We need to talk about certain defence forces.

[Skeleton]

I think we need to talk about who and what certain posters defend, in one instance and rightfully so people defend a passion, but I've seen some quite alarming posts defending a certain singer recently, for a site that is apparently so progressive there's a real issue here, after seeing within a thread about R Kelly users very quickly jumping to a guilty verdict, why now a documentary about Micheal Jackson we're seeing people defend a man who has paid off multiple families?

I find it deeply concerning that people
Will dismiss victims interviews and almost victim blame them, that's never ok.

It's not progressive to support someone who clearly had a lot of issues in life and also predatory taste. I personally think that anyone defending Jackson is also a dangerous person and should be banned.

Let's not forget the issues both this and an old site had with people who were of the same mindset as other predators.
I don't find anyone who defends such a person having a non dangerous point of view.

Posters are so quick to condemn people that have different political / views but you're also infested with people that defend people that have had sexual relations with kids. It's not a good look, and the fact that people will be banned quicker for agreeing with trump than with a pedophile is baffling to me.

Is there anyone else that finds these types of defence forces really uncomfortable? As for me it really doesn't sit right.

 

[It’s Time To Go]

I find certain types of defence forces incredibly disingenuous (is that the right word) in the sense of they often completely dismiss stuff like evidence staring them in the face, witness testimonies, etc. Like they're just declining to accept that someone they were a fan of was a monster, and often do so by acting like they're the smart ones, or the objective ones, or whatever.

 

[Pikachu]

Defense forces for when From Software doesn't have review copies are the worst

 

[-COOLIO-]

to be honest, defense force is another one of those stupid terms that's been popularized into triviality on this board. it's essentially come to mean "the people i disagree with". and yes, this is a discussion board, and if it's a good discussion board then there's going to be people you disagree with.

 

[DJ_Lae]

I dunno, I think that Terry Crews' apology was legitimate. Immediately disowning him because of one fuck-up after years of positive stuff is about as knee-jerk as I'd expect from this forum.

 

[Lkr]

people are irrational at the end of the day. in some ways, i think some people are such big fans that they simply do not want it to be true. this denial is problematic and shows how these celebrities get away with it for so long tbh.

but i can also see it as a reaction to your childhood hero being a downright awful person and struggling to come to terms with it. if i am a huge michael jackson fan, and this is who he really is, what does that say about me? in all honesty though, michael jackson is before my time so i honestly do not understand the infatuation; i don't see the big deal. but i'm young enough that by the time i started really looking into his music, i had already known from gossip and inappropriate jokes in elementary school that this guy was a child molester.

imo the most troublesome and dangerous 'defense force' in our society is folks willing to defend those who do not put their ketchup back in the fridge after opening it. how could anyone defend that in good faith?

 

[thesoapster]

I'm not sure "we" do. Report posts, let the moderators decide.

 

[Deleted member 48897]

"I've never even heard of a defense force before but I know you're wrong"

 

[adj_noun]

to be honest, defense force is another one of those stupid terms that's been popularized into triviality on this board. it's essentially come to mean "the people i disagree with". and yes, this is a discussion board, and if it's a good discussion board, then there's going to be people you disagree with.

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In b4 the defense force defense force

 

[King_Moc]

to be honest, defense force is another one of those stupid terms that's been popularized into triviality on this board. it's essentially come to mean "the people i disagree with". and yes, this is a discussion board, and if it's a good discussion board then there's going to be people you disagree with.

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It's supposed to mean people that are defending the indefensible afaik. Like MJ.

 

[nsilvias]

The only thing MJ is guilty of is being a weirdo.
Unfortunately a lot of people conflate weirdo with pedo.
R Kelly on the other needs to go. It was obvious the moment he tried to marry Aaliyah.

 

[-COOLIO-]

It's supposed to mean people that are defending the indefensible afaik. Like MJ.

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psssh, then both bernie sanders and hillary clinton are indefensible because the term get's flung in the political threads pretty frequently.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

to be honest, defense force is another one of those stupid terms that's been popularized into triviality on this board. it's essentially come to mean "the people i disagree with". and yes, this is a discussion board, and if it's a good discussion board then there's going to be people you disagree with.

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Amen. Now I'm going to ignore this thread before it devolves into garbage like the MJ thread itself, mostly because of people saying the same stupid terms in there instead of discussing anything.

 

[Mahonay]

I find certain types of defence forces incredibly disingenuous (is that the right word) in the sense of they often completely dismiss stuff like evidence staring them in the face, witness testimonies, etc. Like they're just declining to accept that someone they were a fan of was a monster, and often do so by acting like they're the smart ones, or the objective ones, or whatever.

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We get this to an annoying degree any time there's a Chris Brown thread.

There were a decent number of users inexplicably defending XXXTentacion for a good while, until there was too much evidence to ignore what a monster he was.

 

[Ravensmash]

to be honest, defense force is another one of those stupid terms that's been popularized into triviality on this board. it's essentially come to mean "the people i disagree with". and yes, this is a discussion board, and if it's a good discussion board, then there's going to be people you disagree with.

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THANK YOU.

I also don't understand this desire to have posters banned - I think this forum does a decent enough job of self-policing stupid opinions without needing for the authorities to step in every 5 seconds.

 

[Gustaf]

i will defend TLJ till i die

defense force is such a bullllshit term,

it is you talking from your high horse how you have a better opinion than the people you disagree with

 

[SaintBowWow]

to be honest, defense force is another one of those stupid terms that's been popularized into triviality on this board. it's essentially come to mean "the people i disagree with". and yes, this is a discussion board, and if it's a good discussion board then there's going to be people you disagree with.

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Nah, everyone who disagrees with me is just a troll arguing in bad faith

Spoiler

-COOLIO- is cancelled

 

[SteveWinwood]

anyone i disagree with is a monolith and they are bad

 

[FUME5]

We need to talk about people who start their thread titles with 'We need to talk about".

 

[Windrunner]

Please do not make meta threads. Users are encouraged to report posts that they think break the rules.