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The Handmaid's Tale S2 |OT| Gilead is within you.
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Speaking of, forgot to mention that if you have Amazon Prime, the whole book is free via Kindle.
Elizabeth Moss and Yvonne Strahvoski need to win every award imaginable for this season. They're just way too good at their roles. Serena yelling OFFRED was fucking bone chilling lol. And the final scene was downright agonizing to watch. This show makes me avert my eyes more than anything else I've ever seen. Eager to see how this season wraps up in the next two episodes!
It's worth it. There's redundancy like most streaming shows. But the acting is superb.
Quite a bit. The standouts this season is Serena Joy and Offred/June.
I legitimately don't understand people who like S1 more than S2. This season shifted the show to have June and Serena act as co-protagonists and that has worked wonders.
As for the discussion of how "redeemable" Serena is, that ship sailed for me after
As for the discussion of how "redeemable" Serena is, that ship sailed for me after
she raped June. That was a wake up call for me, kinda like when Spike tried to rape Buffy. Never forget that this character is a monster.
No. We haven't learned anything new about the characters and the plot has barely moved forward. If it wasn't already obvious the writers intend to drag on the Waterford house status quo for many seasons, it is now. It's just recycling the same emotionally traumatic notes over and over again.
The acting, directing, and cinematography remains very good but it doesn't really matter at this point IMO.
Everything except the overarching plot is superlative. The best written, acted, directed and shot TV show right now, IMO. But it does feel caught in a loop. If the next two episodes don't change the playing field some way, I don't know how much I'll look forward to S3, no matter how well made it is.
I read them.
Not really. Some characters won't be in Gilead, but the core of June with the Waterfords remains.
So basically it hinges on whether or not I care about some great acting, directing, and cinematography above the narrative. I do love really good examples of all three. Would be a lot easier for me if I didn't have to pay for a 1 month Hulu sub. Definitely would watch if it were on Prime without hesitation.
I'm all in too. But I'm not expecting the show to turn into some Prison Break/Death Wish revenge fantasy. The show is a very slow burn but I find every episode riveting.
Same! My sister and I watched together last night and it was nice to talk about the episode after with someone. That Isaac/Eden scene was horrid. Waterford gets creepier every second and Serena is just pure evil!
I think the overall story arc will involve the differences in how June and Serena evolve within Gilead in general. June's arc will be in surviving and escaping Gilead, while Serena's will involve her deftness in navigating her way through Gilead's power structure and bending it to her own will.
Expect the wives to band together similar to how June and the handmaids did last season, but in their case, for self serving reasons though, absent of any of the altruistic motives demonstrated by the handmaids.
It's possible that season 3 might explore the notion of how people tied to Gilead seek redemption, but I don't think Serena can be possibly redeemed. The show would lose more than it gained by going that route, especially when they could slot other characters into that path.
I was really hoping they would start finishing up the story, but it looks like they will stretch it out as long as possible, sadly. Not because i find it boring, I have enjoyed both seasons so far, but the thought of going through the horrific shit these people put up with only for the show to be cancelled without these sadistic bastards being made to suffer makes me sad.
I need a win for all the handsmaids. This show is too much.
This last episode was hard to watch, the one before was hard to watch. There needs to be a ray of light at some point.
Every episode feels like a red wedding.
This last episode was hard to watch, the one before was hard to watch. There needs to be a ray of light at some point.
Every episode feels like a red wedding.
I just read it is planned for 10 seasons. That's some bullshit, I can't see it lasting that long and will either be cancelled with no resolution or rushed...
Not impressed.
Here's the link, but beware, it has book spoilers:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....dmaids-tale-season-3-news-date-cast-spoilers/
Not impressed.
Here's the link, but beware, it has book spoilers:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....dmaids-tale-season-3-news-date-cast-spoilers/
It's probably been painted red and a white bonnet installed on its head.
This season is on par with season 1 if not better tbh. It has some issues, the most obvious being the reuse of a plot, but honestly it's overblown and when you think about it the show is more realistic than we want it to be; the reality of it is depressing but it makes sense. The acting is better in season 2 with Yvonne in particular really stepping it up and should be gettin some Emmys. Story wise there's more to keep you watching this season with interesting developments happening every episode, and characters becoming multifaceted and developed.
I don't think this series should get 10 seasons, that's rediculous, but they do a commendable job with keeping the show interesting without going into downfall territory yet. I could see 4-5 seasons max before quality truly dips.
Yes plz. No more June escaping, June stuck back at the Waterfords.
Serena turning heel is the only compelling path for her character though. It's a much more engaging story to tell, having her realize her mistake in architecting part of Gilead, how she is a victim of her creation, and what she will do to break free from it. Of course there's no redeeming her in a ethical sense, she should be executed for war crimes among other things. That does not mean her only path left is to be a ruthless villain ala Cersei, because given the political nature of her character that's just boring.
I'm still pretty in to the show; it probably helps that I marathoned the first ten episodes of the season last week and am just catching the last few as they air, so it's been a more compressed viewing experience.
My hope at this point is that season 2 is going to wind up being a transition season setting us up for a season 3 where
I can totally understand why this season is turning people off, but I've found it worth watching and think they've put in work to potentially go some interesting directions next year. No idea if they'll actually follow through, but the foundation is there.
My hope at this point is that season 2 is going to wind up being a transition season setting us up for a season 3 where
June becomes a bit player and the story focuses elsewhere. Moss is good, but the character has sort of run through everything they can do without changing the status quo. This season found some interesting things to do with the character--it says some interesting things that while she was in labor the memories she flashed back to to get through it included Charlotte/Angela's birth, with the handmaid's chant echoing in her ears, something that sort of prepared her for giving birth to Holly in a way her hospital birth experience didn't. But beyond that she either needs to get away or the show needs to stop focusing on her so much.
Because what this season has done a fairly decent job of is opening up the world in general and larger Gilead society. We saw what living is like for those outside the handmaid/commander/aunt system, we've got a vague idea of what the global political scene is like with the refugee American government and rebel radio stations, and Emily's new posting has a lot of potential depending on what they're planning to do with Whitford's character. Even things like the execution of Isaac and Eden set up for actual dissatisfaction within the citizens of Gilead themselves--their deaths seemed to emotionally impact the 'important' people in a way most of the ongoing horrors haven't.
So I'm kind of hoping season 3 just features Offred as one of the characters in Gilead and is less her personal story, because I think they've set up a lot of interest that future seasons could cover without needing to rehash Offred vs the Waterfords. How is the rest of the world coping with the lowered birthrates? Did that handmaidens for oranges trade deal go through? etc. The glimpses of Canada, seeing the truth about handmaids get out, stuff like that has established a lot of things going on in the world we don't see all of, and I kind of hope the show embraces that more next season.
I also honestly wouldn't be adverse to a timeskip--Serena Joy chose to do horrible things and create an awful society in order to have a kid; I do wonder how she's going to handle bringing up a daughter who will be forced to conform to Gilead's ass-backwards ways given how hard she's chafing against them. Serena Joy is awful but she also likely will want a better world for her daughter than the one she has.
Because what this season has done a fairly decent job of is opening up the world in general and larger Gilead society. We saw what living is like for those outside the handmaid/commander/aunt system, we've got a vague idea of what the global political scene is like with the refugee American government and rebel radio stations, and Emily's new posting has a lot of potential depending on what they're planning to do with Whitford's character. Even things like the execution of Isaac and Eden set up for actual dissatisfaction within the citizens of Gilead themselves--their deaths seemed to emotionally impact the 'important' people in a way most of the ongoing horrors haven't.
So I'm kind of hoping season 3 just features Offred as one of the characters in Gilead and is less her personal story, because I think they've set up a lot of interest that future seasons could cover without needing to rehash Offred vs the Waterfords. How is the rest of the world coping with the lowered birthrates? Did that handmaidens for oranges trade deal go through? etc. The glimpses of Canada, seeing the truth about handmaids get out, stuff like that has established a lot of things going on in the world we don't see all of, and I kind of hope the show embraces that more next season.
I also honestly wouldn't be adverse to a timeskip--Serena Joy chose to do horrible things and create an awful society in order to have a kid; I do wonder how she's going to handle bringing up a daughter who will be forced to conform to Gilead's ass-backwards ways given how hard she's chafing against them. Serena Joy is awful but she also likely will want a better world for her daughter than the one she has.
I can totally understand why this season is turning people off, but I've found it worth watching and think they've put in work to potentially go some interesting directions next year. No idea if they'll actually follow through, but the foundation is there.
I took the plunge. Watched the first episode. Pretty much as said in the thread so far- great cinematography and acting, plot and pacing ehhh. I'll keep going, of course.
Yeah, I agree with the beginning of your spoilers. Especially if they are planning on 10 seasons.
No way in hell it can last 10 seasons, unless they cut it down to 3 eps per season.
Five seasons would be ideal for me. What I'm wonder is how they would handle actual military sequences, given that this show is more cerebral in nature. How do they make military conflict tactile when it will only be the backdrop?
I'm interested in the writers exploring the degrees in which redemption for people who help facilitate fascist regimes. Who's resistant to redemption, and when it is/should be denied to some individuals.
That's what I've been thinking. Like if June ever got to Canada and the show became her trying to get her children back, what does that even look like? She's not going to be sneaking around at night with an assault rifle.
I'm waiting for the episode where women band together, fuck shit up and take back their freedom.
I'd actually watch the show if that happened, but right now it sounds too depressing for me. Sexism is big enough a part of our lives as it is without a show exploring how much worse it could be.
I imagine most of the drama would be similar to what's going on now. Maybe a bit of subterfuge to quicken the pace. They could introduce military sequences in drips and drabs similar to what you saw with the colonies, but the main narrative thrust would need to remain in Gilead. Military sequences would be used to keep viewers up to speed on the rest of the world closing in on Gilead, and how the people under its thumb are adapting to it.
Kind of like Supernatural... Had some interesting eps here and there after S5, but as a story they should've stopped. Due to fanfare, it's at 14 seasons with no end in sight... This is a case of winning all the Emmys and wanting the gravy to keep flowing. June had her baby, now let's progress and start heading towards a climax.
10 seasons of Offred and Co. doing their thing? Much too much.
10 seasons set in this world, with a timejump every few seasons to allow for the story to span 200 years? As long as they find a way to keep things fresh, then I don't see a problem with that (even though any scripted show reaching 10 seasons is unlikely for one reason or another).
Season 11 was the best or at least 2nd best season of the entire series.