Was this back when his daughter was dying or something like that? I've seen so many videos of him and he definitely seems to shift in posture, appearance and attitude quite a bit over the years.
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Jordan Peterson - The "Intellectual" We Deserve
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Was this back when his daughter was dying or something like that? I've seen so many videos of him and he definitely seems to shift in posture, appearance and attitude quite a bit over the years.
cringe
also, could he be pandering any harder??? why an american flag, he's canadian, lol
Yes of course... it's definitely not his secret alt right moon base.
I think that's where JP is seriously lacking. I get the focus on the individual. However, it shows historical ignorance. Many groups had to band and protest to get stuff done--the bloody Labor Movement, the French Revolution, American Revolution (debatable since this was waged by rich people on richer people), The Civil Right Movement.
Moreover, this will continue since power is so corrupting.
I do like his motivational type stuff, but we he wades in the historical waters, he's arguments are rather flawed. He should just stick with the motivational stuff and ignore social justice because he seems out of his element.
He'd be no one if he stuck to the motivational stuff. He's essentially everybody's dad with a shitter voice. There are countless motivational speakers who blow him out of the water.
He's chosen a path where he can be a success: validating pale and bitter boys.
Yes of course. He was more cautious with his words in the classroom. He was more aware of the context and people surrounding him. He had some slips like saying that other Social Sciences were bullshit but didn't elaborate the anti-Marxism crap that he is advocating. Of course if you pay attention you could see the biased of him regarding the authors he chose to dictate the class, but beyond that it was mild his rhetoric. And he was shy-er but he constantly throw callbacks to his depression and anxiety. With his sons, specially the boy he always make him an example in multiple classes when we were studying psychological development. He was more cautious with his daughter and more private. He was gloomy, something aloof and of course cranky. But not ANGRY WHITE MAN FULL ALT RIGHT MODE.
Funny you ask that because now he is full speech mode with his daughter illness. We knew she has artritis and he and his family were in a constant struggle with this issue, being this issue a cause for his depression. But know he is more open about it, telling the story of her, how she survive because changes of her habits, etc. And he is more open about his depression, bad temper and anxiety. He is saying now that he was struggling with depression since 13 years old, with all his psychosomatic afflictions due to the stress and anxiety, etc. But now that he is friends with Joe Rogan and the new Alt Right, a friend of mine send me a clip of his appearance in Joe's Podcast telling how his life change because he only eat meat, talking about his daughter blog, telling that he and his daughter has this only meat diet that has cure all his and her symptoms, etc. but he is not recommending this diet, but people are following him and his daughter footsteps. (Just like Freud, oh the Irony -this part is mine). He is less a psychologist now and more a coach or a motivational speaker so he is more cheerful and and angry less depress and gloom.
Haha
Why is he posing with a katana and why is he putting his fingers on the blade (a no-no) like some ignorant weeb?
(Don't answer that. It's a rhetorical question.)
Urgh. Does his daughter know her dad spills out the most private and sensitive personal information about her to his classes? I assume she's OK with this, but it still rubs me the wrong way.
Lol he doesn't try to be precise with his speech like at all... he just tells everyone else to
Yes. She does. And now it seems that she has her own acolytes because of her father's speech about her struggle.
The only way this could be better is if the last past said "And now that the world is on fire and lobsters are at the gate..."
What do you want? Should we all fawn over his weak, fortune cookie platitudes? The trouble is, his bargain bin self help is of zero value to anyone who has developed normally since toddlerhood. If I were a broken mess of a person who had been failed at every step by every parent and teacher I had ever known, then maybe I wouldn't see Peterson as the useless turd he is. But I'm not and I haven't, so I do.
Good for you. What does his huge following tell you about the state of the world then?
That people are as susceptible to hucksters in 2018 AD as they were in 2018 BC. Ultimately, he's a fad for chuds and he'll fade eventually. The actual problem is how toxic his uninformed personal views are at this pivotal moment in history, when there's been a resurgence of authoritarian conservatism, and he's making it seem "cool".
He knows a lot of personality theory dude. His way of explaining might be a little dense but the guy knows. His problem he thinks he knows all about psychology because of his ego and psychology is a vast field. He is more a jungian psychoanalist in his clinical approach mixing some CBT in his practice.
And no he doesn't know a jack shit of philosophy because his narrow point of view and biased opinion. He is so fucking biased in evwrything that he didn't work with Campbell's monomyth theory one single time when his "own" theory of the "Hero" is a mirror if Campbell's work. Till this day I wonder why he didn't did that in his class. My guess? Campbell's work is better than his. Less messier more classy and wide.
Hugo and Jake now have the next chapter up of their chapter by chapter reading of Jordan Peterson's 12 rules of life. These are all pretty good watches.
So here's another fun one:
Peterson links an interpretation of a study that claims SCIENTIFICALLY that diversity is bad. The problem here is two fold: 1) The author of the study itself doesn't agree with the conclusions that a lot of people (like Peterson and the guy he linked it to) seem to have derived from it. And 2) the guy that Peterson linked to, is apparently sort of kind of a White Nationalist.
Why does this sort of thing keep happening? :(
Peterson links an interpretation of a study that claims SCIENTIFICALLY that diversity is bad. The problem here is two fold: 1) The author of the study itself doesn't agree with the conclusions that a lot of people (like Peterson and the guy he linked it to) seem to have derived from it. And 2) the guy that Peterson linked to, is apparently sort of kind of a White Nationalist.
Why does this sort of thing keep happening? :(
Good question. It's truly one of the most baffling mysteries of our time. Sort of like how no one knows why neo-Confederates keep showing up at Rand Paul's "states rights" rallies.
Nah. JP has complained about this stuff before when he was talking about his youtube viewerbase breakdown.
i don't think you actually believe this, and it's so obviously ridiculous that i'm surprised you managed to even make the claim
he knows full well about the history of collective actions i'm sure, he just insists on his individualistic bullshit because he makes a lot of money off of grifting right wingers and that's what they want to hear
Haven't you read the article from his former mentor? He's in this to save the world.
More specifically, he's out to save the world because he and his wife literally had bad dreams for a couple of nights.
Looking forward to checking this out because I have a friend who thinks Peterson has some interesting things to say. Told him I think he's a fraud and a hypocrite who says he's precise with language and ideas when he's really not.
I don't hate all of Peterson's ideas. I watched a 12 minute lecture vid from a few years ago about success in marriage and being kind to your partner that was basically about positive reinforcement which was logical and practical, but I've seen enough of his other more recent stuff to know that he's an incoherent mess as a clear thinker.
Wait a second, Peterson thinks the patriarchy is some made up concept, but he states that all hierarchies are male. LOL
I don't normally link to ground zero of JP fandom, but the thread referenced above is pro-click:
https://np.reddit.com/r/JordanPeter..._started_a_jordan_peterson_meetup_and_now_im/
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That's actually really sad to read. You can really see how Peterson and other Conservative pundits easily rope in people with serious problems who need some serious help. This person's clearly suffering from a lot of social anxiety and has clear questions about things that they feel Peterson's given an easy answer to.
I'm fed up of vulnerable people being fed garbage and being weaponised.
I'm fed up of vulnerable people being fed garbage and being weaponised.
He says some questionable things at times but there is no denying his passion and empathy towards people in emotional pain. People too often see one or two things they disagree with then denounce the entire person and thats ignorance as much as anything else. This thread reminds me of the GAF echo chamber, its a bit offkey in my opinion.
Godwin's law and all, but I'm pretty sure a German said that about a guy named Adolf when he was organizing people at the local beer hall.
Except when you take a close look at his philosophy it becomes obvious that he cares only about a very specific subset of people in emotional pain, and sees no issue in inflicting even worse pain and suffering on everyone else if it helps that one specific group.
If Peterson was the least bit interested in the outcome of any of his poor little lost boy accolytes, he would tell them to look elsewhere for help, and not persist in trying to mold them into the sad, bitter loser he sees in the mirror. None of the garbage he espouses is ever going to improve these boy's lives without civilisation turning full Gilead and providing them with all the companionship they're incapable of earning in a normal, healthy society.
Calling this place an echo chamber means you shouldn't be taken seriously.
Also it's not just "one or two things" people disagree with Peterson about.
And he doesn't have empathy for helping people in emotional pain or he else he wouldn't be barely skirting the line on professional ethics. He has a hero complex.
I think the guy wanting to shut it down and..hilariously enough, censor speech, is very much a Peterson mark. It's almost like the perfect Peterson fan is having an ideal Peterson experience, and one Jordan deserves much more than getting exposed by a Comedy Central segment.
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