Organic Webshooters > Mechanical

Organic is the only way Spider-Man makes sense in a capitalist society. If Parker was smart enough to develop them scientifically/mechanically, you best bet he wouldn't be wasting his time dicking around in spider pajamas. He'd be patenting these genius inventions and making bank.

Raimi wins. As always.

Spiders don't shoot webs out of their wrists, why would he get that as a power?

Peter Parker should have the power to rip out his hair and throw it in his enemies faces to irritate their mucus membranes, like a tarantula.

Harken Raiser said:

Spiders don't shoot webs out of their wrists, why would he get that as a power?

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And they don't even shoot webs out of their butts. they slowly excrete it and have to pull and manipulate it with their hind legs.

Yasuke said:

That's been covered in the comics before. He tried to patent it, but was told the fluid dissipated too quickly to be useful (which is kinda dumb but lol). He decided to pursue other things.

I never liked the idea of him selling the formula anyways; feels like it'd compromise Spidey's secret identity.

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well obviously he should sell it before becoming the spider-man

Harken Raiser said:

Spiders don't shoot webs out of their wrists, why would he get that as a power?

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nded said:

And they don't even shoot webs out of their butts. they slowly excrete it and have to pull and manipulate it with their hind legs.

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Yup. It really shows the genius of the web shooters, honestly (I mean from a writing perspective). Imagine Spider-Man debuting with no web powers. Doesn't work. Or wrist webs before the web shooters already established the "normal" Spider-Man web power set. It would have been a joke forever. And true spider-like webs, never in a million years would that have worked.

They justify having cool web powers that work nothing like a spider's

Slayven said:

But we just had nearly a decade of stories Spiderman working at a think tank and then creating his own company rivaling Stark Industries.......

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Oh. Well if that's the case, it's fine, and how it should be. I don't read comics. Just going off the popular perception of the character as an underdog who struggles to make rent. Maybe my idea of Spider-Man is outdated.

nded said:

And they don't even shoot webs out of their butts. they slowly excrete it and have to pull and manipulate it with their hind legs.

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I'd take Spider-Man more seriously if he was anatomically accurate.

Opto said:

well obviously he should sell it before becoming the spider-man

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That would probably require him to also invent a time machine.
I think the web-shooters were part of his shtick while he was doing the wrestler/talk show stuff before the whole Uncle Ben shit went down.

UltraMav said:

Oh. Well if that's the case, it's fine, and how it should be. I don't read comics. Just going off the popular perception of the character as an underdog who struggles to make rent. Maybe my idea of Spider-Man is outdated.

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Dan Slott gets a lot of haters out there, but on the whole his run was excellent IMO because he actually tackled a lot of these little issues with the character.

One of the themes during the whole Superior Spider-Man arc is how Doc Ock feels like Peter Parker has completely wasted his potential and actually sets out to correct a lot of those mistakes.

RaySpencer said:

Mechanical shows how smart he is.

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Sirhc said:

The mechanical ones give great opportunities for tension when he runs out.

Organic is kinda nasty and lack options to change it up.

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These accurately summarise my take.

Harken Raiser said:

I'd take Spider-Man more seriously if he was anatomically accurate.

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Anatomically Accurate Spider-Man should get a What If? issue just for the inevitable panels of Peter dropping trou and slowly pulling a thick, sticky rope out of his ass with his second pair of legs while bad guys are paralyzed with fear and disgust.

MistaTwo said:

That would probably require him to also invent a time machine.
I think the web-shooters were part of his shtick while he was doing the wrestler/talk show stuff before the whole Uncle Ben shit went down.

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Well since he knows like, five people minimum with a time machine/powers, why not :)

Organic was always my preference. I like the concept of his ingenuity, but never in practice.

But I absolutely HATE the underarm webbing. Absolutely gross

Wouldn't it be best to have both in a way. Organic in that his body is able to excrete webs but having a mechanical device to be able to control it to varies degrees on his arm. It would for one make webbing personal towards himself but also shows his ingenuity of creating a device to help.

echoshifting said:

You mean like the utility belt with the signal, spider tracers, and all the crazy stuff he came up with when he had infinite resources at Parker Industries?

Let me tell you about the spider-mobile

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Never saw that shit in a movie son it ain't canon

edit : I should clarify I am kidding

Slayven said:

I like that they didn't want to do a copy and past with 2099 so they gave Miguel claws, venom bite, and super vision to replace the spider sense

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I also enjoyed this. It was neat how the legendary Spider-Man inspired the program, but they didn't actually know all the powers, or know how the powers worked, but they still put something together that could function as a super spy or whatever. It's been a while.

nded said:

Anatomically Accurate Spider-Man should get a What If? issue just for the inevitable panels of Peter dropping trou and slowly pulling a thick, sticky rope out of his ass with his second pair of legs while bad guys are paralyzed with fear and disgust.

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Was there an Anatomically Accurate Spider-Man in Spider-Verse? If not, Marvel is leaving money on the table. I also demand a Spider-Man that never quit pro-wrestling, and as a result all his villains also became wrestlers.

Harken Raiser said:

Was there an Anatomically Accurate Spider-Man in Spider-Verse? If not, Marvel is leaving money on the table. I also demand a Spider-Man that never quit pro-wrestling, and as a result all his villains also became wrestlers.

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I want this.

ZeroX said:

That's a pretty stupid panel, it would absolutely have market value. Also if he's that smart and can seemingly invent super products, he could make something else for money.

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He eventually sells the formula in the future. They use it in cars as a safer alternative to air bags.

Jon Carter said:

Not sure I understand your question. It's a substance naturally produced by his body just like in an actual spider. It's an easy concept for the audience to accept. Mechanical web shooters require such a giant leap in logic.

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Mixed in the body, or mixed outside of the body... The web doesn't come from no where. If using a mechanical web spinner requires a tank in your mind, then it should require just as much space inside his body. Unless you're saying it doesn't matter because it's a comic... which then works both ways.

Mechanical always. Organic is disgusting.

THErest said:

I want this.

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It writes itself! Norman Osborn is the Vince McMahon-like evil promoter, Mysterio is a disgruntled pyro technician, the Sinister Six are an NWO-style heel stable, etc.

I prefer organic myself. Removes a major weakness that is always exploited.



"OH NO GUYS SPIDERMAN RAN OUT OF WEB AT THE WORST MOMENT! *gasp*"

Harken Raiser said:

It writes itself! Norman Osborn is the Vince McMahon-like evil promoter, Mysterio is a disgruntled pyro technician, the Sinister Six are an NWO-style heel stable, etc.

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Considering the ideas Sony seems to be green-lighting for their Spider-Verse or whatever at the moment, this would not only be awesome but probably feasible as well!

The comic geek in me prefer mechanical, but the kid in me like the organic one much better.

Clydefrog said:

I agree, OP

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I always wondered how they are able to pack all that shit in their tiny ass bodies

Organic always made more sense to me. I'm sure there are other ways to show how smart he is if that's your sole justification for mechanical.

Let me get fire powers, but still need a lighter to use them. Cause that makes sense.

Coyote Starrk said:

I prefer organic myself. Removes a major weakness that is always exploited.



"OH NO GUYS SPIDERMAN RAN OUT OF WEB AT THE WORST MOMENT! *gasp*"

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No worse than any contrived reason why a super hero suddenly loses their powers. I mean, kryptonite seems more common than water in Super Man continuums.

Organic puts more meaning into the spider bite, so I like it more.

Also, I don't care if he doesn't shoot webs from his ass. It's fiction, the powers can manifest where they want to. He could even web-shoot out of his nose and it'd both have more meaning and be an anime reference.

KojiKnight said:

Mixed in the body, or mixed outside of the body... The web doesn't come from no where. If using a mechanical web spinner requires a tank in your mind, then it should require just as much space inside his body. Unless you're saying it doesn't matter because it's a comic... which then works both ways.

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Are you saying Peter is capable of doing everything that the human body does on its own? The way Peter is supposed to be able to take liquid he creates and shove a large amount of it in a small cartridge doesn't make any sense. That limitation isn't something that applies to what goes on inside our bodies. Again, spiders. They couldn't make web liquid, create tiny cartridges, make it all fit and create web shooters, but their body does that process on its own. They don't need a giant tank because their body produces it as needed.

Shin Bobo Dakes said:

Organic always made more sense to me. I'm sure there are other ways to show how smart he is if that's your sole justification for mechanical.

Let me get fire powers, but still need a lighter to use them. Cause that makes sense.

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Always organic. Why else do you think Raimi's films are far better than the last three Spider-Man popcorn flicks?

Jon Carter said:

Are you saying Peter is capable of doing everything that the human body does on its own? The way Peter is supposed to be able to take liquid he creates and shove a large amount of it in a small cartridge doesn't make any sense. That limitation isn't something that applies to what goes on inside our bodies. Again, spiders. They couldn't make web liquid, create tiny cartridges, make it all fit and create web shooters, but their body does that process on its own. They don't need a giant tank because their body produces it as needed.

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Then why would he need it for mechanical needs? An extremely efficient machine and mechanism would be no different than the biological counter part which is supposed to be the whole point.

Slayven said:

But we are not talking about defining features of a spider, we are talking about the defining features of Spiderman. It's like asking why Wasp doesn't have a stinger on her butt

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Wasp wasn't genetically altered though. She uses tech. Weren't her wings a addition after the fact? Now if she was stung and altered by a genetically altered wasp I wouldn't' be against her growing a stinger from her arms or hands so that she can stab people.

Cypher said:

Always organic. Why else do you think Raimi's films are far better than the last three Spider-Man popcorn flicks?

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I mean... Spiderman 3 exists, so that immediately puts your whole theory off.

Shin Bobo Dakes said:

Let me get fire powers, but still need a lighter to use them. Cause that makes sense.

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Slayven said:

Ummm

Pyro can control flames, just not generate them. Fun Facts about Pyro he can be burned by flames that are not under his control, he is Australian, and use to write gothic romance novels for a living.

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"Does whatever a Spider can". Produce webs organically.

Sirhc said:

The mechanical ones give great opportunities for tension when he runs out.

Organic is kinda nasty and lack options to change it up.

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You mean contrived...

I thought this was a new kind of keyboard when you compared it to "mechanical".

I'll find my way out.

Why doesn't Spider-Man have venom or the ability to inject digestive enzymes into his enemies to liquefy them.

Shin Bobo Dakes said:

"Does whatever a Spider can". Produce webs organically.

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He also injects digestive enzymes into his cocooned prey and then sucks out their liquefied innards.

Edit: Beaten to digestive enzymes^

KojiKnight said:

Then why would he need it for mechanical needs? An extremely efficient machine and mechanism would be no different than the biological counter part which is supposed to be the whole point.

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See this video posted earlier in this thread:


"How a spider no bigger than a thumb nail can produce so much silk so quickly has baffled scientists."

It works the same way for Spider-Man with organic shooters.

The idea that Peter could reproduce this feat of nature mechanically is just laughable and a million times harder to accept.

BKatastrophe said:

A) I know we've had this thread before

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Fairly recently and just as wrong: https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-does-spider-man-canonically-lack-natural-web-shooters.24197/

cursed thread

I favored mechanical for most of my life but every time they try to play up pete being a super scientist or low rent tony stark it becomes story poison. I'd like it if they made him just very smart but not like 6th smartest guy on the planet smart, and the web shooters are way way too super genius level to exist and not have him be a super scientist for inventing it.

I like the hybrid idea. Make him secrete web fluid naturally as part of his powers but like a normal spider it doesn't launch out like a bullet, so he invents something that shows he is a smarty nerd but is entirely believable for high school level knowledge and budget, what is more or less a wrist mounted squirt gun. So he can secrete fluid into a vacuum sealed chamber that keeps the fluid liquid and then squirt it out at distant surfaces to form a web line, with him eventually adding more types of nozzles and more efficient high pressure nozzles for different types of web shots and increased range.

You could bring back the classic broken web shooter gimmick as him just not being able to produce webs if he hasn't eaten enough recently, so instead of needing web cartridges he has like a couple protein bars or whatever. And as a way to reinforce the friendly neighborhood and constantly broke aspects of the character, he drops by like every eatery and corner store a ton while on patrol to metabolize new web fluid.