Their 3ds successor will surely save them from all the pancake investors
Might be time to announce that and a Switch mini now
Their 3ds successor will surely save them from all the pancake investors
If Nintendo went up onto an E3 stage and presented that, people would chastise them.Folder support, save backups, etc would definitely have been good things to announce if they are actually coming
I would not bet on that. GameFreak and The Pokemon Company kind of just do their own thing unrelated to Nintendo's core wishes. You really think that Nintendo did not beg them to make a mainline title on GameCube or Wii U when it was clear how poorly those were going?I think Pokemon making the move to put their core games on Switch says it all when it comes to a possible new handheld, unless (like others have already said) it's just a smaller Switch without docking/joycon capabilities or something.
That's true, because these features are long overdue.If Nintendo went up onto an E3 stage and presented that, people would chastise them.
My best attempts at what? I don't understand this groupthink that I'm against Nintendo. Again they are my favorite of the big 3. There's a reason I waited all night in line to get a switch...
I never disputed that.Smash Bros and Ridley were the two most tweeted things on Twitter. Ridley...If that doesn't spell something I don't know what does.
Folder support, save backups, etc would definitely have been good things to announce if they are actually coming
This is true. As much as I love the Metroid franchise, it's humorous to see people imply in here that THAT of all things would've prevented this lol...Really if Nintendo did a Nintendo Direct tomorrow that consisted of them smashing a Switch on the ground, announced all of their Switch games they had in the pipeline and said they were cancelled and then announced 20 games coming to mobile their stock would skyrocket because all they really care about it mobile.
So I'm not sure why people are trying to look for a deeper meaning for this shit. They don't care about Metroid, Bayonetta, Animal Crossing, Mario Maker, F Zero, or any of that stuff. If Nintendo had something to say on Mario Kart Tour I guarantee nothing would've happened and we wouldn't be talking about this.
Not at all. Again why do you all think I am so inherently negative? This only comes from other Nintendo fans too.If they announced that in the direct, you would have been the first person to scream at them for wasting direct time talking about it.
My best attempts at what? I don't understand this groupthink that I'm against Nintendo. Again they are my favorite of the big 3. There's a reason I waited all night in line to get a switch...
Not at all. Again why do you all think I am so inherently negative? This only comes from other Nintendo fans too.
Really if Nintendo did a Nintendo Direct tomorrow that consisted of them smashing a Switch on the ground, announced all of their Switch games they had in the pipeline and said they were cancelled and then announced 20 games coming to mobile their stock would skyrocket because all they really care about it mobile.
So I'm not sure why people are trying to look for a deeper meaning for this shit. They don't care about Metroid, Bayonetta, Animal Crossing, Mario Maker, F Zero, or any of that stuff. If Nintendo had something to say on Mario Kart Tour I guarantee nothing would've happened and we wouldn't be talking about this.
It's probably because the only thing you ever do is complain about Nintendo, and half the time you're really reaching.My best attempts at what? I don't understand this groupthink that I'm against Nintendo. Again they are my favorite of the big 3. There's a reason I waited all night in line to get a switch...
That's exactly what he's doing. He dismissed Nintendo's success with E3 2016 and 2017 with it. Both E3s the consensus is that they nailed, but apparently not.Best attempts at downplaying any and all success to try to find a way for Nintendo to be failing so you can feel better because this year doesn't have the games you want.
1. NES Classic and SNES Classic are selling like gangbusters, so let's do absolutely nothing to bring our famous Virtual Console service to Switch and instead release a selection of NES games with unnecessary online features that nobody asked for
2. Some of our most anticipated games aren't going to make a 2018 date, so let's not bother to show a single frame of footage, even though at least one of those highly-anticipated games (MP4) is being developed by a new, untested studio and was announced a year ago
3. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is our biggest draw this year. Let's devote two-thirds of our showing to incredibly minor details about specific gameplay elements clearly intended to appeal to a competitive audience during what is supposed to be a casual E3 presentation
4. Animal Crossing is one of our biggest casual draws to Nintendo platforms. Let's just flip the bird to anyone asking why this popular series has been MIA for six years and counting
5. We've been offering free online services for the last fourteen years. Let's start charging people money for our famously terrible service while offering absolutely no value proposition other than "Because we know you Smash-loving suckers will pay for it"
6. Zelda and Mario Odyssey were our two big draws in 2017. Let's go total radio silence on any plans for future games, DLC, or continued support
This is all fine and good, but Nintendo is a publicly-owned corporation. If the stock prices are dropping this much, that is a cause for concern for those putting money into the company, regardless of how gamers feel. I was fine with Nintendo's E3 and am looking forward to the rest of this year's offerings. That doesn't have any effect on the company's financial standing, though.
They've already announced 2 Pokemon games. One is coming out this year. This one also had a huge presence at E3. This Pokemon game will probably make more money than both combined. Despite this their stock is still dropping so yeah I'm pretty comfortable in saying investors wouldn't give a shit even if both those games were announced right now.Investors definitely don't care about video games like Animal Crossing and Mario Maker that could generate a billion each in revenue.
Definitely not...
This year does have games I want though... Ive had smash and let's go Eevee pre-ordered since their announcements...Best attempts at downplaying any and all success to try to find a way for Nintendo to be failing so you can feel better because this year doesn't have the games you want.
Investors definitely don't care about video games like Animal Crossing and Mario Maker that could generate a billion each in revenue.
Definitely not...
Don't bring it up you'll get bannedI was told by multiple people here that Labo was meeting Nintendo's expactions and was doing well around the world.
Imagine my confusion reading that quote in the OP.
Nintendo are happy with it.I was told by multiple people here that Labo was meeting Nintendo's expactions and was doing well around the world.
Imagine my confusion reading that quote in the OP.
I was told by multiple people here that Labo was meeting Nintendo's expactions and was doing well around the world.
Imagine my confusion reading that quote in the OP.
Does Nintendo even gain anything from all this secrecy? What does it help them really?
You don't have to show everything but actively communicating once in a while about a product people *want* to be excited about (investors and gamers alike) is not something that needs to be pushed back upon.
Their new president needs to shape up on this point. It's a dumb strategy that isn't gaining Nintendo anything and actively hurting their stock price and it's easy to fix.
He's not even a week in his new position.Uh, the new president is like...2, 3 weeks in his new position? How is it his fault?
And they do that, hence Bayonetta, Metroid Prime etc.Does Nintendo even gain anything from all this secrecy? What does it help them really?
You don't have to show everything but actively communicating once in a while about a product people *want* to be excited about (investors and gamers alike) is not something that needs to be pushed back upon.
Their new president needs to shape up on this point. It's a dumb strategy that isn't gaining Nintendo anything and actively hurting their stock price and it's easy to fix.
I was told by multiple people here that Labo was meeting Nintendo's expactions and was doing well around the world.
Imagine my confusion reading that quote in the OP.
Does Nintendo even gain anything from all this secrecy? What does it help them really?
You don't have to show everything but actively communicating once in a while about a product people *want* to be excited about (investors and gamers alike) is not something that needs to be pushed back upon.
Their new president needs to shape up on this point. It's a dumb strategy that isn't gaining Nintendo anything and actively hurting their stock price and it's easy to fix.
Really if Nintendo did a Nintendo Direct tomorrow that consisted of them smashing a Switch on the ground, announced all of their Switch games they had in the pipeline and said they were cancelled and then announced 20 games coming to mobile their stock would skyrocket because all they really care about it mobile.
So I'm not sure why people are trying to look for a deeper meaning for this shit. They don't care about Metroid, Bayonetta, Animal Crossing, Mario Maker, F Zero, or any of that stuff. If Nintendo had something to say on Mario Kart Tour I guarantee nothing would've happened and we wouldn't be talking about this.
Hope not, I don't want to play Nintendo games on other hardware .Man you wouldn't find a better place to discuss the impending doom of Nintendo than this topic.
The one that Nintendo said and not the one that an analyst thinks. Simple.
Nintendo is happy with it. A random investor isn't. What's the contradiction?
Uh, the new president is like...2, 3 weeks in his new position? How is it his fault?
I was told by multiple people here that Labo was meeting Nintendo's expactions and was doing well around the world.
Imagine my confusion reading that quote in the OP.
I mean their secrecy tactic has been working well with the Switch so far and has been a constant since pre reveal.Does Nintendo even gain anything from all this secrecy? What does it help them really?
You don't have to show everything but actively communicating once in a while about a product people *want* to be excited about (investors and gamers alike) is not something that needs to be pushed back upon.
Their new president needs to shape up on this point. It's a dumb strategy that isn't gaining Nintendo anything and actively hurting their stock price and it's easy to fix.
Nintendo Switch games announced or shown over 1 year in advance:
Breath of the Wild: Announced at E3 2013, shown at E3 2014, finally released in March 2017
Super Mario Odyssey: Teased in October 2016 in the Switch preview video, released in October 2017.
Pokémon: First announced at E3 2017, Let's Go is coming out this year. The 2019 entires were already announced this May.
Fire Emblem: Announced at E3 2017, coming out in early 2019.
Yoshi: Shown at E3 2017, coming out in 2019.
Metroid Prime 4: Announced at E3 2017, coming out after 2018.
Bayonetta 3: Announced in December 2017, coming out ???.
Okay, that's a couple of games. Now look at all the games that were announced and released within a year
Furukawa was part of the board of directors of Nintendo for years (just like Kimishima was, which was also NOA president for years) so don't count on a change of strategy when he was an actual part of that strategy and also head of global marketing.
Here his carreer:
- May 2012
- Outside Director of The Pokémon Company (to present)
- July 2015
- General Manager, Corporate Planning Department (to present)
- June 2016
- Director (to present), Managing Executive Officer (to present), Supervisor of Corporate Analysis & Administration Division (to present)
- September 2016
- In charge of Global Marketing Department (to present)
- June 2018
- Representative Director and President
Yeah, I agree. Maybe not related to stock prices, but I'm pretty bummed that most of what the new president said was around mobile, while Kimi made his last comment on the shareholder meeting about new games for the Switch. This is not a good sign for me.You don't seem to understand how organization chart/leadership hierarchy work. The leadership handover isn't down overnight. It's a slow and meticulous process that involve gradual transition/wind-down of vision/direction. There is no doubt that the previous interim president had a lot of input in the launch of switch/botw/mario. This new president seem passive and uncertain, which I think is reflective in the stock price.
I mean, there's a sentiment that the nintendo e3 direct was terrible, more games could have fixed that.They've already announced 2 Pokemon games. One is coming out this year. This one also had a huge presence at E3. This Pokemon game will probably make more money than both combined. Despite this their stock is still dropping so yeah I'm pretty comfortable in saying investors wouldn't give a shit even if both those games were announced right now.
The other games have a thing in common that they were done as a form of damage control.Mario Odyssey was not announced in October 2016. A Mario game was shown as part of the Switch reveal but it was not titled and could have been a mock up.
Like I said about Fire Emblem and Yoshi, they were both delayed. They should have been released by now so those don't really count.
The others I will give you. However, now look at every game that was announced and released within a year. That list is much, much, much longer.
Okay, that's a couple of games. Now look at all the games that were announced and released within a year
I think there were people expecting Labo to be a physical accessory "big thing" like Guitar Hero, Wii Fit or Kinect. So measuring it against those doesn't make it look good, but I'm sure it's doing well and making money.
Thank you daddy.
But I mean I can only blame Nintendo for this situation, didn't they themselves recently compare it to Nintendo dogs and Wii Fit?
Yes I know the quote is about some miraculous resurrection around the holidays and about it having huge longevity.
But I don't see how the general public is suddenly going to care about it, while being caught in the Pokémon and smash hype.
Mario Odyssey was not announced in October 2016. A Mario game was shown as part of the Switch reveal but it was not titled and could have been a mock up.
Like I said about Fire Emblem and Yoshi, they were both delayed. They should have been released by now so those don't really count.
The others I will give you. However, now look at every game that was announced and released within a year. That list is much, much, much longer.