I agree indie devs should be doing all they can to bring their game to the console. I personally think their is a big market for mobile games on switch. You are seeing some of those devs starting to realize that.
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Fox n Forests dev:“Switch is our strongest platform to date”3:1 sales ratio with PC and 4:1 with PS4
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Its already flooded with indies. Its obvious by now that Switch users buy games like crazy.
Stop making shit up and playing the victim. The devs didn't praise Nintendo in that quote or even say that sales are good. I hope it sold well for the devs but the quote doesn't say that.
Sure, but on a system with way less sold SKUs compared to a PC and/or PS4
I haven't heard of this game but that screenshot looks rad. Is it a Ghouls and Ghosts type of game?
Threads such as this one are clockwork.
Dev says Switch release sold best, with numbers: "Duh, exclusivity or launch exclusivity!" or "Switch owners are starved, duh!"
Dev says Switch release sold best, without numbers: "Well how much is this game going to sell, really? :thinking:" "It's not Minecraft or Rocket League." "Less competition, duh!"
It seems fairly obvious the developer is happy with the results. But because numbers weren't provided, fuck 'em, they're not enough to matter, right?
Threads such as this one are clockwork.
Dev says Switch release sold best, with numbers: "Duh, exclusivity or launch exclusivity!" or "Switch owners are starved, duh!"
Dev says Switch release sold best, without numbers: "Well how much is this game going to sell, really? :thinking:" "It's not Minecraft or Rocket League." "Less competition, duh!"
It seems fairly obvious the developer is happy with the results. But because numbers weren't provided, fuck 'em, they're not enough to matter, right?
What's the attach rate of the Switch? And if we don't have that, what is Nintendo's forecast of how many games they'll sell this year? How many did they sell last year? How does this compare to PS4/Xbox/Steam?
To start it of Sony sold roughly 247 million games over the last year:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so...sold-79m-total-sotware-–-246-9-million.38902/
Nintendo predicts it'll sell 20 million Switch systems and 100 million games in total this fiscal year:
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...0_million_switch_consoles_this_financial_year
Considering the Switch is selling significantly less software than PS4 isn't it likely that these indie success stories are a result of having an ecosystem with more room for indies due to a smaller library and less AAA competition, compared with other platforms like PS4?
Plus the PS store is painful to use. If you want to sell via discovery you need to make browsing a pleasure, but it's not. The PS store is awful.
I imagine a lot of users avoid using it to discover new content, and only use it to buy games they're already aware of.
The stores poor usability likely causes Sony to lose millions of $ per year.
People keep acting like every new Switch indie title only compared with 4 other titles on the eShop xD
Not really. More like star Fox Adventures X Mega Man X3. It's a pretty bad game.
The install base of the PS4 is around 4 times the Switch at the moment so software sales will naturally be higher. Nintendo also doesnt count digital only titles in their forecasts.
Generally speaking, though, the Switch lends itself well to more to smaller budget and medium budget titles because of the portable nature of the device and graphical expectations. An indie or mid tier game publisher will have a harder time selling their game on the PS4 because AAA blockbusters are released on a monthly basis and for 60 dollars too.
Second answer to the same quote :)
Just glancing quickly at the numbers it seems like we might be able to compare the attach rate of the two systems to determine if Switch users actually buy more games. Using the Resetera link I posted earlier:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so...sold-79m-total-sotware-–-246-9-million.38902/
We can see at the bottom of the first post, that when PS4 had sold 18.5 millions systems, they sold 81.8 million games. Switch was at 17.79 million systems sold by March 31 2018:
https://www.vg247.com/2018/04/26/switch-sales-over-17m-units-breath-of-the-wild/
And we can see in the same link/picture that Nintendo sold 68.9 million Switch games. So at almost the same install base, Switch users are buying less games than PS4 users did at (roughly) the same install base.
We don't know what will happen in the future, but if Nintendo succeeds in selling 20 million Switch systems by March 31 2019 and 100 million games as they predict, they'll have sold 37.79 million Switches and 168.9 million games. Using the Resetera link above we can compare that to how many games PS4 users were buying, when roughly the same amount of systems were sold and we see, that when PS4 was at 40 million they sold 271 million games. So Nintendo will have to outperform their prediction significantly, if they are to sell as much software as PS4 did, when both systems hit a 40 million systems install base.
So Switch users are not buying more games than PS4 users were, when they were at the same install base.
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Game must have serious issues as it got burned down by critics because it sure looks nice on first sight?
Main bad thing that I have heard is that it is like an hour long except for forced walls where you have to gather a certain amount of this or that to go on to the next level.
Such software numbers usually only include sales of games that have a retail version. So retail and download sales combined, but games without physical retail version excluded.
The trailer looks pretty nice. Looks like a SNES sidescrolling action platformer of old.
Second answer to the same quote :)
Just glancing quickly at the numbers it seems like we might be able to compare the attach rate of the two systems to determine if Switch users actually buy more games. Using the Resetera link I posted earlier:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so...sold-79m-total-sotware-–-246-9-million.38902/
We can see at the bottom of the first post, that when PS4 had sold 18.5 millions systems, they sold 81.8 million games. Switch was at 17.79 million systems sold by March 31 2018:
https://www.vg247.com/2018/04/26/switch-sales-over-17m-units-breath-of-the-wild/
And we can see in the same link/picture that Nintendo sold 68.9 million Switch games. So at almost the same install base, Switch users are buying less games than PS4 users did at (roughly) the same install base.
We don't know what will happen in the future, but if Nintendo succeeds in selling 20 million Switch systems by March 31 2019 and 100 million games as they predict, they'll have sold 37.79 million Switches and 168.9 million games. Using the Resetera link above we can compare that to how many games PS4 users were buying, when roughly the same amount of systems were sold and we see, that when PS4 was at 40 million they sold 271 million games. So Nintendo will have to outperform their prediction significantly, if they are to sell as much software as PS4 did, when both systems hit a 40 million systems install base.
So Switch users are not buying more games than PS4 users were, when they were at the same install base.
Nintendo doesn't report sales of digital only titles. Sony does.
The 68.9 million games include "both packaged and downloadable versions of software":
That's with an install base of 19.79 million Switch systems like I said above. And that means Switch users are buying fewer games than PS4 users did with the same install base (as compared more thoroughly in the last post).
Yeah I am digging it quite a bit, definitely a Genesis/SNES/Amiga vibe.
Sadly I think I will wait to be able to get it for a tenner or less. Right now it is on sale for $14.99 but I have a couple of things I really want more
I'd be shocked if you were aware of 20% of the games on steam
I'd be shocked if anyone was aware of 20% of the decent or better games on Steam. There are so many games on the platform that even quality stuff falls through the cracks.
I really wanted to like the game but the sprite work is really the best part of it. The levels are too long and too boring and you have to backtrack through them soo much after you get new arrow abilities since they unlock new areas and items which are necessary to progress. The boss battles are kinda cute tho. Get it when it's like $5 imo.
Yeah, that was my point. I was going to say 10% but didn't want to be so aggressive.
I was going through my discovery queue today and I literally knew about 2 games in the queue. The rest were complete unknowns to me
That figure doesn't include digital only titles, as has been already stated above.The 68.9 million games include "both packaged and downloadable versions of software":
That's with an install base of 19.79 million Switch systems like I said above. And that means Switch users are buying fewer games than PS4 users did with the same install base (as compared more thoroughly in the last post).
since a lot of people seem to not know about the game, i'll drop a review i wrote for it here.
http://squackle.com/25900/supchron/games/fox-n-forests-pc-review/
it is a pretty good game, but has some issues.
http://squackle.com/25900/supchron/games/fox-n-forests-pc-review/
it is a pretty good game, but has some issues.
No, what it says is that it includes digital sales of games with a physical version.
Only thing i know about this game is that the artwork is *8*~fabulous~*8* and made me think real hard about blind buying it just because of it. Look at this magnificent fox
Glad to see the dev is finding success with it though.
Glad to see the dev is finding success with it though.
Digital and retail packaged, but not digital only. This would exclude things like Minecraft which didn't have a retail package until recently.The 68.9 million games include "both packaged and downloadable versions of software":
That's with an install base of 19.79 million Switch systems like I said above. And that means Switch users are buying fewer games than PS4 users did with the same install base (as compared more thoroughly in the last post).
Isn't ironic that the games OT is shorter than this thread and the quality of the game has been rarely mentioned. Only that it's selling on the switch. For some people that's all that matters. More ammo for the war. I'd be nice if people could enjoy what they liked because they like it instead of how it looks to other people. That's what half of these "switch sells" threads are.
You're misinterpreting this. It includes digital sales of games that have a retail version. (Like Breath of the Wild) It doesn't include games that have only received a digital release. (Like Blossom Tales, or FNF)
I am from Denmark, so sometimes things get lost in translation, but I just can't make this sentence fit what you say:
It says both packaged (meaning physical games) and downloadable versions (meaning digital games), but assuming you guys are right, does anyone have the attach rate of the Switch? (Providing better numbers than I could find with a quick look).
It means it includes the digital sales of retail games. A game with no retail presence (Digital only) will not show up in the financials.
It only includes digital sales of games that have a physical release.
I.e. Breath of the Wild has both physical and digital releases, so both versions count. Something like Minecraft, which did not have a physical release until just recently, has not had any of its digital sales included.