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Burrman

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,633
Mechanical. As a kid Spider-Man seemed sort of realistic the me. The web shooters sort of added to that. It also shows being smart pays off.

It also added some sort of weakness to peter. Added problems for him.
 

THErest

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Oct 25, 2017
7,116
Im not arguing that it makes more sense, Im arguing that its more interesting and important for the character. Its a good way to show that he is a genius on the level of someone like Doc Ock

THIS. Spider-Man (Peter Parker) is a science themed superhero. He's got the neighborhood thing going on, but he is also a scientific genius.

How much of a smart guy is he really if all he develops is a web shooter and nothing else

Well, there's different kinds of smart. Besides, he's so focused on being a superhero he hardly has time for anything else. Anyway, this has been explored in more recent arcs in the comics.

That's a matter of opinion but ok

wut
 
Oct 25, 2017
29,520
Organic,

Mechanic is stupid personally,
The spider bite gives him powers and stuff but he then has to invent the main spider aspect of his hero identity?
eh.
 

ZeroX

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,266
Speed Force
Yeah I prefer organic, at least for the movies. The whole "shows his intelligence" is whack. It's an insane feat. If he could come up with super strong, easily produced webbing from rummaging around in the trash (MCU), how the fuck is he poor? He's a genius with a pretty revolutionary invention. You can show that he's smart without him being an absolute mastermind that apparently can't monetize.

The books going with things like Parker Industries makes it work a lot more to me.
 

Chamaeleonx

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Oct 27, 2017
2,348
Came into this thread expecting a natural spider to be better than some mechanical one that someone build. =x
 

Inugami

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Oct 25, 2017
14,995
It's one of the things that make comic Peter far more interesting than most animal based heroes... Dude does have things inherited from a spider, but he's also incredibly smart and puts that knowledge to use.
 

Deleted member 32563

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Nov 11, 2017
1,336
He later developed the ability to spin webbing organically. This superhuman ability is Spiderman's most distiguishable trait that seperates him from any other superhero....

Lmao...not after Marvel watered him down.

Everybody and there momma is a Spidey and has Organic webbing. Yeesh. Shame on you Marvel for doing Peter like that. They even had the same Spider bite twice, I thought Spiders rarely bite more than once?
 
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dennett316

Member
Nov 2, 2017
2,982
Blackpool, UK
No...mechanical is just, cooler. The organic thing is just weird...why his wrists? Why that finger motion in order to activate it if not a button? If you want to say it was the spider bite that caused it to be on the wrist, surely it'd only be on the one arm? Mechanical on his wrists is perfect for aiming and firing his webs, that makes sense for a guy who's been given these other powers. Why, biologically, would it organically grow out of his wrists and not out of his torso, for example? Or the ass end? Why did it give him spinnerets, but no other parts of a spider's anatomy? Why not extra eyes or legs?
Organic just doesn't work.
 

Sibersk Esto

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah I prefer organic, at least for the movies. The whole "shows his intelligence" is whack. It's an insane feat. If he could come up with super strong, easily produced webbing from rummaging around in the trash (MCU), how the fuck is he poor? He's a genius with a pretty revolutionary invention. You can show that he's smart without him being an absolute mastermind that apparently can't monetize.

The books going with things like Parker Industries makes it work a lot more to me.
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Oct 27, 2017
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I loved that they showed how he came up with the webbing in this movie. Honestly I prefer Mechanical but if Organic is done right it's done right. No need to waste a precious time explaining it.
 
Oct 26, 2017
35,600
All the people saying organic makes more sense must realize that the organic webs coming out of his wrists make even less sense.
 

Shazz

The Fallen
Nov 10, 2017
465
why cant they just combine the 2?

Just make it so that he has the organic webs but its not controllable(goes in all direction) so he makes the shooters to control it.
 

Jon Carter

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,746
Have they shown where he puts the liquid? Spider-Man would need a giant tank on his back for mechanical web shooters to work. Organic is just so much more credible.
 

Inugami

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Oct 25, 2017
14,995
Have they shown where he puts the liquid? Spider-Man would need a giant tank on his back for mechanical web shooters to work. Organic is just so much more credible.

How and in what way? How would them being organic solve this problem? Wouldn't he STILL need a giant storage tank somewhere in his body that would be incredibly conspicuous?
 

THErest

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Oct 25, 2017
7,116
Have they shown where he puts the liquid? Spider-Man would need a giant tank on his back for mechanical web shooters to work. Organic is just so much more credible.

Tiny pressurized capsules. They fit into the wrist device and he carries spares on his belt. Artists don't ever draw the bulges for presumably the same reason they draw the spandex costumes like body paint.

Anyway, speaking of tanks, how the hell does Iron Man breath at high altitudes and in space and underwater and stuff? I guess it's the sort of thing you have to accept and just enjoy the show.
 

KingM

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Oct 28, 2017
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Have they shown where he puts the liquid? Spider-Man would need a giant tank on his back for mechanical web shooters to work. Organic is just so much more credible.
Stored in little viles. Expands when it hits the hair. Think science class vial sized but has miles of the stuff per cartridge.
 

nded

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Nov 14, 2017
10,589
Maybe he was bitten by a radioactive wolf spider. Those produce no webs or silk apart from their egg sacs but are noted for their robustness, agility and sensory acuity far surpassing most other spiders.
 
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rude

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tiny pressurized capsules. They fit into the wrist device and he carries spares on his belt. Artists don't ever draw the bulges for presumably the same reason they draw the spandex costumes like body paint.

Anyway, speaking of tanks, how the hell does Iron Man breath at high altitudes and in space and underwater and stuff? I guess it's the sort of thing you have to accept and just enjoy the show.
It's somehow oxygenated and pressurized?
 
Mar 10, 2018
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It's kind of weird to be bit by a spider and be given all of the abilities a spider has, except the one that they're most known for.
 

BKatastrophe

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Oct 28, 2017
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A) I know we've had this thread before

B) If I recall, Ben Reilly came up with impact webbing. Can't do that with organic.
 

Deleted member 35011

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Dec 1, 2017
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I prefer mechanic because my first exposure to Spider-Man was that old ass cartoon where he could not punch people(and kid me didn't know he couldn't punch people and never noticed the animation issues either haha) and that's what he had there. Plus I liked the gimmicky stuff when he would use special "ammo" and stuff, it was neat. Loved that stuff.
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
93,215
I like that they didn't want to do a copy and past with 2099 so they gave Miguel claws, venom bite, and super vision to replace the spider sense
 

Jon Carter

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Oct 27, 2017
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How and in what way? How would them being organic solve this problem? Wouldn't he STILL need a giant storage tank somewhere in his body that would be incredibly conspicuous?

Not sure I understand your question. It's a substance naturally produced by his body just like in an actual spider. It's an easy concept for the audience to accept. Mechanical web shooters require such a giant leap in logic.

Tiny pressurized capsules. They fit into the wrist device and he carries spares on his belt. Artists don't ever draw the bulges for presumably the same reason they draw the spandex costumes like body paint.

Anyway, speaking of tanks, how the hell does Iron Man breath at high altitudes and in space and underwater and stuff? I guess it's the sort of thing you have to accept and just enjoy the show.

Stored in little viles. Expands when it hits the hair. Think science class vial sized but has miles of the stuff per cartridge.

Don't they show Peter grabbing a bottle of liquid in Homecoming?
 
Mar 10, 2018
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Cheetah-Man

Cheetah-Man

Does whatever a cheetah can

Except run fast

Can't do that

Had to build cheetah legs from scratch

Look oooooouuut,

Here comes-a Cheetah-Maaaan
 

nded

Member
Nov 14, 2017
10,589
Maybe he has spinnerets but they're in an embarrassing place. Or they just produce regular spider silk that he has to pull out by hand and it's not that useful.
 

Richietto

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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Hes a smart dude that creates incredible gadgets. Organic webs, while they make sense to have as an attribute from a spider don't make sense coming from his wrists. Like all the attributes he gets are realistic to a sense except for webs from the wrist.
 

amusix

The Fallen
Oct 29, 2017
1,598
Thread title is absolutely correct.

Any argument that mechanical shows off Peter's intelligence is laughable. As for 'it can create problems when he runs out!' is pointless, as organic shooters can have the exact same problems.
 

Platy

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Oct 25, 2017
27,709
Brazil
I like mechanical more, but since most adaptations are shitty on exploring the "genious inventor" peter, than organic makes mor sense

Like in amazing spider man they LITERALLY made peter follow some nerds to listen about eletric stuff and pendulums .... because SKATE peter parker would NEVER know about it
 

Effect

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Oct 25, 2017
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I never understood the outrage some had over the organic Something like that would be organic in nature to go along with all the other spider powers he has. The idea that one of THE defining features of a spider wasn't organic makes no sense.
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
93,215
I never understood the outrage some had over the organic. It made complete sense that something like that would be organic in nature to go along with all the other spider powers he has. The idea that one of THE defining features of a spider wasn't organic makes no sense.
But we are not talking about defining features of a spider, we are talking about the defining features of Spiderman. It's like asking why Wasp doesn't have a stinger on her butt
 

MistaTwo

SNK Gaming Division Studio 1
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Oct 24, 2017
2,456
I hate this reasoning. Spider-Man coming up with quick, witty ways to defeat his enemies shows how smart he is.

Completely different context and message.

The web shooter thing is not supposed to just show him as a clever, quick thinking fighter.

It's supposed to show that he has the potential for a genius level intellect, but unlike basically every other Marvel super-brain
he lacks the resources and situation to really put it to use (until the recent Slott run).

The web-shooters are one way to exemplify this trait, because he is creating what is basically a space-age industrial strength material in his spare time during chemistry class.
 

Platy

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Oct 25, 2017
27,709
Brazil
But we are not talking about defining features of a spider, we are talking about the defining features of Spiderman. It's like asking why Wasp doesn't have a stinger on her butt

Sometimes I think the next adaptation should have like gay or trans man spider-man ... because just being nerdy/smart don't just convey the same "shitty high school experience" peter had in the 80's =P