In the UK at least. Think first week sales were less than 2,000. From what others posted in that thread it didn't seem to be doing well digitally in other regions either. I guess it could be selling well physically, but I doubt it
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Fox n Forests dev:“Switch is our strongest platform to date”3:1 sales ratio with PC and 4:1 with PS4
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Nobody knows any sales numbers for Wolfenstein 2 on th Switch so far. Either Braaier has information he's not sharing or he's pulling stuff out of thin air.
EDIT:
Oh, please, not another "FIFA on Switch bombed in the UK" narrative again...
So indie successes are doing amazing on Switch (Hollow Knight) & unknown indies are doing better on Switch (Fox n Forests). Success all around!
From the pal sales thread:
Zhugeex has access to sales numbers. I'm not making shit up. Cmon
Yeah, if you're a fan of low & mid-tier productions, increased visibility and sales on Switch is a success no matter what platform you're cheering for.
Keep buying those indies, folks.
I don't want to derail the thread further, so I'll just say any sort of declarations when the game hasn't been out a week seems premature to me.
If it's on Switch, that's where I'm buying it. Hybrid is so convenient. However, it's clear only certain smaller indie titles are selling best in switch. I don't take this as a sign that AAA games should be ported to switch day and date with consoles/PC as others seem to. Fifa is the only AAA game I can think of that came to Switch at the same time as PS4/XBO and Switch was in last place by far IIRC. But yes Switch is the best indie platform that much is established now I think.
I suppose that explains the Kickstarter that earned €107,875 before Switch was even announced
I'm from the future and it looks like it did over 1K on PC just under 4k on N/S and about 800 or so on PS4
1) digital sales are a beast on switch, portability is a game changer
2) if a current gen game is coming to switch, it needs to be day and date with the other versions, no one is going to pay full price for an older game that's available for way less on other platforms.
2) if a current gen game is coming to switch, it needs to be day and date with the other versions, no one is going to pay full price for an older game that's available for way less on other platforms.
According to the Valve leak thread, it sold 1482 copies so around 4400 on Switch give or take.
https://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/games_achievements_players_2018-07-01.csv
https://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/games_achievements_players_2018-07-01.csv
Good thing we have like 20 people on the first page alone just dropping by to tell us they've never heard of this game. Fuck these guys, sharing news about their game, thinking we should care. That'll knock 'em back down a notch or two.
The Valve leak wasn't that accurate for our latest game so I'd take those numbers with a grain of salt.
It probably is the case, but I already expected the scenario you describe to have died down already. There are supposedly around 1000 games for the Switch on the eshop at the moment, about 30 of that number are 1st Party and another 75-100 of that 1000 are from established 3rd party pubs.... let say I'm under estimating, I still think a little more than half the library are smaller indie games like this Fox and Forest game and the "Switch version outselling other versions" story is still happening almost a year and a half into the Switch's life.
How much longer will this window last?
New Releases is the default page of the eShop, so it will probably last well into the future. As long as new indies are the first thing everyone sees when they load the shop, there should be a decent chance for everything to catch eyes. At least for users who regularly check the eShop, anyway.
While there are fanboys attempting to downplay successes for sure, it's also part of the clockwork that any time in threads like this, there are other fanboys quickly labeling anyone pointing out the actual missing sales numbers as attempting to downplay it.
Whether you like it or not, the actual sales numbers are relevant and people discuss sales numbers all the time here. This doesn't mean that the platform percentages are irrelevant and it certainly isn't any "fuck them" towards the devs.
Games generally sell the bulk of their sales within the first few days.
There are of course exceptions and the popularity of the GaaS model has changed the tides, but if a game bombs, it's pretty unlikely it'll suddenly start selling well or even decently.
Was it off by factors of 2, 3, 4, 8...?
A lot of industry figures are saying that's the only way they can be off.
Well....I have heard about this game. I don't know if it's because I frequent the monthly eShop threads here, or if it was featured in a Nindie Showcase or something.
The lack of sales numbers doesn't invalidate the claim. Obviously having numbers is the best case scenario but it doesn't happen very often. Having data on what platforms sold better than others is still valuable, unless you're going to argue it isn't?
I read a positive review in a German print magazine but never heard of the game anywhere else.
still amazing to a certain degree how Switch became a hot bed for Indies to thrive when last gen most indies claimed Nintendo was the most cumbersome platform holder to work with
Really seems like a charming game, but...
Does anybody know why the heck I can't find this game on PS store Br on Ps4?
Does anybody know why the heck I can't find this game on PS store Br on Ps4?
It's pretty incredible seeing a whole bunch of Indie developers succeeding while multi billion dollar companies with hundreds or thousands of staff and 40 years experience in the industry just continually misjudge, ignore or fail to deliver anything on this platform.
But people keep telling me that these third party publishers are run by highly intelligent businesspeople who wouldn't let their personal feelings and antagonism color their decisions!
Who would have thought that PC, PS4 and Xbox gamers were never fans of snes games!
The length people will go to so they can downplay switch success never disappoints me.
Unlike the other platforms, you get news about new games all the time on Switch. It's extremely well implemented. It's completely optional, but I bet a lot of people click on the news button due to the blinking green light.
Yeah I thought that Valve list was really strange.
The lowest purchase counts at the bottom are only in the teens.
Meanwhile the super-hardcore indie hit RimWorld has sold over a million copies and is nowhere to be seen on that list at all.
Instead of complaining about the title or being an asshole asking devs for numbers and doubting their words I looked the game up and this actually looks cool:
I'll be honest, I hadn't heard of this game until just a few minutes ago. That said, now that I have heard of it, I'll say that it looks very nice. It's very reminiscent of early 90s 16-bit platform games. I hope it plays as well as it looks.
never even heard of the game until this post, trotted off to Xbox store to take a look and the graphics would stop me buying into it.
makes me wonder, this would look much better on a handheld and thus more appealing?
makes me wonder, this would look much better on a handheld and thus more appealing?
I originally saw it make lasting until 2020 at most but from the looks of it, the next gen PS and Xbox should be out around that time which would increase the difference between what the hardware can run which would mean that AAA and maybe even AA titles after 2020 won't be making their way to N/S since the hardware won't be able to run the game. Some of those games will probably be downgraded heavily and in general the N/S version would be the version that sells the least.
I guess that would mean that there would be much more of a space for indies (even after the market becomes more saturated), seeing how Nintendo does not release a lot of first party titles every year and Japanese companies that will focus on the N/S in the future will not be releasing a game that often seeing how those games still need to be localized and that takes months.
So we will see more and more indies and a lot of them will not sell that well but there likely will still be some that sell better than what they do on other consoles and on PC. There are some indies that I think will still overall sell better on PC but that has a lot to do with genre and things like Early Access.
Games like Fox n Forest I think will still get sales on N/S in the future but I don't think the sales will be that high, I know that there are some games that easily sold over 100k+ on N/S but I feel that games like Fox n Forest will not sell anywhere near that. If you look at some of the best selling indy games on PC those are likely still going to be among some of the best sellers on N/S. I mean look at Hollow Knight it sold over 1 million on PC and has already done 250k+ in less than a month on N/S? Based off some Steam Spy data I guess we can already figure out what indies would sell over 1 million on N/S.
Probably because the Valve leaks wasn't sales, it was users.
That Steam list is based on achievements, not sales. RimWorld doesn't have achievements so that's why it's not on there. So are Ubisoft games because they use Uplay achievements instead so they're not on the Steam list.
Very few indie games even AAA ones have Minecraft numbers so I don't even know why that is even used as an example here.
I saw it described as action-adventure platformer with light MV elements. I'm not sure if coming off of Hollow Knight makes me want MetroidVania elements more or less. I think less.
If you read my post, it literally said that pointing out the missing sales numbers doesn't mean the platform percentages are irrelevant. It is obviously valuable info telling about the demographics and anyone completely dismissing it is silly.
However, the actual sales numbers missing means that posts like this for example...
...are really silly when in the context of a thread like this.
It was, XBLA was huge for indies and then XBLIG opened things up even more for hobbyists. Sony didn't really take the lead until Vita/PS4, and now Nintendo's stolen the crown with Switch.