reportedly "stunned" Kelly, a retired US Marine Corps general, is reported in a new book by Michael Bender of the Wall Street Journal.
Frankly, We Did Win This Election has been widely trailed ahead of publication next week. The Guardian obtained a copy.
Bender reports that Trump made the remark during an impromptu history lesson in which Kelly "reminded the president which countries were on which side during the conflict" and "connected the dots from the first world war to the second world war and all of Hitler's atrocities".
But Bender says unnamed sources reported that Kelly "told the president that he was wrong, but Trump was undeterred", emphasizing German economic recovery under Hitler during the 1930s.
"Kelly pushed back again," Bender writes, "and argued that the German people would have been better off poor than subjected to the Nazi genocide."
Bender adds that Kelly told Trump that even if his claim about the German economy under the Nazis after 1933 were true, "you cannot ever say anything supportive of Adolf Hitler. You just can't."
Bender writes that Kelly did his best to overcome Trump's "stunning disregard for history".
"Senior officials described his understanding of slavery, Jim Crow, or the Black experience in general post-civil war as vague to nonexistent," he writes. "But Trump's indifference to Black history was similar to his disregard for the history of any race, religion or creed."
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...is anyone surprised?