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Why is everyone forgiving Blizzard so they can play a videogame?
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Why is everyone forgetting all these shitty practices towards workers, customers, whoever in all of the industry?
Because the majority in the end doesn't give a damn, as long as they can play their games
Because the majority in the end doesn't give a damn, as long as they can play their games
Blizzard isn't a person and it's more than 4000 people with different values and ideals who have put hundreds or thousands of man hours into making these games something we can enjoy, many of whom probably don't feel the same way the corporate heads do. I don't think it's right to reign on their hard work and time to shine by making it sound like every single one of them are part of a hivemind who are forced to share the same values as the people they work for.
Outrage culture and witch hunts on the internet has proven one thing. People's memories are short, and their morals fall by the wayside for convenience. It was true of Chick-Fil-A, it was true of Riot, it was true of Blizzard, and will continue to be true.
As long as it's convenient, people will stay mad and tweet and post about it all day, beyond that it's just moral grandstanding and virtue signaling at the right time before going back to business as usual. That's just how people are.
As long as it's convenient, people will stay mad and tweet and post about it all day, beyond that it's just moral grandstanding and virtue signaling at the right time before going back to business as usual. That's just how people are.
If I boycotted every company that bent over for China I'd be living naked on the side of the road. The fact that you only just learned about this because of Blizzard doesn't mean it hasn't been happening for years and doesn't suddenly make it more pressing than every other issue in the world.
Everyone is culpable under capitalism for participating in global atrocities. The best you can do is whatever little victories you can make to help destabilize the system. Whether that comes in the form of organizing a boycott, voting for politicians, spreading activism and awareness of domestic and international issues, supporting unionization and worker ownership of their businesses, or whatever method you think is best, you're good in my book.
Everyone is culpable under capitalism for participating in global atrocities. The best you can do is whatever little victories you can make to help destabilize the system. Whether that comes in the form of organizing a boycott, voting for politicians, spreading activism and awareness of domestic and international issues, supporting unionization and worker ownership of their businesses, or whatever method you think is best, you're good in my book.
The people forgiving never really cared in the first place. People who cared that China is able to get a American company to bend the knee saw straight through Blizzcon shenanigans.
Diablo 4 had a visually awesome clip at the end of it's trailer (the stuff leading to it was boring to me), and it's gameplay look slightly less basic as D3. Overwatch 2 looks like Overwatch with a bit more structure in it's PVE attempts. Not impressed.
Diablo 4 had a visually awesome clip at the end of it's trailer (the stuff leading to it was boring to me), and it's gameplay look slightly less basic as D3. Overwatch 2 looks like Overwatch with a bit more structure in it's PVE attempts. Not impressed.
The employees have livelihoods on the line AND have already shown their support for the HK controversy in multiple ways. No one is saying to fire a bunch of employees or something, but just how easily people are won over. Everyone saw this coming, Blizz con would happen and everyone would be right back on the Blizz train.
All these Blizzard threads and impressions are littered with "free Hong Kong" and "it's a shame that..." etc. I mean most of the threads on this forum have staff posts thread marked about it. People can be positive about a product while still disliking the ethics of the company/people behind it.
Because typing "Fuck Blizzard, Free Hong Kong" in every Blizzard-related thread is as an empty a gesture as Blizzard's own apology.
Why do we still mass buy products like Iphones who are made by people that are worked so hard they think their only way out is suicide. So much so that they built nets on the outside of all the facilities to try and stop people from jumping, because so many people were doing it.
Because realistically, the Hong Kong situation doesn't affect them whereas not being able to play a video game does.
Hong Kong isn't an issue people are facing directly in their lives. They don't really care that much.
As I'm constantly reminded, every company does bad things all the time, so I've completely stopped caring except for the truly comic-book-villain egregious (like a company which is directly responsible for the imprisonment of toddlers or something) , and this is not that. Otherwise I'd have to either be incredibly, unrealistically indisposed, or give credence to stuff merely on the idea of me having heard about it, not because something didn't happen, and low profile cases are still things even if they're low profile.
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Im gonna wait and see what they do and how and if they make amends. Im not unfamiliar to making certain stands regarding my entertainment but at least they have shown some vulnerability to the issue unlike, lets say, Rockstar and their crunch culture.
If your company shows a dedication and passion over a long period of time to not give a shit about people, I'll stop rewarding your behavior. Blizzard had their big fuckup and its still early days. By the time these games release I'll have a better view of their culture.
If your company shows a dedication and passion over a long period of time to not give a shit about people, I'll stop rewarding your behavior. Blizzard had their big fuckup and its still early days. By the time these games release I'll have a better view of their culture.
Just because they are outraged for a cause, doesn't mean that we all should be.
My fight is with the social injustice in America because it directly affects me, my friends as well as other here. Once we get that squared away, I can move on to try to help cleanup other places.
Americans love to point fingers at other countries when it's really messed up here for certain groups of people.
My fight is with the social injustice in America because it directly affects me, my friends as well as other here. Once we get that squared away, I can move on to try to help cleanup other places.
Americans love to point fingers at other countries when it's really messed up here for certain groups of people.
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Gaming is a subculture that is explicitly hyper focused on consumerism. You're never going to get gamers to not buy games, which inherently means gamers will inevitably make amoral and even immoral decisions in pursuit of the hobby.
I'm certainly not forgiving Blizzard execs for their stance on China and how much they botched up in their responses since then.
Doesn't mean I'm not hyped for OW2. Though thankfully the content that isn't the PvE will be free for existing OW1 owners. And if ever I want to check out the PvE stuff, it will definitely be when I buy a retail copy (that is if it does happen) second hand. That way they won't get a cent from me.
Just hope the Blizzard execs do more than just do that hollow apology.
Doesn't mean I'm not hyped for OW2. Though thankfully the content that isn't the PvE will be free for existing OW1 owners. And if ever I want to check out the PvE stuff, it will definitely be when I buy a retail copy (that is if it does happen) second hand. That way they won't get a cent from me.
Just hope the Blizzard execs do more than just do that hollow apology.
Righto.
My stance on them hasn't changed and the consensus in the apology thread is that it was weak and performative.
Yeah let me punish the hundreds of employees, hundreds of esports players, and myself because of some executives dumb ass decision.
By now I have accepted people try to pretend be all enraged and all that shit and then when the company announces something new, they forgive them and get hyped. See Atlus, one of the most bigoted companies when it comes to LGBTQ+ issues; people will yell, be outraged and condemn them, yet those very same people will gladly buy the new Persona game from them.
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I appreciate all the ERA folks who are saying it's not everyone. I know that it isn't, but it's a bit devastating seeing the new Blizzard game threads top the gaming forum. Fuck you got mine is a real problem.
I don't think that most ppl openly saying that they're looking forward to the games are part of the ppl stating that they plan to boycott.
Your friend is exaggerating.
Probably because realistically anything they do really wouldn't have an impact, at least not on the level people want. Also just because someone might be playing Blizz games doesn't mean they aren't doing other things that you yourself aren't. I'm not going to judge on anyone not boycotting something, because they could be a better person than me in many other ways. Maybe Blizz games are one of the few things that bring them joy in this miserable world, we all have something like that.
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I wouldn't buy it if it came on what is left of the year. But I can't say I would remember in 2022 or whenever it ends up releasing.
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