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Oct 25, 2017
5,611
So I bought SFV around launch. And while I enjoyed the core fighting, I really didn't like everything else surrounding the game. The small roster, and the lack of content kinda of killed it for me so I sold it. I knew an updated version would come out eventually so I told myself I'd get that when it did. And that's exactly what happened. Picked up the AE and it's not bad
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Presentation is a lot better and the roster size is actually decent now. I've been having a lot fun with it recently.

However I still have some issues.

-The game outside is slow. I don't mean the gameplay, but everything else. I feel like I'm sitting around waiting far too much. Starting up the game takes way too long, and there's just way too much shit thrown at you between matches. When playing online I just want to hurry up and start the next fight. I don't need a million different screens popping up. It may not seem like a lot of time if we're talking a single match but it adds up quickly.

-Also why the hell are colors still locked behind survival mode? And colors are still costume dependent so you have to do that shit all over for each costume.

-When It comes to the actual gameplay I have 1 complaint and that's that this game has too many shortcuts, I'm constantly trigger supers/specials when doing completely different motions.

-Matchmaking is wierd. I'm regularly placed against people who are either too good, or too bad. Very rarely do I get someone rank appropriate.
 

FluxWaveZ

Persona Central
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
10,890
-Matchmaking is wierd. I'm regularly placed against people who are either too good, or too bad. Very rarely do I get someone rank appropriate.
What rank are you? Because, honestly, SFV must be one of the best fighting games when it comes to online matchmaking based on skill level. However, in Rookie and lower Bronze, things get nebulous because of smurf accounts and that kinda stuff.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,240
Funny enough, Survival Mode is actually pretty decent now with the update. Probably the best single player mode in the game.
 

APZonerunner

Features Editor at VG247.com
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
1,731
England
It's a good game now. Regarding speed, it's pretty bloody quick on PC in terms of loading etc. Like, literally, it's about two seconds for me to go from a match back to training mode, then while in training it searches for a new match. PS4 load times are still pretty slow comparatively though, but still improved over vanilla. It's worth keeping in mind you can skip the VS screen animation by hammering start, which improves time-to-match quite a bit as well.

RE colors - it's just they want you to play, and spend fight money. You can get colors through survival, but you can also buy them from the store with FM (not real cash), and you can also get colors from the loot box/gacha purchases, which also gives you consumable items to use to make survival easier. This stuff is all weird as it feels like something they'd use to squeeze money out of people, but since you can't spend real cash it's really just encouraging you to play more, complete the FM missions, etc.
 

Easy Rider

Member
Nov 2, 2017
926
Started playing recently and have to agree it takes ages from the PS4 menu to an actual online fight.
 

dlauv

Prophet of Truth - One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,513
Punishing shit is fucking annoying online tho. And PC vs. PS4 matches like to gimp out some rounds.

Mayor Cody saved the game.

Yeah, the only character I really enjoy playing as. Abigail was ok tho.

But the game really becomes addicting once you find a character you truly like playing as.
 

JusDoIt

â–˛ Legend â–˛
Member
Oct 25, 2017
34,792
South Central Los Angeles
Big smurfing problem at that level too, I guess.

I highly doubt it. Real smurf accounts tend to level up to Diamond pretty quick. Fighting in the lower ranks is difficult not because there are smurfs. Fighting in the lower ranks is tough because opponents are way more unpredictable, making it very difficult to approach them strategically. You have to play a patient, reactive game in the lower ranks, anti-airing and punishing YOLO moves. This is hard to do in SFV because the game rewards you for taking big risks.
 

Jamrock User

Member
Jan 24, 2018
3,163
The netcode is so shit like seriously.

The teleporting player garbage ruins any fun you can have online.
 

Village

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,809
I highly doubt it. Real smurf accounts tend to level up to Diamond pretty quick. Fighting in the lower ranks is difficult not because there are smurfs. Fighting in the lower ranks is tough because opponents are way more unpredictable, making it very difficult to approach them strategically. You have to play a patient, reactive game in the lower ranks, anti-airing and punishing YOLO moves. This is hard to do in SFV because the game rewards you for taking big risks.

Nah, there's a lot of smurffs

A lot of folks streaming or doing challenges and what if you

Especially when new characters come out and the account is literally new and named after the character, I don't think anyone is saying its mostly smurffs. But I think the notion that your account levels up collectively instead of character by character lends itself to people wanting to start new accounts to learn new guys or to fuck around, instead of just loosing points. Like if all characters leveled by themselves, you would solve a lot of this problem. I just think folks wanna learn in ranked but don't wanna loose points to do it
 
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CharlesAznable
Oct 25, 2017
5,611
Forgot to mention my biggest issue with the game. Too many damn Ryu's online. It's 2018 and people still only pick Ryu? It's not even that I have trouble against them, it just gets boring playing Ryu after Ryu. No lie 3/4s of my matches are against Ryu's. I know it's probably because of my rank, but shit...
 

dlauv

Prophet of Truth - One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,513
Better than SF4 Ryu. I love SF4 except for fighting online shotos. Their shoryukens are abysmal and Ryu can punish trades. :(
 

Village

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,809
Forgot to mention my biggest issue with the game. Too many damn Ryu's online. It's 2018 and people still only pick Ryu? It's not even that I have trouble against them, it just gets boring playing Ryu after Ryu. No lie 3/4s of my matches are against Ryu's. I know it's probably because of my rank, but shit...

Hey man
I feel you.

And if it was ryu in a cool costume it would be whatever. Its just normal ass normal costume ryu

That shit is like picking mario in mario kart
 
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CharlesAznable
Oct 25, 2017
5,611
The netcode is so shit like seriously.

The teleporting player garbage ruins any fun you can have online.

Yeah Netcode isn't that great. I know I have great connection, but even with setting matchmaking to 4 bars, I still get some spotty matches.

Shortcuts been a thing since sf4 but it's more lenient in sfv. Blame it on folks who struggle to do the simplest of motions.

I'm aware but they definitely weren't this bad in 4.
 

Rice Eater

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,816
Smurfing is a problem in Casual. Some guys won't play ranked and stay in Bronze/Silver so that they can maintain a 90+ win percentage. I remember seeing a post one time at SRK exposing a bunch of these guys. I reposted it here because I was so baffled by it. It's not like these dudes have just 50 matches, they've played thousands of matches in Casual. Some even had over 10,000 lol.

Forgot to mention my biggest issue with the game. Too many damn Ryu's online. It's 2018 and people still only pick Ryu? It's not even that I have trouble against them, it just gets boring playing Ryu after Ryu. No lie 3/4s of my matches are against Ryu's. I know it's probably because of my rank, but shit...

Ryu is common in the lower ranks because he's always been the most popular character and he's easier to play than most. If you start climbing the ranks though you'll hardly ever run into Ryu. I'm Diamond and I rarely face him nowadays. But if you like Cammy, Urien, and Ibuki then they'll be here waiting for you.
 

leder

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,111
Forgot to mention my biggest issue with the game. Too many damn Ryu's online. It's 2018 and people still only pick Ryu? It's not even that I have trouble against them, it just gets boring playing Ryu after Ryu. No lie 3/4s of my matches are against Ryu's. I know it's probably because of my rank, but shit...

Ryu, Akuma and Ken are the vast majority of my fights online. So annoying.
 

selo

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,108
I don't think I'll ever come around to this game, it has many things I don't like :(. Tons of 50/50's, AA jabs, throw loops, inconsistency in character modelling/animations, 'simplified' mechanics for newcomers (removing moves from the characters and assigning them to vskill/trigger), most characters only have one 'right way' to play and so on.

At launch, I had high hopes for this game, since it kind of followed the same model as Killer Instinct on Xbox (and that one improved a ton over time), I believed that this would eventually get there, but I played through Season 1 and gave up around when abigail came out since I didn't see any substancial changes and I wasn't really enjoying playing the game. During this time though, I did open myself to try out other fighting games, which is something I'm thankful to SFV for, enjoyed T7 and I fell in love with KOF14 (my main fg for now).
 

jett

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,663
I think you can spend your hard-earned fight money on colors in the in-game store.
 

Neoxon

Spotlighting Black Excellence - Diversity Analyst
Member
Oct 25, 2017
85,413
Houston, TX
I don't think I'll ever come around to this game, it has many things I don't like :(. Tons of 50/50's, AA jabs, throw loops, inconsistency in character modelling/animations, 'simplified' mechanics for newcomers (removing moves from the characters and assigning them to vskill/trigger), most characters only have one 'right way' to play and so on.

At launch, I had high hopes for this game, since it kind of followed the same model as Killer Instinct on Xbox (and that one improved a ton over time), I believed that this would eventually get there, but I played through Season 1 and gave up around when abigail came out since I didn't see any substancial changes and I wasn't really enjoying playing the game. During this time though, I did open myself to try out other fighting games, which is something I'm thankful to SFV for, enjoyed T7 and I fell in love with KOF14 (my main fg for now).
Weren't most of the throw loops nerfed in Season 3?
 
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CharlesAznable
Oct 25, 2017
5,611
Smurfing is a problem in Casual. Some guys won't play ranked and stay in Bronze/Silver so that they can maintain a 90+ win percentage. I remember seeing a post one time at SRK exposing a bunch of these guys. I reposted it here because I was so baffled by it. It's not like these dudes have just 50 matches, they've played thousands of matches in Casual. Some even had over 10,000 lol.



Ryu is common in the lower ranks because he's always been the most popular character and he's easier to play than most. If you start climbing the ranks though you'll hardly ever run into Ryu. I'm Diamond and I rarely face him nowadays. But if you like Cammy, Urien, and Ibuki then they'll be here waiting for you.

Yeah I can't play casual. I just get destroyed lol.

I think you can spend your hard-earned fight money on colors in the in-game store.

I might have to recheck but for the base roster I'm pretty sure you can't for a single character. You have to buy the batch one which costs a fuck ton of FM.
 

vixlar

Member
Dec 5, 2017
400
Silver here, some thoughts:

-Really, I don't see many Ryus. And is not that difficult to fight against them. Actually, I'm afraid from people who use characters that are not popular.

-The new Survival is cool. For me, the best changes are that battles are now random and that you can carry the red bar... but I think it would be more logical that you get red bar at the beginning of the round depends on how much health you have.

-The online code is good. Not the best, but I have too few problems with it.

-As for waiting for online matches, well, my routine is to play arcade or survival while I let the game find a match for me. When I finish the single player game, I turn the pc off. Sometimes I last 2 hours because how many online matches I get... even sometimes I turn the option off because I got other thing to do.

-In PC the game loads notably faster than PS4. My problem is that I have some hiccups, especially on Vega's stage.

-I find cool playing on PC, I use my old Tekken 6 wireless stick to play against my friend, who use a PS4 hori arcade mini.

-I don't get tired of learning new stuff from this game. I watch tournaments and try to apply some moves from there. (Except Sako's Menat, I don't know how he does that)

-I bought Season 1 with real money, but Season 2 and three I've been buying some characters with real money and some with FM. For my play time, I find it fair.

In general, I'm happy with this game. Street Fighter 5 and Overwatch are the only games I constantly play now.